Maybe demonstrations at the home of Fletcher and his Comcast Darth Vaders in suits, class action suit by anyone who pays for Flyers hockey via cable/streaming subscriptions, tickets and fan gear. Oh yeah, and empty arena. Burn them down financially.
- RajaAmpat

I for one will not be watching this train wreck this year. I honestly feel bad for Torts. If Dave Scott does not do the right thing now, he should be forced into retirement and a new governor appointed by Comcast, one preferably that has a passion for the sport!

Did Fletcher and his group deserve one more chance to try to get it right considering the combination of bad luck, and unexpected circumstances the past two years? Yes.

This, however. THIS...was the only thing they couldn't let happen. And they did! No Management team has ever failed so spectacularly in my lifetime as these Flyers - and there were a lot of bad Phillies teams, and Process-era Sixers and the sugar rush that was Chip Kelly.

But this is the worst of the worst of the worst.

Go. All of them. Nice people. Good people. But either very bad at their jobs or too closely associated with those that are.

End the disgrace, Give the city back their hockey team. NOW!
-Anthony SanFilippo
- jd250

Is chuck gonna trade some of the kids now? No room for them anyway. I hope there is room for Cates. He'd be a good cheap 4th liner. He showed some promise last year. I honestly didn't think chuck could screw up this much. I dont think Wade will pass through waivers, someone will take a shot that he can stay healthy.

Then I think about Zubrus, Pitkanen, Niinimaa, Sharp, Sbisa........
- MBFlyerfan

Sbisa was ambidextrous -- could play D and Wing

Anthony SanFilipo with a great article on crossingbroad: The Time has Come to End the Embarrassment that is Flyers Management.

Couldn't agree more at this point.
- jd250

I thought the article was outstanding. Chuck should be gone today. Not a single person in the current organization (ownership included) has a clue how to run an NHL team, especially one with such a passionate and thirsty for success fan base. If you are a partial or full STH, I implore you to demand a refund TODAY! Who the hell does ownership/management think they’re fooling? Coyotes are better run organization. I’ve hit my breaking point…never seen such ineptitude in ANY sport or ANY team.

Did Fletcher and his group deserve one more chance to try to get it right considering the combination of bad luck, and unexpected circumstances the past two years? Yes.

This, however. THIS...was the only thing they couldn't let happen. And they did! No Management team has ever failed so spectacularly in my lifetime as these Flyers - and there were a lot of bad Phillies teams, and Process-era Sixers and the sugar rush that was Chip Kelly.

But this is the worst of the worst of the worst.

Go. All of them. Nice people. Good people. But either very bad at their jobs or too closely associated with those that are.

End the disgrace, Give the city back their hockey team. NOW!
-Anthony SanFilippo
- jd250

Chuck had an amazing off-season, every move he made changed the culture of the team and made it better!

jd 250

I for one will not be watching this train wreck this year. I honestly feel bad for Torts. If Dave Scott does not do the right thing now, he should be forced into retirement and a new governor appointed by Comcast, one preferably that has a passion for the sport!
- jd250

What about chuckles?

ASF with an amazing article.
- FlyerFan3260

I’ve tried to be positive and root for them to turn this around, but he is right—nothing left to do except to watch it burn.

I thought the article was outstanding. Chuck should be gone today. Not a single person in the current organization (ownership included) has a clue how to run an NHL team, especially one with such a passionate and thirsty for success fan base. If you are a partial or full STH, I implore you to demand a refund TODAY! Who the hell does ownership/management think they’re fooling? Coyotes are better run organization. I’ve hit my breaking point…never seen such ineptitude in ANY sport or ANY team.
- BroadSTmayhem

30 years in the NHL, only ever been AGM or GM and this is how you run your organization? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂This is a stain on everyone in that front office.....nice people, but this is a business and results matter.

This whole thing is just so off-the-wall bad. It's a fiasco.

The "plan" wasn't a very good plan to begin with, but the fact that Fletcher even managed to (frank) that up is completely bewildering.

30 years in the NHL, only ever been AGM or GM and this is how you run your organization? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂This is a stain on everyone in that front office.....nice people, but this is a business and results matter.
- Flyerfan2868

If they can buyout Lindblom because it’s a business then they can be fired because it’s a business.

Reports say JG had no performance or signing bonuses and also has no NMC.
- MBFlyerfan

Gaudreau is not eligible to have performance bonuses in his contract.

I usually think ASF is a clown, this is something I can agree on.
- rayc16

same, but this is funny:

The Flyers roster has been put together like a toddler being asked to put all 64 Crayola crayons back in their original spot in the box. They might get a few right, but mostly they are going to be wrong fits, or partly broken.

Not too many had Wright at 4 or Nemec at 2 either. I don't agree it was a reach. And the more I watch him the more I think he will be a really good player. Big, fast , and highly skilled. And I also like that he is going the college route instead of Juniors.
- MBFlyerfan

His advisors should be telling him to stay the 3 years in college. Get all the poon he can handle. Leave free agent and sign where he wants. Stay as far away from philly as possible

https://www.crossingbroad.com/2022/07/the-time-has-come-to-end-the-embarrassment-that-is-flyers-management.html

good read
- hello it's me 2050

Very good read….and all so true.

Let's review what I have posted about DeAngelo beyond his obvious stats. 1. he is a good player, 2. he is a good OFFENSIVE defenseman and 3. he is actively working to become a more complete player, specifically his defensive game.

If you disagree with any of these statements, it is you who are embarrassing yourself.
- jd250

Yes, let's review what you said and show again that have no idea what you post even mere hours ago.


https://hockeybuzz.com/bo...p?thread_id=179787&page=9

"trades what remaining cap space he has on DeAngelo, which is a very good defenseman"

Meanwhile, the Canes hired Tulsky out of Philly (Flyers fan btw), who was a pioneer of hockey analytics, deep background in math and hard science, Harvard grad and PHD from UC Berkeley, worked for years in bleeding edge medical tech. Widely regarded as a bit of a genius.

They not only identified and hired him, they let him reshape their entire approach to evaluating players and prospects. And now he's a VP with a ton of influence over day to day hockey decisions. And he's been a finalist for the 'Hawks GM seat and others.

It's like comparing Nate Prosser to Victor Hedman.
- Tomahawk

The shame is it seems like they'll never get around to adapting, let alone, becoming bleeding edge.

If they can buyout Lindblom because it’s a business then they can be fired because it’s a business.
- NC Flyers Fan

His advisors should be telling him to stay the 3 years in college. Get all the poon he can handle. Leave free agent and sign where he wants. Stay as far away from philly as possible
- Stayin alive

He comes to Philly next year, he'll be overwhelmed with it, plus money. He'll be ok. Maybe by that time you'll see Forester, Desnoyers, and a few others while moving a few older contracts. He'll be just fine coming to Philly next year.

I still rely on Bill saying he thinks he moves back to wing in the NHL. In which case his pre draft ranking takes him down into the teens where he was by most accounts before saying he’d play Center at BC. There were just too many other forwards there I’d be more comfortable having taken (not to mention Jiricek as well)
- hereticpride

A player is not going to move up from the teens to the top 5 just based on a position change. That doesn't change his skill level or potential.

The Flyers :
-Have a new coach who has told everyone when he's retiring before even having his first practice
-An analytics dept head who had never done analytics before being given charge of the entire dept.
-A PP coach who likes to fight his own players
-A GM who only became a GM because Bobby Clarke worshipped his father and hired him based on that single fact.
-bought out a young player despite their being a market for him and was only bought out so the Flyers could sign the worst statistical offensive player to a 4 year deal.
-traded 3 draft picks for a controversial defenseman despite no other known suiters and it being a JG deal killer with JG being plan A and B for the team.
-Got taken to the woodshed in the above Canes trade considering they were able to get a better defenseman for the same price.
-signed enough pluggers to make sure the young guys don't get playing time.
-lament not having "high end talent" and sign the least talented/upside players available.
-required everyone signed to either be a friend of Hayes or from Chuck's tenure in Minnesota.

The Flyers :
-Have a new coach who has told everyone when he's retiring before even having his first practice
-An analytics dept head who had never done analytics before being given charge of the entire dept.
-A PP coach who likes to fight his own players
-A GM who only became a GM because Bobby Clarke worshipped his father and hired him based on that single fact.
-bought out a young player despite their being a market for him and was only bought out so the Flyers could sign the worst statistical offensive player to a 4 year deal.
-traded 3 draft picks for a controversial defenseman despite no other known suiters and it being a JG deal killer with JG being plan A and B for the team.
-Got taken to the woodshed in the above Canes trade considering they were able to get a better defenseman for the same price.
-signed enough pluggers to make sure the young guys don't get playing time.
-lament not having "high end talent" and sign the least talented/upside players available.
-required everyone signed to either be a friend of Hayes or from Chuck's tenure in Minnesota.
- Flyers_01

That's right

Anthony SanFilipo with a great article on crossingbroad: The Time has Come to End the Embarrassment that is Flyers Management.

Couldn't agree more at this point.
- jd250

At this point. You're only a couple of years behind.

He comes to Philly next year, he'll be overwhelmed with it, plus money. He'll be ok. Maybe by that time you'll see Forester, Desnoyers, and a few others while moving a few older contracts. He'll be just fine coming to Philly next year.
- RustyPipes

Yeah that’s true. There is some nice poon in Philly. I’ll admit that

His advisors should be telling him to stay the 3 years in college. Get all the poon he can handle. Leave free agent and sign where he wants. Stay as far away from philly as possible
- Stayin alive

Probably not.

If he is ready after a year he'll sign with the Flyers. Why risk a bad injury trying to wait out the 4 years to be a free agent.

The Flyers :
-Have a new coach who has told everyone when he's retiring before even having his first practice
-An analytics dept head who had never done analytics before being given charge of the entire dept.
-A PP coach who likes to fight his own players
-A GM who only became a GM because Bobby Clarke worshipped his father and hired him based on that single fact.
-bought out a young player despite their being a market for him and was only bought out so the Flyers could sign the worst statistical offensive player to a 4 year deal.
-traded 3 draft picks for a controversial defenseman despite no other known suiters and it being a JG deal killer with JG being plan A and B for the team.
-Got taken to the woodshed in the above Canes trade considering they were able to get a better defenseman for the same price.
-signed enough pluggers to make sure the young guys don't get playing time.
-lament not having "high end talent" and sign the least talented/upside players available.
-required everyone signed to either be a friend of Hayes or from Chuck's tenure in Minnesota.
- Flyers_01

And here I thought that there was no direction for the team. Mind Blown...