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mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 25 @ 3:25 PM ET
Your dad the prior GM hindered the development of both Ivan and Sanheim, some may even say ruined, by throwing them to the wolves. At least Chuck did 1 right thing by recognizing this and acquired 2 good vets to help them along.

It was a good deal and funny you wont admit as much.

Draft and develop baby. Though lets keep all the good players and try to compete. That is a great strategy.

- hello it's me 2050


At least you are consistent.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 25 @ 3:28 PM ET
At least you are consistent.
- mickel25

and correct. Now go take a walk
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 25 @ 3:33 PM ET
and correct. Now go take a walk
- hello it's me 2050


You got it guy.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 25 @ 3:33 PM ET
Your dad the prior GM hindered the development of both Ivan and Sanheim, some may even say ruined, by throwing them to the wolves. At least Chuck did 1 right thing by recognizing this and acquired 2 good vets to help them along.

It was a good deal and funny you wont admit as much.

Draft and develop baby. Though lets keep all the good players and try to compete. That is a great strategy.

- hello it's me 2050

Provy was certainly thrown to the wolves , Sanheim was sheltered a bit
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 25 @ 3:36 PM ET
Provy was certainly thrown to the wolves , Sanheim was sheltered a bit
- ClaudeFather

Neither had that solid/good vet to lean on to help them along. Who was Sanheims partners when he first arrived? I forget though it was not good.

Though some may argue Andy Mac was top pair legit dman.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 25 @ 3:36 PM ET
You got it guy.
- mickel25

word to your mother
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 25 @ 3:38 PM ET
word to your mother
- hello it's me 2050


Terrific
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 25 @ 3:41 PM ET
Provy was certainly thrown to the wolves , Sanheim was sheltered a bit
- ClaudeFather


Provorov definitely was. Provorov had his best years though when Hextall was the GM. Including leading all defenseman in goals one season. Sanheim had his ups and downs but Hakstol did a nice job bringing him along. The one mistake was never giving Sanheim an opportunity on the PP and over relying on Provorov who was never really good on the PP.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 25 @ 3:47 PM ET
Terrific
- mickel25



You have to consider what kind of person brings up a posters Mother or Father with no concern for what an individual is dealing with. A poster's parent could be sick or have recently passed away or some other issue. It's really a derelict thing to post and from a source that honestly has no sense whatsoever. The best thing to do is to ignore it and it will eventually go away
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 25 @ 4:00 PM ET
Eh, the resident geniuses would have another player to discuss.
- Scoob


How many "resident geniuses" would have given a 4 year deal with a no trade clause to Nic Deslauriers?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 25 @ 4:00 PM ET
Provorov was very good in 17-18 with Ghost and in 19-20 with Niskanen. I don't think his level of play is GM-dependent.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 25 @ 4:06 PM ET
How many "resident geniuses" would have given a 4 year deal with a no trade clause to Nic Deslauriers?
- PLindbergh31


I would like to think none would, but I wouldn't bet on it.
therabbi
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 10.14.2020

Jul 25 @ 4:54 PM ET
Maybe it's silly to say the Weber deal would have been great, given what we know of Shea's health and the term. But damn it I loved it and wish a trade would have happened. How often can you build around one of the top four or five #1 dmen in the league, one who is a 10 defensively and offensively? I think we might have won a cup with him. And so he'd be on LTIR now, so what.
So yeah, no question I wish a trade had happened, or no match on the offer sheet.
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Jul 25 @ 5:15 PM ET
Is today July 25, 2022 and Chuck Fletcher is the worst GM in the world?
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 25 @ 5:23 PM ET
I would like to think none would, but I wouldn't bet on it.
- Scoob


I think no also, but for entertainment purposes, I am ready for popcorn if someone says yes. They will be baled and fired into the sun.

corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 25 @ 6:01 PM ET
Is today July 25, 2022 and Chuck Fletcher is the worst GM in the world?
- GPHawksfan


It is and thank you for taking up the mantle
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 25 @ 6:10 PM ET
Maybe it's silly to say the Weber deal would have been great, given what we know of Shea's health and the term. But damn it I loved it and wish a trade would have happened. How often can you build around one of the top four or five #1 dmen in the league, one who is a 10 defensively and offensively? I think we might have won a cup with him. And so he'd be on LTIR now, so what.
So yeah, no question I wish a trade had happened, or no match on the offer sheet.

- therabbi



We actually don't even know that. Circumstances would have changed and maybe he doesn't get hurt. Ya never know. Either way, I still remember the day like it was yesterday and I was so excited because there was NO WAY Nashville could match that offer right?



hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Jul 25 @ 6:21 PM ET
NHL power rankings out and Flyers are 31 only Chicago worse. Never thought I would see the day the Flyers would be such a bottom feeder. That's hard to do while maxing out your cap space
GPerogie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hightstown, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jul 25 @ 6:36 PM ET
NHL power rankings out and Flyers are 31 only Chicago worse. Never thought I would see the day the Flyers would be such a bottom feeder. That's hard to do while maxing out your cap space
- hfc355



Still got the best writer though......lets start the rebuild there. Keep Bill and start thinning out the rest
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jul 25 @ 6:49 PM ET
We actually don't even know that. Circumstances would have changed and maybe he doesn't get hurt. Ya never know. Either way, I still remember the day like it was yesterday and I was so excited because there was NO WAY Nashville could match that offer right?
- MBFlyerfan


He might not have lasted a week with the flyers medical/training staff.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jul 25 @ 6:50 PM ET
Interesting on NHL Radio on Sirius/XM. The PowerPlay finally got to Chuck Fletcher and the Flyers. A big fat “F” and they had nothing good to say. Just pointed out the many contradictions and said it’s obvious the people in charge has no plan and Flyers seem to be satisfied competing for 11th place. These are good hockey commentators. Seems like they read our posts… oh wait, the Flyers think the fans are stupid.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jul 25 @ 7:06 PM ET
Interesting on NHL Radio on Sirius/XM. The PowerPlay finally got to Chuck Fletcher and the Flyers. A big fat “F” and they had nothing good to say. Just pointed out the many contradictions and said it’s obvious the people in charge has no plan and Flyers seem to be satisfied competing for 11th place. These are good hockey commentators. Seems like they read our posts… oh wait, the Flyers think the fans are stupid.
- mikeyo27


https://twitter.com/nhlfl...tatus/1485733956272197637

Well they did release a Gritty mobile app this year. Are you not entertained?

It does seem at times they care more about marketing Gritty than fielding a competent team.
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jul 25 @ 7:08 PM ET
How many "resident geniuses" would have given a 4 year deal with a no trade clause to Nic Deslauriers?
- PLindbergh31

So intead of trading him anywhere for a 4th rounder the NTC limits to 10 teams probably lowering the return to a 5th rounder
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 25 @ 7:37 PM ET
pound for pound the flyers arent even the most disappointing franchise in this city.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 25 @ 7:48 PM ET
You have to consider what kind of person brings up a posters Mother or Father with no concern for what an individual is dealing with. A poster's parent could be sick or have recently passed away or some other issue. It's really a derelict thing to post and from a source that honestly has no sense whatsoever. The best thing to do is to ignore it and it will eventually go away
- MJL


The "derelict" poster, or the parent?
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