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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 14 @ 11:00 AM ET
It's good if you are hockey literate. I wouldn't knock Columbus, apparently they are a free agent destination. Gave up nothing for the league's 2nd leading scorer. Paid him less as well.
- Load Management

CLB is going nowhere. Another team the league did not need.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Aug 14 @ 11:04 AM ET
CLB is going nowhere. Another team the league did not need.
- LordHumungous


I felt the same way about the Oilers when they joined from the WHA. Still do.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 14 @ 11:10 AM ET
I felt the same way about the Oilers when they joined from the WHA. Still do.
- Load Management

NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Aug 14 @ 11:10 AM ET
It was just nice to see a good game with a little excitement level. CFL has been so bad for so long with very little marquis talent and it was an enjoyable game.
- LordHumungous


Ya, not knocking the excitement of a game, just saying they're not really going to have sustained success as all the talent flocks to the NFL. I used to watch the CFL growing up all the time with my dad, but it's not even close in product to the NFL
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Aug 14 @ 11:55 AM ET
A very special F U to all of you clowns today!
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Aug 14 @ 12:04 PM ET
Ya, not knocking the excitement of a game, just saying they're not really going to have sustained success as all the talent flocks to the NFL. I used to watch the CFL growing up all the time with my dad, but it's not even close in product to the NFL
- NewYorkNuck

That’s the perception, the cfl game moves much faster, the NFL is more about the money, commercial every 10 minutes etc, it’s presented better because of corporate business, the cfl game is much better if all the skill moved up here along with the money.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Aug 14 @ 12:05 PM ET
Ya, not knocking the excitement of a game, just saying they're not really going to have sustained success as all the talent flocks to the NFL. I used to watch the CFL growing up all the time with my dad, but it's not even close in product to the NFL
- NewYorkNuck

Our BALLS are bigger!
NightBeast
Location: Darkville
Joined: 07.09.2021

Aug 14 @ 12:07 PM ET
The problem with keeping Miller is that even if you manage to resign him, Bo is gone because you are not going to have the cap to sign both. And the year after next you have to resign both EP40 and Podz and even though by then Myers contract is up is not going to be enough to be able to keep them as well. Miller rightly wants a 7-8 year deal and he's only going to be viable as a 1st line player for 2 maybe 3 more years depending on injuries. This is why several of us want him traded, not that he's a horrible player, but because keeping him means that other forwards who are much younger and could end up much better than Miller will have to be moved to make room for him to be on this roster.
- DariusKnight



Why not move Boeser and Pearson and keep Miller and Bo. If we want to stay in mediocrity we let Miller leave and keep those two.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 14 @ 12:11 PM ET
Why not move Boeser and Pearson and keep Miller and Bo. If we want to stay in mediocrity we let Miller leave and keep those two.
- NightBeast

It's a math thing.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Aug 14 @ 12:19 PM ET
That’s the perception, the cfl game moves much faster, the NFL is more about the money, commercial every 10 minutes etc, it’s presented better because of corporate business, the cfl game is much better if all the skill moved up here along with the money.
- Bettmanhatesus


I'm sure the SEL would be better if all the NHL players and the corporate money moved over there. What a stupid comment
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 14 @ 12:24 PM ET
He described Van fans as unreasonable and quick to turn on players no matter which way you spin it... Burning their jerseys after not scoring on the first shift.... not exactly a compliment.

What is the funniest about it is although he's exaggerating about it... it's also true that fans here are easy to turn or lash out...

- boonerbuck

JT was being honest when it’s at it’s darkest times. Nothing wrong with that. Beats regular vanilla speak. He understands the fans passion & he also has passion to be a part of being the solution. He loves the guys & where it could all lead to.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 14 @ 12:25 PM ET
I feel very good about choosing this week to talk up Rourke and the Lions. What a game!
- Carol Schram

Why not 👍👍
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 14 @ 12:29 PM ET
The problem with keeping Miller is that even if you manage to resign him, Bo is gone because you are not going to have the cap to sign both. And the year after next you have to resign both EP40 and Podz and even though by then Myers contract is up is not going to be enough to be able to keep them as well. Miller rightly wants a 7-8 year deal and he's only going to be viable as a 1st line player for 2 maybe 3 more years depending on injuries. This is why several of us want him traded, not that he's a horrible player, but because keeping him means that other forwards who are much younger and could end up much better than Miller will have to be moved to make room for him to be on this roster.
- DariusKnight

All possible bit that’s part of the negotiations & his disclosure what the new mgmt faces. You gotta bet cap structure is part of the talks. Has to be given his stature & importance. Cones down to the give & take process. If he takes a fair team offer it’s cuz all of what you mention can also be done. Those other players will also be in the fold on negotiations if they buy in to what Miller may do.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 14 @ 12:34 PM ET
Ya, not knocking the excitement of a game, just saying they're not really going to have sustained success as all the talent flocks to the NFL. I used to watch the CFL growing up all the time with my dad, but it's not even close in product to the NFL
- NewYorkNuck

10x the population & the big hype machine. College football drives the NFL. We don’t have that either. My 1 critique is our large field just isn’t sexy when it comes to camera angles & that feel you are right close to the action. Other side of the coin is way more action & far less time killed.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 14 @ 12:35 PM ET
Our BALLS are bigger!
- K-man25

😂👍

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2E064kb3UnU
NightBeast
Location: Darkville
Joined: 07.09.2021

Aug 14 @ 12:43 PM ET
It's a math thing.
- Marwood


Bo needs to 2 mill more from current salary
Miller needs 3.5 more from current salary
Pearson replacement needs 2 mill salary
Boeser replacement is Pod who makes 1 million.
Pods replacement is a another 1 million dollar player

We need 8.5 million to do this.

Boeser salary is 6.65M and Pearson is 3.25M = 9.9M

Seems like the math works out for this scenario.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 14 @ 12:53 PM ET
Bo needs to 2 mill more from current salary
Miller needs 3.5 more from current salary
Pearson replacement needs 2 mill salary
Boeser replacement is Pod who makes 1 million.
Pods replacement is a another 1 million dollar player

We need 8.5 million to do this.

Boeser salary is 6.65M and Pearson is 3.25M = 9.9M

Seems like the math works out for this scenario.

- NightBeast

Yes & no sorta.

I can see Bo coming in cheaper than 7.5m. Comes down to how much of a shave JT will take knowing how mgmt will structure the cap on other upcoming signings. Expect bridges for RFA’s other than Petey. Bridges are not ideal all the time being they get paid big later. It’s all a part of the stagnant cap & past contracts from JB. So it’s a juggle til some contracts expire eg Myers & Pearson. That 1 extra year is the big hurdle.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 14 @ 12:55 PM ET
Holtby 1.5m
Jake 900k

Both cone off the books after this season.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 14 @ 12:55 PM ET
Holtby 1.5m
Jake 900k

Both come off the books after this season.
NightBeast
Location: Darkville
Joined: 07.09.2021

Aug 14 @ 12:59 PM ET
Yes & no sorta.

I can see Bo coming in cheaper than 7.5m. Comes down to how much of a shave JT will take knowing how mgmt will structure the cap on other upcoming signings. Expect bridges for RFA’s other than Petey. Bridges are not ideal all the time being they get paid big later. It’s all a part of the stagnant cap & past contracts from JB. So it’s a juggle til some contracts expire eg Myers & Pearson. That 1 extra year is the big hurdle.

- Nighthawk


Bottom line its doable it's all in how management moves the money around.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 14 @ 1:04 PM ET
Bo needs to 2 mill more from current salary
Miller needs 3.5 more from current salary
Pearson replacement needs 2 mill salary
Boeser replacement is Pod who makes 1 million.
Pods replacement is a another 1 million dollar player

We need 8.5 million to do this.

Boeser salary is 6.65M and Pearson is 3.25M = 9.9M

Seems like the math works out for this scenario.

- NightBeast

So, the defense will continue to be trash and a long term Demko injury would end any hope of being a wildcard bubble team. Good times!
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 14 @ 1:09 PM ET
Holtby 1.5m
Jake 900k

Both cone off the books after this season.

- Nighthawk


And?
NightBeast
Location: Darkville
Joined: 07.09.2021

Aug 14 @ 1:15 PM ET
So, the defense will continue to be trash and a long term Demko injury would end any hope of being a wildcard bubble team. Good times!
- Marwood


Hardly trash but middle of the pack for sure.

We were 9th best in goals against last year.


Sure its Demko but we work with what we have and trading Boeser could net us a young defencemen to help out.

Our problem is we need offence and getting rid of Miller and his points will keep us a bubble team. Boeser's and Pearson's offence output are easily replaced.

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 14 @ 1:22 PM ET
I felt the same way about the Oilers when they joined from the WHA. Still do.
- Load Management

Flagged by accident sorry...

5 cups later...

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 14 @ 1:22 PM ET
Bottom line its doable it's all in how management moves the money around.
- NightBeast

Yes doable but predicated on so many factors & JT is the 1st domino.
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