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LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 29 @ 3:55 PM ET
David Pagnotta says the #Blackhawks are officially engaged in trade talks regarding forward Patrick Kane
- BMoreHawks



David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
Hearing the Blackhawks have been engaged in trade discussions with teams about Patrick Kane. Dallas among the teams most recently interested.

Only way that works for Dallas if the Hawks take back Benn or Seguin. Can't see that happening unless the draft picks and prospects are overwhelming
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Jul 29 @ 4:02 PM ET
What on earth are you talking about?

If anything I think he'd be thrilled to have a generational talent go to one of the leagues biggest markets for once.

- BINGO!

He's a moron and a conspiracy theorist. He thinks the league is out to get the Hawks
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Jul 29 @ 4:04 PM ET
David Pagnotta says the #Blackhawks are officially engaged in trade talks regarding forward Patrick Kane
- BMoreHawks


Being shot down pretty quickly by "sources" of the local media.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 29 @ 4:10 PM ET
Being shot down pretty quickly by "sources" of the local media.
- pdx2ord


Shucks.


Martin Necas, Jake Gardiner, Ethan Bear, 1st in 2023.

Remove Gardiner and add Ryan Suzuki and a 2nd in 2023 if you'll retain salary.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 29 @ 4:10 PM ET
Being shot down pretty quickly by "sources" of the local media.
- pdx2ord



Mark Lazerus
@MarkLazerus
Per a source, the Blackhawks have had NO trade discussions with any teams involving Patrick Kane. I'm sure plenty of teams are interested and sniffing around, but nothing is happening.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 29 @ 4:15 PM ET
David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
Hearing the Blackhawks have been engaged in trade discussions with teams about Patrick Kane. Dallas among the teams most recently interested.

Only way that works for Dallas if the Hawks take back Benn or Seguin. Can't see that happening unless the draft picks and prospects are overwhelming

- LAHawk


If true, the bolded above is key. The more teams the more of a market.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jul 29 @ 4:16 PM ET
He's a moron and a conspiracy theorist. He thinks the league is out to get the Hawks
- GPHawksfan


And you think Pittsburgh got lucky in the Crosby draft? Just watch out who you call a moron, especially on the internet.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 29 @ 4:20 PM ET
Mark Lazerus
@MarkLazerus
Per a source, the Blackhawks have had NO trade discussions with any teams involving Patrick Kane. I'm sure plenty of teams are interested and sniffing around, but nothing is happening.

- LAHawk


If teams are sniffing around and expressing interest, it could be teams are having conversations with Brisson and/or KD. Some groundwork may be being laid.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Jul 29 @ 4:22 PM ET
He's a moron and a conspiracy theorist. He thinks the league is out to get the Hawks
- GPHawksfan



I don't wear a tin foil hat, but it's not unprecedented. And he might be out there, but not quite as far as you think.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 29 @ 4:22 PM ET
If teams are sniffing around and expressing interest, it could be teams are having conversations with Brisson and/or KD. Some groundwork may be being laid.
- boilermaker100


I think Pagnotta just tweeted it so the talking heads have something other than the Hockey Canada scandal to talk about.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 29 @ 4:34 PM ET
I think we are all going to get a stinker surprise here with the Hawks playing better due to a defensive scheme that suits the skill level of their players better and a fiery coach that will get more out of them.

A healed Murphy, better healed McCabe, Jones with less weight on his shoulders and possibly break through of any of Vlasic, Mitchell, Glavas or Regula with a different system may make a significant difference on the backend.

Without the Cat, scoring will be difficult but I think a Domi and Athanasiou will compete harder on a show-me-contract basis and produce more than Dach and Kubalik, given better secondary scoring.

That said, if no trades are made I think we'll be in the 10-12 pick at next year's draft. To ensure a better pick in 2023, the Hawks will have to trade as many of Kane, Toews and Murphy next season.

- Popsghostly

You're basing this on how well Montreal did last year?
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 29 @ 4:36 PM ET
Maybe. But without Toews and Kane they are a middle of the pack team and those “good”prospects maybe are rushed, don’t develop as quickly, or have to be slotted higher in the lineup than their skill level justifies. Not saying we did not have the good prospects. But having superstars in the lineup helps good prospects a lot.
- Ztra

Hossa.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jul 29 @ 5:10 PM ET
If true, the bolded above is key. The more teams the more of a market.

- boilermaker100

Unless an unbelievable offer comes before the season starts fir Kane or towes both are traded at ir near tdl where more contracts are prorated. Also could see Dalles inquiring about Seth Jones since they were not able to keep kilngberg.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 29 @ 5:20 PM ET
Unless an unbelievable offer comes before the season starts fir Kane or towes both are traded at ir near tdl where more contracts are prorated. Also could see Dalles inquiring about Seth Jones since they were not able to keep kilngberg.
- Scott1977


They have to sign Ottenger and Robertson and they will be at or above the cap. Again the Hawks would have to take back either Benn or Seguin, KD isn't going to do that.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jul 29 @ 5:27 PM ET
They have to sign Ottenger and Robertson and they will be at or above the cap. Again the Hawks would have to take back either Benn or Seguin, KD isn't going to do that.
- LAHawk

Agree just mentioning Jones because Dallas was going after him until bowman decided to acquire Jones. Plus imo they don't have a deep prospect pool or cap space for Kane either to make a deal. I m sure teams are calling maybe to see what the asking price would be.
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Jul 29 @ 5:37 PM ET
And you think Pittsburgh got lucky in the Crosby draft? Just watch out who you call a moron, especially on the internet.
- powerenforcer

What are you gonna do? Tell me you're gonna beat me up like Steve Rain? LMFAO. Go ahead
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Jul 29 @ 5:38 PM ET
I don't wear a tin foil hat, but it's not unprecedented. And he might be out there, but not quite as far as you think.
- 6628

Yeah...ok
Hawk4life
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: St Louis, MO
Joined: 05.19.2014

Jul 29 @ 5:48 PM ET
That's because edmonton sucks at building teams. We can build a team as quickly as it takes to build. It could take 2 years or 7 years. Stop thinking about the future and just enjoy the moment. Are you going jump on an elevator like Bill an Ted's Excellent Adventures and age yourself more and miss out on 2 or 7 years because you want the Hawks to be relevant again? Get a clue! Relax and live in the moment!
Hawk4life
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: St Louis, MO
Joined: 05.19.2014

Jul 29 @ 5:51 PM ET
IF ANYONE THINKS THEY CAN REBUILD THIS TEAM THROUGH THE DRAFT ONLY 5 YEARS, THERE CRAZY, CONNOR MCDAVID WAS DRAFTED 7 YEARS AGO AFTER 3 FAILED ATTEMPTS AND GETTING # 1 PICK, AND THEY ARE STILL SHORT PIECES, IN COLORADO LANDESHOG , WAS DRAFTED 11 YEARS AGO , MACKINNON WAS DRAFT 9 YEARS AGO AND FINALLY MAKAR WAS DRAFTED 5 YEARS AGO, AND REMEMBER THE LOTTERY RULE CHANGE NOW YOU CAN ONLY GET SO MANY NUMBER 1 PICKS IN A TIME SPAM. THE HAWKS WILL BE LOOKING AT A 10 -12 YEAR REBUILD
- Ging72


That's because edmonton sucks at building teams. We can build a team as quickly as it takes to build. It could take 2 years or 7 years. Stop thinking about the future and just enjoy the moment. Are you going jump on an elevator like Bill an Ted's Excellent Adventures and age yourself more and miss out on 2 or 7 years because you want the Hawks to be relevant again? Get a clue! Relax and live in the moment!
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jul 29 @ 6:35 PM ET
What are you gonna do? Tell me you're gonna beat me up like Steve Rain? LMFAO. Go ahead
- GPHawksfan


Why don't you grow up a little bit?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 29 @ 7:09 PM ET
Why don't you grow up a little bit?
- powerenforcer


That's like asking Trump not to lie.

Ain't gonna happen
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 29 @ 7:22 PM ET
David Pagnotta says the #Blackhawks are officially engaged in trade talks regarding forward Patrick Kane
- BMoreHawks


Yea if they don't have a blue dot on twitter don't believe it.
67hawks
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jul 29 @ 9:02 PM ET
That's like asking Trump not to lie.

Ain't gonna happen

- BetweenTheDots



The dialogue above had nothing to do with politics.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 29 @ 9:13 PM ET
The dialogue above had nothing to do with politics.
- 67hawks


Just pulling a PE, or have you not been paying attention
35Tony0
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Springfield, IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Jul 29 @ 10:12 PM ET
As for me and my household, we will only talk Blackhawk hockey here. Full stop.
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