Whether hard or easy to find, they don't even need a guy like him.
- Scoob

To me it’s not as much about the player, but the term and cap hit.

My issue w the blog is it does not completely articulate the reason why the Flyers are in the position they are in today.

Remember what contract they could not move and who signed it.

Do you want to give up a potential shot at Bedard to rid themselves of JVRs contract and then double (or triple) down on the mistake by giving a winger 70 mill who will be on the downside of his career before we are good again?

This is a Hexy and Fletcher issue. Hexy left Fletcher with a group of overrated dmen. That’s their biggest issue still today. Hexy signed JVR which was a bad contract from day 1.

Did anyone here really like the JVR signing when it happened. Anyone?

I would agree that Fletcher has done a bad job here and should have been fired w the coach last year. 100%.

However, let’s not fool ourselves here. There is plenty of shyt to go around.

Not signing JG is one of the best moves or non moves this team has done in recent memory.

Who really thought signing JG was good for this franchise long term?

Who? Seriously, if you ran the flyers would you seriously have signed him?

Now maybe he had to placate Comcast or the advisors to give the old college try, but there is no way an educated hockey mind thinks signing a soon to be 29 year old winger to 70 mill over was a good idea. Maybe he earns roughly 40 mill of that deal. Maybe 45.. whatever. Are we winning the cup in that tenure?

I get why people are upset here, but again at least we did not double down on the sins of the past and anchor 48 or whoever our next GM will be with a contract that is far worse than even the JVR signing.

Be happy we did not sign JG. It would have been an absolutely terrible decision.

Just to clarify both Fletcher and Hexy are the reason why we are in this mess.

1.75 millon a 4 year for a guy that’s a goon and can take an occasional pk shift? I agree that is absolutely incredible…
- Joe Nardone

The amount that is wrong with this post is staggering.

As another poster said previously. Fletcher signed Hayes for 7M. Traded for Ristolainen and then re-upped him for 5M. Traded for Ellis at 6.5M. Vastly overpaid Farabee early at 5M as well as Hart when he was coming off of an epically bad season. Yea but it's JVR and his one year left on the deal that his holding the team back form Gaudreau. That's laughable.


This has zero to do with Hextall. He's been gone for 4 years. Hextall is the only reason why this team has some decent players. Fletcher has taken a decent core of players and crashed it to the ground. Hextall was perfect. Wasn't even really good but he did an average job of setting the franchise up for the future and there was plenty to work with.


Hextall left Fletcher with two bona fide top 4 defeneman in Provorov and Sanheim. As well as a decent 3rd pair guy in Haag.

Congratulations Chuck,

You have done the near impossible. You have united the fan base! On a recent poll, 99.9% of the Flyers fan base agreed that the best course of action is to fire you.

Goodbye then and well done!

The Deslauriers signing for both term and $ was mind boggling. The explanation was even worse.
- landros 2

Seems like Fletch want to sign everything and everyone who has played on Minnesota Wild 🤔

Congratulations Chuck,

You have done the near impossible. You have united the fan base! On a recent poll, 99.9% of the Flyers fan base agreed that the best course of action is to fire you.

Goodbye then and well done!
- NC Flyers Fan

Is that true?

Seems like Fletch want to sign everything and everyone who has played on Minnesota Wild 🤔
- THE EVIL WITHIN

Friends of Chuck or Friends of Hayes. You have to be in one of those 2 camps to get a job with the Flyers. Resumes be damned.

How does Fletcher still have a job? How has he actually had a career in the NHL?

Bill - you are the flyers GM. Do you sign JG for almost 70 mill over 7 years considering the flyers current situation?

Do you think that move would have been best for the org?
- Joe Nardone

Keep buying tickets and being holier than thou about it, Joe because you dont (frank)ing get it

How does Fletcher still have a job? How has he actually had a career in the NHL?
- kennygarcon

Just wait until he is promoted to the Head of Hockey Ops. It is literally the same scenario as Holmgren in 2011-2012. Groundhog Day.

This has zero to do with Hextall. He's been gone for 4 years. Hextall is the only reason why this team has some decent players. Fletcher has taken a decent core of players and crashed it to the ground. Hextall was perfect. Wasn't even really good but he did an average job of setting the franchise up for the future and there was plenty to work with.


Hextall left Fletcher with two bona fide top 4 defeneman in Provorov and Sanheim. As well as a decent 3rd pair guy in Haag.
- MJL

Hextall is part of the reason we dont have good players you meant to say lol
As bad as hextall was, Chuck is worse.

word is Torts and his agent have requested meeting with Scot and Chuck....

Just wait until he is promoted to the Head of Hockey Ops. It is literally the same scenario as Holmgren in 2011-2012. Groundhog Day.
- mickel25

Holmgren was actually a pretty good GM. At least his big moves for the most part worked. He gave up first rounders for Hartnell and Timonen. Not the Ristolainens of the world. He had his mistakes of course but nothing on the Fletcher scale.

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Here is Fletcher

I’m not trying to be hypercritical of the team, but there’s no obvious plan here.

Deslauriers is a tough, honest player, but he is a non-entity offensively & a 4 year, $1.75mm investment in a guy like that seems a foolish use of resources, especially when Fletcher notes there’s young players that need a shot.

As I posted yesterday, it’s really not going to help trying to walk some middle ground where the team spends a bunch of draft assets and cap room on players like DeAngelo & Ristolainen and then asks them to assume a role that’s over their capabilities.

I just can’t see getting excited or spending time or money on an organization that runs back a team that was the 4th worst team in the league last season, except that team’s best offensive player has been replaced by Deslauriers & DeAngelo.
- Jsaquella

Why not Saq? They deserve to be drawn and quartered for their malfeasance and puuting on the travesties that are their press conferences

word is Torts and his agent have requested meeting with Scot and Chuck....
- hello it's me 2050

Yea?

How does Fletcher still have a job? How has he actually had a career in the NHL?
- kennygarcon

https://www.nbcsports.com...ime-mentor-chuck-fletcher

Bobby Clarke idolized Chuck's father so he made him his protoge when he was GM of FLA. That's it. Getting in is the hard part, getting recycled is easy.

How does Fletcher still have a job? How has he actually had a career in the NHL?
- kennygarcon

Those who hired Fletch are responsible

My issue w the blog is it does not completely articulate the reason why the Flyers are in the position they are in today.

Remember what contract they could not move and who signed it.

Do you want to give up a potential shot at Bedard to rid themselves of JVRs contract and then double (or triple) down on the mistake by giving a winger 70 mill who will be on the downside of his career before we are good again?

This is a Hexy and Fletcher issue. Hexy left Fletcher with a group of overrated dmen. That’s their biggest issue still today. Hexy signed JVR which was a bad contract from day 1.

Did anyone here really like the JVR signing when it happened. Anyone?

I would agree that Fletcher has done a bad job here and should have been fired w the coach last year. 100%.

However, let’s not fool ourselves here. There is plenty of shyt to go around.

Not signing JG is one of the best moves or non moves this team has done in recent memory.

Who really thought signing JG was good for this franchise long term?

Who? Seriously, if you ran the flyers would you seriously have signed him?

Now maybe he had to placate Comcast or the advisors to give the old college try, but there is no way an educated hockey mind thinks signing a soon to be 29 year old winger to 70 mill over was a good idea. Maybe he earns roughly 40 mill of that deal. Maybe 45.. whatever. Are we winning the cup in that tenure?

I get why people are upset here, but again at least we did not double down on the sins of the past and anchor 48 or whoever our next GM will be with a contract that is far worse than even the JVR signing.

Be happy we did not sign JG. It would have been an absolutely terrible decision.

Just to clarify both Fletcher and Hexy are the reason why we are in this mess.

1.75 millon a 4 year for a guy that’s a goon and can take an occasional pk shift? I agree that is absolutely incredible…
- Joe Nardone

I agree you can’t discount the mistakes Hextall made. But..Fletcher has had plenty of time to put his stamp on this team. JVR is far from the only immovable contract they have. While I understand why you think signing JG would have been a mistake, that speaks to the Flyers inability to draft and develop their own homegrown elite talent. To have any chance you need those players….the signing of JG alone wouldn’t have been a smart move but I hoped it would have been part of the “aggressive retool” they sold the fan base on when they fired AV. It’s to the point where this team is blatantly lying to its fan base. It was refreshing that they held Bozo’s feet to the fire yesterday. I’m not sure he’s a liar, I just think he’s proven to be incompetent in his abilities and until the Flyers address that they are going no where.

Four people who have never been in my kitchen.
- Scoob

fantastic answer

I want the building to be empty. In fact the fans should organize a game where no one goes into the arena. Make them play in an empty arena. That would send a very loud message that would necessitate action.
- PLindbergh31

Joe Nardone will be there to tell he watched the players live

Hextall is part of the reason we dont have good players you meant to say lol
As bad as hextall was, Chuck is worse.
- bradster

We’ll said.

Anyone get the feeling that Braun was signed, not just for depth, but also if DeAngelo (who I assume they will force with Provorov) doesn't work out they will just throw Braun with him again?

word is Torts and his agent have requested meeting with Scot and Chuck....
- hello it's me 2050

"This team you assembled Chuck will ruin my career and legacy"
John Tortorella

Holmgren was actually a pretty good GM. At least his big moves for the most part worked. He gave up first rounders for Hartnell and Timonen. Not the Ristolainens of the world. He had his mistakes of course but nothing on the Fletcher scale.

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Here is Fletcher
- MJL

Yeah I agree for the most part. Just the cap situation and prospect pool were horrible when he left. The talent on the Flyers was far better than what Chuckles will leave for the next GM. Same horrible cap situation and middling prospect pool though.

Holmgren was actually a pretty good GM. At least his big moves for the most part worked. He gave up first rounders for Hartnell and Timonen. Not the Ristolainens of the world. He had his mistakes of course but nothing on the Fletcher scale.

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Here is Fletcher
- MJL

Homer also deserves credit for getting the best FA acquisition to assist the rebuild in Daniel Briere. When he signed Briere, the Flyers were the worst team in the league.

Bill, you've said it all.