Be done all you want. Per usual you can’t explain why jg COULDNT BE SIGNED. You’re wrong. We all know it.

Move on to next person to get your rocks off. Like I said in earlier post I truly hope you get help. I actually care about human life
- Stayin alive

Believe me being on that brilliant blowhards no response list is nice.

He is a keyboard wizard who can never ever ever ever ever be swayed to another position other then his own Brilliance.

Well that’s where gms bring in actual cap experts. Not mjl’s of the world.
Most cap limit teams have to make moves on paper especially at start of season to become compliant.
With this roster of trash personally would it really matter if they used waiver or buyout would it matter if they even lost players? 90% of roster is garbage anyways.

Actually might even be a plan to rid garbage that no one wants anyways. Not ideal but a start maybe
- Stayin alive

Buying out JVR would have generated $2.6mil in cap space. Not nearly enough. The Flyers do not have enough movable parts (unless you are trading TK, Provy, Farabee, etc.) to make signing Gaudreau feasible. In the moment sure they could have. The mad scramble afterwards to get compliant would have been sheer anarchy.

In theory you are right. In practice signing Gaudreau was nearly impossible. Thanks to CF and his experts.

JFC

Stayin Alive is the guy who gets knocked out cold but gave the other guy a bloody nose and thinks he won the fight and then doesn't shut the (frank) up about it for the rest of his life
- THE BLACK HAND

lol, were you actually following their convo ? lol
They need their own room.

Believe me being on that brilliant blowhards no response list is nice.

He is a keyboard wizard who can never ever ever ever ever be swayed to another position other then his own Brilliance.
- konalover711

Im on it too, and i like it.
If you show him up, you can get on it too.

Today is the 15th of July 2022 and chuck fletcher is the worst GM in the history of sports
- corduroy

How is that different than every other single day in the last two years?

Buying out JVR would have generated $2.6mil in cap space. Not nearly enough. The Flyers do not have enough movable parts (unless you are trading TK, Provy, Farabee, etc.) to make signing Gaudreau feasible. In the moment sure they could have. The mad scramble afterwards to get compliant would have been sheer anarchy.

In theory you are right. In practice signing Gaudreau was nearly impossible. Thanks to CF and his experts.
- mickel25

Unless they believed there is a feasible path by which Ellis could be placed on LTIR.

Which makes me think that if Flyers did really want JG, the reason they couldn't is probably because Ellis projects to miss a lot of time, but not the entire season. Which is my hope as welll. 🥰🥰

That is very cutting of you. But in fact, he could easily be right and also be consistent with what you have been saying of them needing to have a plan. Here is how.

1. Sign Gaudreau now for 10m and don't sign Nic DL. Everything else the same. That puts your current cap hit at about 7.5m over cap (10m-1.75m-0.07 of current cap space). 7.6 is less than the 10% of the 82.5, so good for now.


- PT21

The entire context of my position is not that it can't be done. It's that they would be put in a position where they would have to rely on another team to bail them out. They cannot guarantee at this point in time that Ellis will be on LTIR for the long term. He could start the season on LTIR and be ready to play in November. Then what? The exemption disappears. Same for Farabee when he is ready to play.

2. Explore trades for JVR with salary retained of at least 2.7m before opening day. If it works out, fine, if not, buy him out by then. Either way, his cap hit will drop by at least 2.7m (with buyout, that is about what it drops by)


- PT21

That is relying on another team. You need to educate yourself on how buyouts work. There are two periods in a calendar year when a player can be bought out. One is currently and soon to end. The other is later in the Summer if you have a player who went to arbitration. You can't buy out a player at any other time. You don't have the facts.

3. Put Ellis on LTIR for the regular season, as you yourself have suggested they might well plan to. That gives you 6.25. Along with the JVR trade/buy-out, 6.25+2.7=almost 9 which is 1.4 m more than the 7.6 they needed to cover. You start opening day by being about 1.4m under the cap.




- PT21

The what happens when and if Ellis is ready to play this season? You have not grasped it either.

Buying out JVR would have generated $2.6mil in cap space. Not nearly enough. The Flyers do not have enough movable parts (unless you are trading TK, Provy, Farabee, etc.) to make signing Gaudreau feasible. In the moment sure they could have. The mad scramble afterwards to get compliant would have been sheer anarchy.

In theory you are right. In practice signing Gaudreau was nearly impossible. Thanks to CF and his experts.
- mickel25

He cannot comprehend it.

Unless they believed there is a feasible path by which Ellis could be placed on LTIR.

Which makes me think that if Flyers did really want JG, the reason they couldn't is probably because Ellis projects to miss a lot of time, but not the entire season. Which is my hope as welll. 🥰🥰
- PT21

Probably? LMAO. They don't know and cannot guarantee he is going to be out for the entire season.

The entire context of my position is not that it can't be done. It's that they would be put in a position where they would have to rely on another team to bail them out. They cannot guarantee at this point in time that Ellis will be on LTIR for the long term. He could start the season on LTIR and be ready to play in November. Then what? The exemption disappears. Same for Farabee when he is ready to play.




That is relying on another team. You need to educate yourself on how buyouts work. There are two periods in a calendar year when a player can be bought out. One is currently and soon to end. The other is later in the Summer if you have a player who went to arbitration. You can't buy out a player at any other time. You don't have the facts.




The what happens when and if Ellis is ready to play this season? You have not grasped it either.



- MJL

What I am saying is they may well know he will be on LTIR. As you yourself have speculated they might, based on off-season moves. I am not saying there is an easy path. I am saying: there may well have been a path


2nd bold: Then just change my argument from opening day to end of the first buyout period. Try to trade JVR by then, and if not, buy him out.

That is very cutting of you. But in fact, he could easily be right and also be consistent with what you have been saying of them needing to have a plan. Here is how.

1. Sign Gaudreau now for 10m and don't sign Nic DL. Everything else the same. That puts your current cap hit at about 7.5m over cap (10m-1.75m-0.07 of current cap space). 7.6 is less than the 10% of the 82.5, so good for now.

2. Explore trades for JVR with salary retained of at least 2.7m before opening day. If it works out, fine, if not, buy him out by then. Either way, his cap hit will drop by at least 2.7m (with buyout, that is about what it drops by)

3. Put Ellis on LTIR for the regular season, as you yourself have suggested they might well plan to. That gives you 6.25. Along with the JVR trade/buy-out, 6.25+2.7=almost 9 which is 1.4 m more than the 7.6 they needed to cover. You start opening day by being about 1.4m under the cap.




- PT21

Not even that. He knows you tried to call me out on jg rumor.

He tried to use Jvr trade or buyout as excuse as to why philly couldn’t even sign jg wouldn’t be enough cap room

When called out he tried like he does to twist into whether they should or cap complient bs.

I for the record never said I wanted them to sign jg

I’ve been the lead tear it down for years on this stupid site so clearly I wouldn’t want them to sign jg.

Was just reporting what I heard.

But using his stupid method like you pointed out they easily could’ve signed him.

He likes to jump in with his opinions and state as fact. And usually he’s wrong. Will deflect and twist that’s how he gets his rocks off. It’s amusing because anyone that’s been on here long enough knows he’s been forever a excuse maker for team and has only recently begun the anti flyers sentiments. Yet denies his past.


Notice he still to this hasn’t produced 1 article pre draft of nopa migraine issue? Hilarious actually. Remember him defending team forever about that. Like I’ve said he very well might be bill driving hits because no one can be that obtuse.

Unless they believed there is a feasible path by which Ellis could be placed on LTIR.

Which makes me think that if Flyers did really want JG, the reason they couldn't is probably because Ellis projects to miss a lot of time, but not the entire season. Which is my hope as welll. 🥰🥰
- PT21

i'm just as disappointed as the average flyers fan that you guys didnt sign JG

Buying out JVR would have generated $2.6mil in cap space. Not nearly enough. The Flyers do not have enough movable parts (unless you are trading TK, Provy, Farabee, etc.) to make signing Gaudreau feasible. In the moment sure they could have. The mad scramble afterwards to get compliant would have been sheer anarchy.

In theory you are right. In practice signing Gaudreau was nearly impossible. Thanks to CF and his experts.
- mickel25

Like I’ve said I NEVER wanted them too. I’m team tear down

Just don’t call my bluff with some bs can’t and try to pass it off later as oh we could but shouldn’t.

Like I told him just say you’re full of poop and I wouldn’t want them to make jg deal. But he can’t do that. He’s gotta make comments and pass his opinion as fact. He escalates poop to drive hits. He must be bill lol. Or maybe ek lol.

Im on it too, and i like it.
If you show him up, you can get on it too.
- bradster

Oh I’m on that list and rarely engage him. I know his deal.

Like I said still waiting for his “proof “ in these articles before nopa was drafted that he had migraine issue. The fact that he name calls daily especially against jd50 and hasn’t had a ban while almost everyone has been banned tells a lot. He’s either bill or ek or a mod

And in this case I didn’t engage him until he tried to call me out. Basically only time to engage him. Everyone gets sucked in once and awhile. I’ve learned to make it amusing pointing out his crap.

The entire context of my position is not that it can't be done. It's that they would be put in a position where they would have to rely on another team to bail them out. They cannot guarantee at this point in time that Ellis will be on LTIR for the long term. He could start the season on LTIR and be ready to play in November. Then what? The exemption disappears. Same for Farabee when he is ready to play.




That is relying on another team. You need to educate yourself on how buyouts work. There are two periods in a calendar year when a player can be bought out. One is currently and soon to end. The other is later in the Summer if you have a player who went to arbitration. You can't buy out a player at any other time. You don't have the facts.




The what happens when and if Ellis is ready to play this season? You have not grasped it either.



- MJL

Piss off troll that wasn’t the context. You said said I was making up 90% of story AND
JVR BUYOUT WOULDNT EVEN GET YOU HALFWAY THERE

THAT WAS THE CONTEXT.

but go ahead try to twist it later after

You ever find those nopa articles you troll? Mr expert on cap and migraines

i'm just as disappointed as the average flyers fan that you guys didnt sign JG
- stayinthefnnet

I by no means ever thought they SHOULD.

Personally I laugh my ass off at this team as I’ve said for years they won’t win and everything that’s happened is predictable.

If they had landed him I’d have loved to see all the poop that would be done after. Pure entertainment value.

Kinda like all the tools that said they wouldn’t trade coots for eichel. Not even straight up

Or hey gotta sign coots to extension now female doging about cap and whatnot

Philly fans pretty much suck.

They’re not educated at all
Their team doesn’t win poop
They don’t watch hockey in general
And obviously don’t understand modern nhl

Pathetic laughingstock of league.

He cannot comprehend it.
- MJL

I get your spin you bumhole. Had you just said they shouldn’t do jg for those reasons from start I would’ve agreed you twit.


You KNOW. That’s not what you started with.

Why are you people arguing? Flyers are bad. The cap is screwed. Fletcher is a tool. Nothing more needs to be said. No one is a cap expert or has insider info. Good lord. If you kids don’t behave I’m turning this car around.

Not even that. He knows you tried to call me out on jg rumor.

He tried to use Jvr trade or buyout as excuse as to why philly couldn’t even sign jg wouldn’t be enough cap room

When called out he tried like he does to twist into whether they should or cap complient bs.

I for the record never said I wanted them to sign jg

I’ve been the lead tear it down for years on this stupid site so clearly I wouldn’t want them to sign jg.

Was just reporting what I heard.

But using his stupid method like you pointed out they easily could’ve signed him.

He likes to jump in with his opinions and state as fact. And usually he’s wrong. Will deflect and twist that’s how he gets his rocks off. It’s amusing because anyone that’s been on here long enough knows he’s been forever a excuse maker for team and has only recently begun the anti flyers sentiments. Yet denies his past.


Notice he still to this hasn’t produced 1 article pre draft of nopa migraine issue? Hilarious actually. Remember him defending team forever about that. Like I’ve said he very well might be bill driving hits because no one can be that obtuse.
- Stayin alive

I didn't call you out. But don't you think it is highly unlikely that social media hearsay will be accurate in such situations when no one else seems to know? Also, the way Flyers were operating seemed incompatible with bringing JG here.

i'm just as disappointed as the average flyers fan that you guys didnt sign JG
- stayinthefnnet

I am happy with off season so far.

I am hoping that they have gotten the formula right for a team that is so structurally flawed that even though they play hard, which brings in fans, they ultimately lose most of the times.

What I am saying is they may well know he will be on LTIR. As you yourself have speculated they might, based on off-season moves. I am not saying there is an easy path. I am saying: there may well have been a path


2nd bold: Then just change my argument from opening day to end of the first buyout period. Try to trade JVR by then, and if not, buy him out.
- PT21

Again, they don't know that he will be on LTIR for the entire season. If they did. It is likely they would've signed Gaudreau.

As for the 2nd, that's right now. They have tried to trade JVR. They can't without paying a price that they don't want to pay. If they were going to buyout JVR, they would've already done that.

Your issue is one, a lack of knowledge on the subject and secondly and most importantly. Not knowing the full context of the conversation.

I get your spin you bumhole. Had you just said they shouldn’t do jg for those reasons from start I would’ve agreed you twit.


You KNOW. That’s not what you started with.
- Stayin alive

That's exactly what I've been saying. For multiple days! You just couldn't comprehend it and aren't thinking straight because you're all frothed up because I told you you were full of it with the "it's a done deal" nonsense. You put yourself in that position.


Whether you want to use shouldn't or couldn't. It's just semantics. There is a reason they didn't do it. I've been attempting to explain it to you. It has proven most difficult.

Johnny Gaudreau signed for an AAV 9,750,000

Half of that is 4,875,000

A buyout of JVR would save the Flyers 2,666,000

https://www.capfriendly.c...ulator/james-van-riemsdyk


A buyout of JVR doesn't get the Flyers half way there to make room for Gaudreau.

https://flyersnittygritty...esive-plan-and-direction/

Spot on.

Again, they don't know that he will be on LTIR for the entire season. If they did. It is likely they would've signed Gaudreau.

As for the 2nd, that's right now. They have tried to trade JVR. They can't without paying a price that they don't want to pay. If they were going to buyout JVR, they would've already done that.

Your issue is one, a lack of knowledge on the subject and secondly and most importantly. Not knowing the full context of the conversation.
- MJL

No, MJL, you think they don't know. But you have yourself confessed they might. Indeed, you have said just a couple of hours back that you were "leaning towards" a belief that he may never play again.

You cannot call a poster's pov stupid etc when a path that would justify his position is the same one you are "leaning towards."