DeBrincat would be an excellent trade chip for a guy like Severson or maybe some other good RD that might be available.
- Whatisavailable

You have still made no real argument as to why you don't like Debrincat other than "Ew, don't like little guy".

Again, proven 40 goal scorer if paired with a high caliber setup man (Kane). Seeing as he will most likely be paired with Stutzle I must ask and really want to know your answer:

Do you not think Stutzle will develop to be an elite playmaker?

If you do not think he will become elite the core issue has nothing to do with Debrincat and the players the Sens would have selected with the picks they traded for him would not solve any problems with this team either because they are too far away in development if they would become NHL regulars.

Do you suggest we trade Stutzle if you do not have faith in him to setup Debrincat for 40 goals a year?

You seem to want the Sens to be in the gutter forever and not put an end to the rebuild.
You suggest tanking another 1-2 seasons but what if Chabot and Tkachuk publically demand a trade because they are tired as hell of being bottom feeders.
Even if we did tank for another 1-2 years to draft even more prospects it would take another 1-2 years to develop so you suggest 4 more years of bottom feeding.

Try telling that to Chabot, Tkachuk, Norris, Stutzle and Batherson and see how fast they demand a ticket to a more serious organization.

In all seriousness I really want to know your answer on if you think Stutzle will become a great playmaker.

If yes then Debrincat is a proven great add for his wing.

If no then the rebuild around Stutzle is already a failure and we should trade him or restart the rebuild again.

Maybe Calgary would do DeBrincat for Tanev. Na I don't think so. Arizona might take DeBrincat and Zaitsev and somebody like Sokolov and a 2024 second for Chychrun.

Maybe Calgary would do DeBrincat for Tanev. Na I don't think so. Arizona might take DeBrincat and Zaitsev and somebody like Sokolov and a 2024 second for Chychrun.
- Whatisavailable

Still waiting on a legit answer, toll.

I've noticed that a couple of the guys over at TSN 1200 Sens radio have started to recognize the problem with the DeBrincat acquisition and how he can only be here for the very short term.

I've noticed that a couple of the guys over at TSN 1200 Sens radio have started to recognize the problem with the DeBrincat acquisition and how he can only be here for the very short term.
- Whatisavailable

I get what your saying but 40 goal scorers don't come by often. Sens are better off with him for AT LEAST this year. They can revisit contract talks later this year but hopefully he has a lot of fun with Stutzle. The two have the potential to be the best combo (offensively) since Spezza and Heatley

DeBrincat would be an excellent trade chip for a guy like Severson or maybe some other good RD that might be available.
- Whatisavailable

Man. The hate you have for this player is silly.

You have still made no real argument as to why you don't like Debrincat other than "Ew, don't like little guy".

Again, proven 40 goal scorer if paired with a high caliber setup man (Kane). Seeing as he will most likely be paired with Stutzle I must ask and really want to know your answer:

Do you not think Stutzle will develop to be an elite playmaker?

If you do not think he will become elite the core issue has nothing to do with Debrincat and the players the Sens would have selected with the picks they traded for him would not solve any problems with this team either because they are too far away in development if they would become NHL regulars.

Do you suggest we trade Stutzle if you do not have faith in him to setup Debrincat for 40 goals a year?

You seem to want the Sens to be in the gutter forever and not put an end to the rebuild.
You suggest tanking another 1-2 seasons but what if Chabot and Tkachuk publically demand a trade because they are tired as hell of being bottom feeders.
Even if we did tank for another 1-2 years to draft even more prospects it would take another 1-2 years to develop so you suggest 4 more years of bottom feeding.

Try telling that to Chabot, Tkachuk, Norris, Stutzle and Batherson and see how fast they demand a ticket to a more serious organization.

In all seriousness I really want to know your answer on if you think Stutzle will become a great playmaker.

If yes then Debrincat is a proven great add for his wing.

If no then the rebuild around Stutzle is already a failure and we should trade him or restart the rebuild again.
- TDBSenatoR

Ottawa also has potential to be a lot better than Chicago was with Debrinicat, they only made the playoffs once.

They'll have what looks like two very good lines, that will help Debrinicat get some better matchups.

I get what your saying but 40 goal scorers don't come by often. Sens are better off with him for AT LEAST this year. They can revisit contract talks later this year but hopefully he has a lot of fun with Stutzle. The two have the potential to be the best combo (offensively) since Spezza and Heatley
- AlfieisKing

DeBrincat's qualifying offer begins at 9 million. The Sens will have to sign at least Stutzle, Zub, Pinto and Sanderson. Formenton isn't signed nor is Brannstrom. That's not even counting this top 4D everybody wants so badly and which was needed a hell of a lot more than DeBrincat. Even if you get rid of Zaitsev there's not enough to go around unless you think you don't need an NHL caliber bottom six and D core which some people apparently don't think you need.

If you're a serious Cup contender at the deadline do you see DeBrincat as that top forward who will get you through 4 rounds of old fashioned hard hitting hockey and who afterwards you will need to pay 9 million for at least one more year?
If DeBrincat stays this year into the summer which teams will have the 9 million to take on his contract; and if you can't find any which of your top guys are you willing to part with?

The timing of DeBrincat's contract and the expected rise in the league salary cap is what's majorly wrong with the acquisition.

DeBrincat's qualifying offer begins at 9 million. The Sens will have to sign at least Stutzle, Zub, Pinto and Sanderson. Formenton isn't signed nor is Brannstrom. That's not even counting this top 4D everybody wants so badly and which was needed a hell of a lot more than DeBrincat. Even if you get rid of Zaitsev there's not enough to go around unless you think you don't need an NHL caliber bottom six and D core which some people apparently don't think you need.

If you're a serious Cup contender at the deadline do you see DeBrincat as that top forward who will get you through 4 rounds of old fashioned hard hitting hockey and who afterwards you will need to pay 9 million for at least one more year?
If DeBrincat stays this year into the summer which teams will have the 9 million to take on his contract; and if you can't find any which of your top guys are you willing to part with?

The timing of DeBrincat's contract and the expected rise in the league salary cap is what's majorly wrong with the acquisition.
- Whatisavailable

Debrincat can choose to sign for less than 9 even if Ottawa has to offer 9. If Debrincat does not want to stay long term he can be moved for equal value to what he was sold for easily.

Consider the next two years less of a tryout for Debrincat and more of a tryout for Stutzle. So far the main reason given for Stutzle's somewhat less than expected production (despite being a rookie) is the lack of a good winger. Well now he has one for the next two years. If Debrincat costs too much well we can get a cheaper winger int he future but now we know Stutzle can runt he ling for sure by that point.

Still waiting on a legit answer, toll.
- TDBSenatoR

He will not be forthcoming with anything.

Look, this fellow is obviously a dinosaur when it comes to hockey. The fellow has exhibited time and time again that his knowledge of the game stopped accumulating in the 90s. Hell, the fellow's views on the Team Canada scandal should be enough evidence of the saurian nature of this fellow.

Debrincat can choose to sign for less than 9 even if Ottawa has to offer 9. If Debrincat does not want to stay long term he can be moved for equal value to what he was sold for easily.
- TDBSenatoR

Free agents are being put on notice that massive deals with term are not handed out like candy any more. Will Matthews sign a silly deal? Probably. Not many other players falling outside of the truly elite are going to be able to command top dollar and term any more. Agents will be making sure their clients consider how the future is shaping up for contracts.

DeBrincat's qualifying offer begins at 9 million. The Sens will have to sign at least Stutzle, Zub, Pinto and Sanderson. Formenton isn't signed nor is Brannstrom. That's not even counting this top 4D everybody wants so badly and which was needed a hell of a lot more than DeBrincat. Even if you get rid of Zaitsev there's not enough to go around unless you think you don't need an NHL caliber bottom six and D core which some people apparently don't think you need.
- Whatisavailable

Why you just keep jumping off the same cliff is beyond me. If DeBrincat doesn't fit in, then you move on in 2yrs or less. If he plays well enough to earn $9M/yr (i.e. scores 40G beside Stutzle), then he'll be worth the cap space. From there, all they have to do is use bridge deals to effectively delay the need to give massive contract extensions to Stutzle/Sanderson until after Giroux's deal expires and they stop having to pay $5M/yr in buyout costs. That's how you fit the major contracts together, even without a cap increase. Sure, it could mean that guys like Formenton, Pinto, Brannstrom & Joseph may need to be moved when they start expecting bigger contracts, just like Brown & Paul had to be moved. But that's why they invested in picks like Greig, Ostapchuk, and Boucher as supporting forwards, plus Thomson, Bernard-Docker, Kleven, Nordberg, and Roger as blueline depth. But you let the prospect depth do its job to maintain the quality of the supporting roster... as opposed slashing your high-end talent before they've even had a chance to play a game together, because you're pissing your pants about what some of the players might or might not want in terms of $$$ in 2 years' time.

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