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pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Jul 9 @ 9:59 PM ET
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- Ogilthorpe2


🤤 Looks scrumptious!! Love a good pesto base and charred, bubbly crust.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 9 @ 10:01 PM ET
Oh relax a bit B-T-D, there won't be any championships for awhile but eventually some new young kids will burst into flowers and there will be hope again.

Real darkness is the Toronto Maple Leafs and their fans, living without sunshine and facing directly into the blackness of space - permanently.

- RickJ


Hahaha, yeah just like Bingo that's gotta suck to be in that good enough to make the playoffs but is my team really good enough to win the Cup. I've got 3 in the bank and looking forward to the Blackhawks youth and development camp in the upcoming years, it beats sitting their watching the Pens on the ice with Jagr and Lemieux in the 90s thinking will i ever see the Blackhawks win the Cup. The rest is gravy for me Rick.

Except for game day, because it's just the way i roll
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 9 @ 10:02 PM ET
What UFA is going to sign up for this mess? Guys no one wanted in the first place? Or they would sign them this summer.
- Elbows15


Hahaha, really, hmmm getting paid more money, these guys don't play for as little as they can make.

And I'm accused of being irrational
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:09 PM ET
What UFA is going to sign up for this mess? Guys no one wanted in the first place? Or they would sign them this summer.
- Elbows15

Everybody likes Joe Thornton. Probably can still beat Strome in a race.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:12 PM ET
Everybody likes Joe Thornton. Probably can still beat Strome in a race.
- RickJ

He definitely won’t fall on his ass from the breeze of another player skating by.
Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:16 PM ET
What UFA is going to sign up for this mess? Guys no one wanted in the first place? Or they would sign them this summer.
- Elbows15


Gus?
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 9 @ 10:19 PM ET
Asking him to retire is a way to circumvent the cap. You must be related to Bettman!
Don't you have a life beyond this website?

- powerenforcer

In reality Keith did the Hawks a favor waving his NMC. Stan needed to trade him to get Jones.
Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:27 PM ET
In reality Keith did the Hawks a favor waving his NMC. Stan needed to trade him to get Jones.
- rpeters01


In that case, Keith corn holed the Hawks twice.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 9 @ 10:27 PM ET
Hahaha, really, hmmm getting paid more money, these guys don't play for as little as they can make.

And I'm accused of being irrational

- BetweenTheDots


So, overpay for plugs is your plan? Makes no sense.

Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 9 @ 10:28 PM ET
Gus?
- Dieselhead

They just drafted the next Gus. And they need forwards. They have enough D-men.
333inthe3rd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.04.2015

Jul 9 @ 10:34 PM ET
I don't know why all the frustration on here over the recapture on Duncan Keith's contract. It's not like the team is going to push the cap limit this year. If anything, it helps keep the team above the salary floor should there be more trades this summer.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 9 @ 10:34 PM ET
Everybody likes Joe Thornton. Probably can still beat Strome in a race.
- RickJ


Take a look at the UFA list. You just traded 3 of the youngest players on the team to burn it down. Are you going out and signing any FAs to term?


Given the logical answer is no. What FA that has its pick of teams is going to want to sign on to the good ship Hawks at this point?

You can get guys like Thornton(not really cause he cup chasing) or Kessel.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:40 PM ET
So, overpay for plugs is your plan? Makes no sense.
- Elbows15

I have no idea what the plan is? However prior to the draft I posted if it was possible for KD to get two or three firsts this draft then the two they have next season possibly hitting the jackpot with Bedard or Fantilli with a “consolation prize” of Mitchkov. To get into the lottery part of the draft the team has to absolutely suck. So trade off one the best assets, ABD, and potentially piss if Kane who wants out. Far fetched or a good plan?

vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:41 PM ET
Assuming the recapture penalty counts toward the cap, Rocky gets $5+M toward the cap by spending $0.
- mohel


My earlier point.

Are we not sure he did them a solid by retiring?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 9 @ 10:46 PM ET
So, overpay for plugs is your plan? Makes no sense.
- Elbows15


Forest for the trees Elbows

If you can flip them in one years time for more draft picks makes perfect sense to me.

There is no going back now, might as well go full throttle into 1 year contracts that you can flip at the trade deadline, and you can retain half their salary
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 9 @ 10:57 PM ET
Capfriendly doesn't have the Blackhawks retaining any salary so they can over pay 3 FA's to 1 year contracts and flip them at the trade deadline while retaining half their salary. If i was KD i would definitely go this route
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 9 @ 11:02 PM ET
And for those that say who would do that? Please if KD says I'll pay you more money but my intention is to trade you to a playoff team, how many FA's say no especially if they are being offered half of what KD is willing to offer them.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jul 9 @ 11:05 PM ET
Take a look at the UFA list. You just traded 3 of the youngest players on the team to burn it down. Are you going out and signing any FAs to term?


Given the logical answer is no. What FA that has its pick of teams is going to want to sign on to the good ship Hawks at this point?

You can get guys like Thornton(not really cause he cup chasing) or Kessel.

- Elbows15

Like Larry Brooks says - the Hawks are trying to become the Oakland A's of the NHL.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 9 @ 11:11 PM ET
Like Larry Brooks says - the Hawks are trying to become the Oakland A's of the NHL.
- RickJ


Then Larry Brooks is a moron because he doesn't understand how the A's and Blackhawks differ

Blackhawks paid their star players

A better comparable to the A's are the Hurricanes

They paid Seth Jones$9.5 per and traded 2 firsts, Canes let Hamilton walk traded DeAngelo, yea he's got no clue
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 9 @ 11:21 PM ET
Capfriendly doesn't have the Blackhawks retaining any salary so they can over pay 3 FA's to 1 year contracts and flip them at the trade deadline while retaining half their salary. If i was KD i would definitely go this route
- BetweenTheDots


Would most likely have to retain on Kane and Toews if they want out.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Jul 9 @ 11:33 PM ET
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Geez, thats a long driveway to shovel. Nice yard though.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 9 @ 11:54 PM ET
[INSERT NAME] who can later be flipped at the TDL for more draft capital.
- Chief4Feathers


Insert Name doesn’t skate well enough to and he’s terrible on face offs.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 9 @ 11:59 PM ET
I have no idea what the plan is? However prior to the draft I posted if it was possible for KD to get two or three firsts this draft then the two they have next season possibly hitting the jackpot with Bedard or Fantilli with a “consolation prize” of Mitchkov. To get into the lottery part of the draft the team has to absolutely suck. So trade off one the best assets, ABD, and potentially piss if Kane who wants out. Far fetched or a good plan?
- paulr

Every team that doesn't make the playoffs is in the lottery. The Hawks were going to suck either way. Trading Dinky for pennies on the dollar isn't kick starting a rebuild. Its setting it further behind, imo.

Now, even if they get one of the top 3, they have no one to help them develop at the NHL level. Whatever.

Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Jul 10 @ 12:02 AM ET
Insert Name doesn’t skate well enough to and he’s terrible on face offs.
- DarthKane


Ok, well maybe they need to offer a contract to [YOUR NAME HERE]?
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 10 @ 12:02 AM ET
Forest for the trees Elbows

If you can flip them in one years time for more draft picks makes perfect sense to me.

There is no going back now, might as well go full throttle into 1 year contracts that you can flip at the trade deadline, and you can retain half their salary

- BetweenTheDots

Or you know, they can just sign with a playoff team. I guess you value 3rd and 4th much more than I do.

Any player who would be desirable at the TDL is prolly going to want term.

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