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NightBeast
Location: Darkville
Joined: 07.09.2021

Aug 14 @ 1:23 PM ET
Yes doable but predicated on so many factors & JT is the 1st domino.
- Nighthawk


Yes doable
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 14 @ 1:24 PM ET
And?
- Reubenkincade

That is after year 2 & the time JR&co really will be tested if not sooner.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 14 @ 1:26 PM ET
Hardly trash but middle of the pack for sure.

We were 9th best in goals against last year.


Sure its Demko but we work with what we have and trading Boeser could net us a young defencemen to help out.

Our problem is we need offence and getting rid of Miller and his points will keep us a bubble team. Boeser's and Pearson's offence output are easily replaced.

- NightBeast

Depends on how well Brock bounces back after his off ice concerns. Imo not easily replaceable. Pearson yes.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 14 @ 1:30 PM ET
A very special F U to all of you clowns today!
- VanHockeyGuy

NightBeast
Location: Darkville
Joined: 07.09.2021

Aug 14 @ 1:35 PM ET
Depends on how well Brock bounces back after his off ice concerns. Imo not easily replaceable. Pearson yes.
- Nighthawk


Bottomline what I am trying to say is I would rather have Miller and a million dollar replacement player vs. Boeser and Pearson for 2023-2024 season.

What would you choose between these two options?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 14 @ 1:46 PM ET
Bottomline what I am trying to say is I would rather have Miller and a million dollar replacement player vs. Boeser and Pearson for next year.

What would you choose between theses two options?

- NightBeast

Neither. It doesn't have to one or the other.
NightBeast
Location: Darkville
Joined: 07.09.2021

Aug 14 @ 1:49 PM ET
Neither. It doesn't have to one or the other.
- Marwood


I am talking about this particular scenario not a million other alternatives.


Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 14 @ 2:12 PM ET
Bottomline what I am trying to say is I would rather have Miller and a million dollar replacement player vs. Boeser and Pearson for 2023-2024 season.

What would you choose between these two options?

- NightBeast

I hearya but I don’t see it coming down to that choice. Brock deserves a bounce back year which I’m certain he’ll do & Miller has a lot to prove & will be highly motivated if unsigned. Better to wait til Pearson has 1 year left. Next year buyouts become a real option.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Aug 14 @ 2:22 PM ET
I am talking about this particular scenario not a million other alternatives.
- NightBeast



Yeah that works if BB nets you the young NHL ready RHD.

If it’s about cap then move Garland and Pearson for whatever futures you can get. The new winger forward Russians are key to replacing them in top 6.

This probably happens regardless of JTM and Horvat extensions. It’s always best to keep both top centers and move wingers. [img][/img]
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 14 @ 2:34 PM ET
JR alluded to 6yrs for Miller he said the years 1-3 are fine it’s years 4-6 he is concerned with. He didn’t say Miller would drop off a cliff. The cap being his projection longer term is the meaning.

With rumour being the low 40m range offered sounds like JR’s stance is a 5yr offer say 5/8.5m & a big part of JT saying talks are not close. A ploy only to have it both ways for Canucks with term & $. So where will it go get a deal done…

5/8.5m Miller caves? Not likely
6/8m? Miller says easy no.
6/8.5m? JR’s counter. Miller listens
7/8.5m? Miller counters. JR holds firm
5/8.75m? JR counter. Miller easy no
6/8.75m JR final offer.

Miller says what?
1) 7/8.5m
2) 6/9m
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 14 @ 2:36 PM ET
Yeah that works if BB nets you the young NHL ready RHD.

If it’s about cap then move Garland and Pearson for whatever futures you can get. The new winger forward Russians are key to replacing them in top 6.

This probably happens regardless of JTM and Horvat extensions. It’s always best to keep both top centers and move wingers.

- Quinn's Quest[img][/img]

C depth 3 deep is a wonderful thing.
NightBeast
Location: Darkville
Joined: 07.09.2021

Aug 14 @ 2:42 PM ET
JR alluded to 6yrs for Miller he said the years 1-3 are fine it’s years 4-6 he is concerned with. He didn’t say Miller would drop off a cliff. The cap being his projection longer term is the meaning.

With rumour being the low 40m range offered sounds like JR’s stance is a 5yr offer say 5/8.5m & a big part of JT saying talks are not close. A ploy only to have it both ways for Canucks with term & $. So where will it go get a deal done…

5/8.5m Miller caves? Not likely
6/8m? Miller says easy no.
6/8.5m? JR’s counter. Miller listens
7/8.5m? Miller counters. JR holds firm
5/8.75m? JR counter. Miller easy no
6/8.75m JR final offer.

Miller says what?
1) 7/8.5m
2) 6/9m

- Nighthawk


If I were Miller I take option 1 over 2. What Miller would choose who knows.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Aug 14 @ 3:11 PM ET
Flagged by accident sorry...

5 cups later...


- LordHumungous




6 if it wasn’t for Gary’s boys.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Aug 14 @ 3:13 PM ET
I hearya but I don’t see it coming down to that choice. Brock deserves a bounce back year which I’m certain he’ll do & Miller has a lot to prove & will be highly motivated if unsigned. Better to wait til Pearson has 1 year left. Next year buyouts become a real option.
- Nighthawk


Weren’t you the hardass GM in the spring handing Brock a take it or leave it deal?
theguvna
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 10.24.2019

Aug 14 @ 3:19 PM ET
Thank you Carol
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 14 @ 3:46 PM ET
Weren’t you the hardass GM in the spring handing Brock a take it or leave it deal?
- K-man25

I was offering him a lower AAV & it was also before it was disclosed about his off ice distractions weighing heavily on him.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Aug 14 @ 3:56 PM ET
JT was being honest when it’s at it’s darkest times. Nothing wrong with that. Beats regular vanilla speak. He understands the fans passion & he also has passion to be a part of being the solution. He loves the guys & where it could all lead to.
- Nighthawk


He's being honest about the darkest times being the first shift in the first game of a new contract... ouch.



At least I saw it as a exaggeration...
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Aug 14 @ 3:57 PM ET
10x the population & the big hype machine. College football drives the NFL. We don’t have that either. My 1 critique is our large field just isn’t sexy when it comes to camera angles & that feel you are right close to the action. Other side of the coin is way more action & far less time killed.
- Nighthawk

It’s all about the money like everything else, changes are coming once the gold standard is finalized and off the fake money debt system where pulling money out of thin air comes to an end.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 14 @ 4:27 PM ET
That’s the perception, the cfl game moves much faster, the NFL is more about the money, commercial every 10 minutes etc, it’s presented better because of corporate business, the cfl game is much better if all the skill moved up here along with the money.
- Bettmanhatesus

The CFL is a tear below NCAA.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Aug 14 @ 4:33 PM ET
I’m liking jurmo from what I’ve seen.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 14 @ 4:37 PM ET

6 if it wasn’t for Gary’s boys.

- K-man25

lol that's actually true...

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Aug 14 @ 4:38 PM ET
JR alluded to 6yrs for Miller he said the years 1-3 are fine it’s years 4-6 he is concerned with. He didn’t say Miller would drop off a cliff. The cap being his projection longer term is the meaning.

With rumour being the low 40m range offered sounds like JR’s stance is a 5yr offer say 5/8.5m & a big part of JT saying talks are not close. A ploy only to have it both ways for Canucks with term & $. So where will it go get a deal done…

5/8.5m Miller caves? Not likely
6/8m? Miller says easy no.
6/8.5m? JR’s counter. Miller listens
7/8.5m? Miller counters. JR holds firm
5/8.75m? JR counter. Miller easy no
6/8.75m JR final offer.

Miller says what?
1) 7/8.5m
2) 6/9m

- Nighthawk

Bye
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 14 @ 4:56 PM ET
CLB is going nowhere. Another team the league did not need.
- LordHumungous

One of thr few expansion franchises that seems to have a real fanbase in middle america actually.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 14 @ 5:02 PM ET
A very special F U to all of you clowns today!
- VanHockeyGuy

Happy sunday wienerhead!
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 14 @ 6:42 PM ET
Bottomline what I am trying to say is I would rather have Miller and a million dollar replacement player vs. Boeser and Pearson for 2023-2024 season.

What would you choose between these two options?

- NightBeast


It would be two - million dollar replacement players in your scenario. Plus, I’m not confident that Podkolzin is ready to play in the top six consistently.

Plus plus, I don’t think you get more than a mid round pick for Boeser, and I don’t think you get anything for Pearson unless you are willing to retain 50%, which would be stupid in my opinion.

So, in this scenario, I’d rather trade Miller. Or let him walk at the end of the year for nothing.
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