No, MJL, you think they don't know. But you have yourself confessed they might. Indeed, you have said just a couple of hours back that you were "leaning towards" a belief that he may never play again.

You cannot call a poster's pov stupid etc when a path that would justify his position is the same one you are "leaning towards."
- PT21

That's my personal belief. That is without having any of the medical information that they have and how his current training is going.

Do I seriously have to explain to you that the perspective of looking at the situation is from the Flyers and not mine? Seriously, you consider yourself an intelligent guy.


They do not know that Ellis is going to be out for the full year at this time.

What was called stupid was the posters lack of reading comprehension as well as his repeated claims of attributing statements to me that were never made.

You injected yourself into this conversation without knowing the context and without having the knowledge that I have. Your motivation is obvious but it's a failure.

I am happy with off season so far.

I am hoping that they have gotten the formula right for a team that is so structurally flawed that even though they play hard, which brings in fans, they ultimately lose most of the times.
- PT21

you should be. because thats exactly what is happening. this team is going to benefit itself in the long haul in spite of itself.

at least we signed a career AHLer to our coaching staff!

That's my personal belief. That is without having any of the medical information that they have and how his current training is going.

Do I seriously have to explain to you that the perspective of looking at the situation is from the Flyers and not mine? Seriously, you consider yourself an intelligent guy.


They do not know that Ellis is going to be out for the full year at this time.

What was called stupid was the posters lack of reading comprehension as well as his repeated claims of attributing statements to me that were never made.

You injected yourself into this conversation without knowing the context and without having the knowledge that I have. Your motivation is obvious but it's a failure.
- MJL

Again, you do not know what the perspective of the Flyers is. They may well have inside information that he will be on LTIR for the rest of the season. Their D signings give some credence to that pov.

I read the entire conversation, sadly, while catching up today. SA flat out blew that prediction. But there is a difference between saying he was incorrect and that his rationale was wrong to begin with. He clearly suggested that the way to finance JG was buyout of JVR and a subsequent LTIRing of Ellis.

That is certainly speculation but it is not impossible at all, by your words. The Flyers may well know Ellis will be on LTIR.

you should be. because thats exactly what is happening. this team is going to benefit itself in the long haul in spite of itself.
- stayinthefnnet

For that to happen, Couts needs to be a shell of himself, which I am praying for. Else, they pick around 10-14

EDIT: not sure it is "in spite of itself".

Again, you do not know what the perspective of the Flyers is. They may well have inside information that he will be on LTIR for the rest of the season. Their D signings give some credence to that pov.


- PT21

Here is what I know. I know what the Flyers tell us at the press conference. Fletcher stated that Ellis has to ramp up his training in July and then see where he is at and go from there. I also can look and see how they acted at the draft and through free agency. If they knew Ellis was going to out on LTIR for the full year. They would've acted differently

I read the entire conversation, sadly, while catching up today. SA flat out blew that prediction. But there is a difference between saying he was incorrect and that his rationale was wrong to begin with. He clearly suggested that the way to finance JG was buyout of JVR and a subsequent LTIRing of Ellis.

That is certainly speculation but it is not impossible at all, by your words. The Flyers may well know Ellis will be on LTIR.
- PT21

Your response here tells me that you did not read the entire conversation and don't know the context.
The debate was not whether it was possible as I myself alluded to the fact that the Flyers could use off season LTIR with Ellis and Farabee and then worry about it later. I stated that multiple times. That was not in dispute at any time. At least not from my side.

Again, if you want to interject yourself into a conversation, that's fine. But know what the hell you're talking about. You don't.

My premise is this. A team is not going to risk putting itself millions over the upper limit in the Summer with out a clear avenue to become cap compliant for the season. Not having to rely on another team to bail them out later. Or that a player who they don't know at this point time will be able to be kept on LTIR.

stayin alive could not grasp that simple premise and then started posting that I said that a team would not put itself over the cap by millions period in the summer. He linked to Capfreindly saying look at the team that were over the cap. It was then explained to him that those teams have an avenue already in place to be cap compliant. He then went off on all kinds of asinine tangents that showed a lock of understanding of the salary cap and a lack of understanding of what was being said

You have continued in his footsteps