The Rutta thing doesn't even make sense me if he plays well. Ruhwedel was outstanding in his role. There was no need to bump him out of the lineup.

I'm honestly not as down on McGinn as others year. I think he's a smart player, good PKer and gets on the board enough for his role. Yeah, he's over paid a tad. He's closer to a $2M player than a $3M player, but he at least makes sense in the lineup. Rutta doesn't even if he's good.

EDIT:
Regardless if it's Smith or POJ in the 3rd role, Ruhwedel is almost the perfect type of dman for a young player to play with getting their feet wet.
- Rinosaur

I agree with rutta. Ruwh is Perfect in his spot for the perfect price. Just seems stupid. All I can do is hope rutta plays way above his head and we can trade home come TDL.

I don’t mind mcginn at all. I just would rather allocate his (and rutta) cap elsewhere to bolster the 3rd line. 5m should accommodate a pretty decent player unless he turns into a zucker 😂

I agree with rutta. Ruwh is Perfect in his spot for the perfect price. Just seems stupid. All I can do is hope rutta plays way above his head and we can trade home come TDL.

I don’t mind mcginn at all. I just would rather allocate his (and rutta) cap elsewhere to bolster the 3rd line. 5m should accommodate a pretty decent player unless he turns into a zucker 😂
- 10inchTerror

Agreed. I'm fine if the Pens move him out and replace his services with an upgrade.

Agreed. I'm fine if the Pens move him out and replace his services with an upgrade.
- Rinosaur

I think hex has done a decent job with the cap space while resigning everyone. For a team in a full rebuild I think they could of ate at least 1.25m of Petrys salary to balance the trade a bit. Next year they should be setup pretty good. Let’s pretend Poj/smith step up as a serviceable 2LD the defence is set. Jarry will get a raise. Zucker comes off the books. Rutta and mcginn could be flipped for 5.5m as long as they play well. I’d say that’s a pretty good situation.

I just wish Guentz signed an 8 year because he will be getting his raise soon.

Edit- unless Kap screws this up. So help me god he better be on a 1 year deal.

Also, is it normal for a GM to call a player on a team and talk to him about someone else on that team he might trade for?

I know The Mtl GM was Letangs agent but that still seems odd to openly say you called Letang about MM

Also, is it normal for a GM to call a player on a team and talk to him about someone else on that team he might trade for?

I know The Mtl GM was Letangs agent but that still seems odd to openly say you called Letang about MM
- 10inchTerror

Strange but did MM have trade protection? They would have needed to clear it with him first. He is from that area so likely it was a move he was happy with.

Strange but did MM have trade protection? They would have needed to clear it with him first. He is from that area so likely it was a move he was happy with.
- MacPatty

He had an 8 team no trade list. I just think the whole call to Letang is odd. I guess not too many former agents turn gm though to call their former employees.

Seems like they still will dump another contract like Zucker, Dumo, or Pettersen.

The odd advantage of dumping Pettersen is it gives us some flexibility with cap NEXT year when Dump and Zucker are off the books. I mean, we have to backfill then but Hextall gets to choose them. Helps him with his refresh (if that's his end goal).

THEN? The Fenway Group can fire Hextall, let another GM join, and have to watch that GM do the exact same thing (get rid of all the former GM's players).

Seems like they still will dump another contract like Zucker, Dumo, or Pettersen.

The odd advantage of dumping Pettersen is it gives us some flexibility with cap NEXT year when Dump and Zucker are off the books. I mean, we have to backfill then but Hextall gets to choose them. Helps him with his refresh (if that's his end goal).

THEN? The Fenway Group can fire Hextall, let another GM join, and have to watch that GM do the exact same thing (get rid of all the former GM's players).
- coohill

Need space to sign Kap at 6/6

I agree with rutta. Ruwh is Perfect in his spot for the perfect price. Just seems stupid. All I can do is hope rutta plays way above his head and we can trade home come TDL.

I don’t mind mcginn at all. I just would rather allocate his (and rutta) cap elsewhere to bolster the 3rd line. 5m should accommodate a pretty decent player unless he turns into a zucker 😂
- 10inchTerror

If he's playing way above his head why would we move him at the deadline if we're in the playoff mix?

Seems like they still will dump another contract like Zucker, Dumo, or Pettersen.

The odd advantage of dumping Pettersen is it gives us some flexibility with cap NEXT year when Dump and Zucker are off the books. I mean, we have to backfill then but Hextall gets to choose them. Helps him with his refresh (if that's his end goal).

THEN? The Fenway Group can fire Hextall, let another GM join, and have to watch that GM do the exact same thing (get rid of all the former GM's players).
- coohill

Considering the fact that the Pens have 5 of their 6 top forwards signed long term, and 2-3 of their top 4 d... Should they consider signing Jarry long term... Maybe 3-4 years? (Capfriendly list the with 23-24 million in cap space for 2023-24)

Need space to sign Kap at 6/6
- Blackstrom2

Lol

Now we laugh, but doubt we will like the contract when we see the numbers.

Need space to sign Kap at 6/6
- Blackstrom2

8 x 6

Has anyone been watching that 3 Ice League?

Need space to sign Kap at 6/6
- Blackstrom2

THIS!

He's also a poop hockey player. I'd rather sign Boyle than Archibald.
- Rinosaur

Yeah the thing is with being able to go from wing to center Boyle will end up playing 76 games because someone will always be hurt.

If he's playing way above his head why would we move him at the deadline if we're in the playoff mix?
- 668710

Because if he’s half competent after being on those Tampa teams playing with Hedman he should be able to handle a 3rd pair role. Doesn’t mean he’s capable of moving up, or that there’s a spot for him unless Injury. But if he can crush is 8 minutes a night maybe someone else will want him and we have cap space and ruwh can go back to the role he filled just fine for basically lg minimum and we can upgrade other positions.

Because if he’s half competent after being on those Tampa teams playing with Hedman he should be able to handle a 3rd pair role. Doesn’t mean he’s capable of moving up, or that there’s a spot for him unless Injury. But if he can crush is 8 minutes a night maybe someone else will want him and we have cap space and ruwh can go back to the role he filled just fine for basically lg minimum and we can upgrade other positions.
- 10inchTerror

I don't disagree with Rutta being a signing that shouldn't have happened, it just seemed pointless. That being said if you're Hextall that just signed someone and they are working out and you're in the playoff hunt I doubt he would look to trade him, he probably would look to move someone not working out for a "hockey trade"(Perron for Hagelin). I could see a Zucker trade happen if he's struggling to work with Geno for example, especially since he's now in his last year of his contract it wouldn't be impossible to move him.

I don't disagree with Rutta being a signing that shouldn't have happened, it just seemed pointless. That being said if you're Hextall that just signed someone and they are working out and you're in the playoff hunt I doubt he would look to trade him, he probably would look to move someone not working out for a "hockey trade"(Perron for Hagelin). I could see a Zucker trade happen if he's struggling to work with Geno for example, especially since he's now in his last year of his contract it wouldn't be impossible to move him.
- 668710

That doesn’t fix holes. That replaces 1 potential problem and hopes something else works out. If zucker works out then what do you trade? Archibald or caiggula? We have 3 ppl who can play 3rd competently. It’s probably our only area of excessive strength and where some cap can be freed up.

That doesn’t fix holes. That replaces 1 potential problem and hopes something else works out. If zucker works out then what do you trade? Archibald or caiggula? We have 3 ppl who can play 3rd competently. It’s probably our only area of excessive strength and where some cap can be freed up.
- 10inchTerror

If Zucker is working you don't trade him, and the top 6 is good haha. They would be able to add a bottom 6 guy at the deadline then. If you want a name maybe Kap if he's struggling, or McGinn.

Has anyone been watching that 3 Ice League?
- Rinosaur

No, have you?

No, have you?
- 668710

Nope. I just learned it existed.

That doesn’t fix holes. That replaces 1 potential problem and hopes something else works out. If zucker works out then what do you trade? Archibald or caiggula? We have 3 ppl who can play 3rd competently. It’s probably our only area of excessive strength and where some cap can be freed up.
- 10inchTerror

I would imagine Archi and Caig, probably others, will be sent down and clear waivers. I don't think they'll be on opening night roster unless injuries start hitting... Which certainly isn't far fetched I guess haha.

I would imagine Archi and Caig, probably others, will be sent down and clear waivers. I don't think they'll be on opening night roster unless injuries start hitting... Which certainly isn't far fetched I guess haha.
- MattStrat

I could see one of them making the roster. The truth is the young guys have a hard time in Pittsburgh. When you have vets for cheap to sign. makes things harder

8 x 6
- Feds91Stammer

Modified NTC