And let me add my congratulations to Duncan Keith on a great career.
- boilermaker100

Yes great career…but couldn’t he have just made up a medical reason to quit like every other player with a potential recapture penalty did?

Talking to a few fans of other fan bases and the response is the same about this draft. Reaching for players that should have gone later.
- SaskHawkFan

I’m guessing because of a couple of Covid shortened seasons, there was less consensus among teams draft boards than in most years. The slotting for the Bozo we got at #25 was all over the map.

Neapolitan style. Dough’s been fermenting for 3 days. Homemade DDH NEIPA on tap.
- Ogilthorpe2

Sounds good, don't blow it at the end.

Still trying to square how the same organization can make both the Jones and Cat deals.

Also trying to square the Hawks taking on a salary dump from Tor nets them nothing but moving a pick up. Remember when the Hawks were on the other end of such a deal? It cost us Teuvo.

This organization is in the toilet for a reason. I’m fearing they remain there a long time.

But congrats to Duncan, a warrior. He will be missed. His 2015 playoffs was one of the finest display of pro hockey I’ve ever seen by a Dman. No Keith no Cup!
- kwolf68

Not the same organization. KD is not SB.

Talking to a few fans of other fan bases and the response is the same about this draft. Reaching for players that should have gone later.
- SaskHawkFan

Is it though, if that was the Blackhawks draft board, they may have gotten some bargains in their eyes.

I don't think they drafted one player who has to improve their skating. Unless they did in the later rounds but all of them a serious long shots

It was rough seeing all these guys go, but they ripped the band aid off, so here we go the KD era officially starts.

Is it though, if that was the Blackhawks draft board, they may have gotten some bargains in their eyes.

I don't think they drafted one player who has to improve their skating. Unless they did in the later rounds but all of them a serious long shots
- BetweenTheDots

It appeared there were 2 themes in all the picks, skating and high motor. They drafted players that fit the way KD wants the Hawks to play, fast.

The only thing i want is for them to do is follow their board, if they drafted best available in their eyes, I'm good with it. Hopefully they are right and many on this board will be wrong.

It appeared there were 2 themes in all the picks, skating and high motor. They drafted players that fit the way KD wants the Hawks to play, fast.
- LAHawk

Makes a ton of sense when drafting after the 1st round to me.

See what happens with Jane. Brisson was quick to say “no comment” when somebody asked about Kane’s take on the trades.

The dach trade is a win for the hawks. Dach has shown nothing to say he’ll be a top 6 player now or ever. You sell high before asset finally finds it or bottoms out. Can a rebuilding team afford to do that? Apparently those in power made that call so I’ll trust they know what they are doing.

Debrincat. Not sure they got enough but again…can they afford to have 2 guys making north of 9 million in him and Jones? Nope. Likely couldn’t get a huge return for fear of what his financial demands would be moving forward.

So rebuild is in full throttle. Keep selling off where it makes sense. Teams looking for d help in Murphy or McCabe. Have to think at least 1 or 19/88 will want out now. Sell high there once teams lose out on ufas.

Biggest Variable to all this is Davidson the builder they need to start from scratch?

Yes great career…but couldn’t he have just made up a medical reason to quit like every other player with a potential recapture penalty did?
- Ogilthorpe2

100%. Especially after team did him right and got him closer to him for his kid and a chance to win.

Great player but really a d-ck move and see how this organization responds to this long term. Wirtz will Wirtz.

Because this was supposedly a weak draft, it was bad timing for this club to move assets for picks. This situation enabled the digging of a deeper hole to crawl for us to crawl out of.

In spite of what most people think, in the end the Dach move will backfire on us more than the ADB one. A young cost controlled player like that does not get moved for draft gambles by rebuilding clubs.

Forsberg and NSH agree to terms. 8 x 8.5M.

100%. Especially after team did him right and got him closer to him for his kid and a chance to win.

Great player but really a d-ck move and see how this organization responds to this long term. Wirtz will Wirtz.
- SteveRain

100% accurate. The organization did him a favor to trade him to a team closer to his kid (that did not have to happen) and then he just retires because the GM wants him to? In fact the GM wanted Keith and Smith to retire. Where is the players union?

This draft was not an epic failure. But if you don't examine the purpose of the choices closely, sure you want to jump off a bridge you are so mad with Davidson

I will agree however that they should have got more for ADB. Guess what, they will get less for Kane too

Davidson knows the '23 draft is deep and good..The top six are darn good even if you don't get Bedard.

If you think you can increase the odds of being in position to draft Bedard = wrong. The teams that would trade for Kane aren't going to finish as the lottery teams. You get a #1 '23 and hopefully a good prospect from their stable.

Re: The reason Davidson started now wheeling and dealing. Well I cannot say yet whether paying ADB plus Kane and Jones adds up to = too much toward salary cap. Then you pause, and consider that if Kane is moved, it is only two big contracts denting the salary cap

Anyway if you noticed commentary in the televised playoffs especially did you hear it more than once as applies to various teams: the teams doing well and winning are employing top 9 and a checking line. Scoring coming from three lines. Colorado and NYR went out and added a few forwards. The NYR also had the kid line break out

Will top 9 become a new trend? I don't know. I see where having smallish or below average size dmen is ok if they are good puck movers. That has been trending But also trending is having more big size dmen who can play. Chicago has that coming along. Even if each is not really physical as in beasts, they have that size. Allen, DelMaestro, Regula, Vlasic, Crevier. Mitchell will be here, Galvas is ready and flys under the radar in more ways than just his size.

They see Korchenski as being a PP Qb and really good. They are all about quickness, speed, taking pucks away. Compete..Davidson drafted that way purposely.. Next year will be a forward heavy draft BTW. That is based on availability, not on teams need

Well I got off on tangents to some extent. But Korchenski is going to be one of our top guys. No he is not Cal Maker but first of all, Korchenski will get better defensively. Secondly, Maker is not a stud defensively. Simply put Davidson loves what he projects Korchenski becomes

What he becomes is a better model eventually playing a style with ALL the things he does. Sure lots of guys niw and in '22 draft are bottom line, but at same time qualify as top nine. Speed quickness, take away pucks....feed someone who could score like our second #1 '22 selection

So you were hoping to draft ppyrnyI tobunch of not yet showing they might be offensive studs. In middle rounds. And one Breaks out as a stud. Good luck on a liquid percentage happeninstance.

You know ow getting less for ADB and probably Kaner, too, is alarming. But I see what Davidson is doing .

And Mrzak plus Laakinen is better than last season duo in net

Oh hey Scott let us keep an eye on Kaiser as he returns from major surgery

Yesterday evening I hit a wall, could not read another word of or watch film of hockey. Been all over HB and don't think a fan base has had as complete and timely material than you provided Hawk's fans, Theo.

Nicely done, sir!

I am still puzzled by the no name that we gave up a 2023 pick for to the Pens. Has anyone seen a club explanation for that move?
Seems like a wasted pick for us and Pens fans were pleased with that deal. Most of them did not know who the guy was.

I am still puzzled by the no name that we gave up a 2023 pick for to the Pens. Has anyone seen a club explanation for that move?
Seems like a wasted pick for us and Pens fans were pleased with that deal. Most of them did not know who the guy was.
- 67hawks

The same team that just paid a 35 year old Letang? I see a LTIR in his future

100% accurate. The organization did him a favor to trade him to a team closer to his kid (that did not have to happen) and then he just retires because the GM wants him to? In fact the GM wanted Keith and Smith to retire. Where is the players union?
- powerenforcer

Are you sure he isn't doing the Hawks a favor this year and next by getting them closer to the floor without having to pay out actual cash

Yes great career…but couldn’t he have just made up a medical reason to quit like every other player with a potential recapture penalty did?
- Ogilthorpe2

Does it not take 2 though, i thought it was weird they asked Keith if he was going to retire, probably approached the club and they said no we aren't interested in facilitating LTIR

100%. Especially after team did him right and got him closer to him for his kid and a chance to win.

Great player but really a d-ck move and see how this organization responds to this long term. Wirtz will Wirtz.
- SteveRain

Disagree, big kudos to Keith, a guy who punched above his weight in the NHL for well over a decade.
Professional sports is full of guys who stayed on too long. Very rare for an athlete to walk away from a guaranteed paycheck.
All parties to the trade to Edmonton knew the implications of the trade when it was made. All parties knew this could happen.
If the 'Hawks were even in the neighborhood of playoff contention, this cap recapture penalty might mean something. But they're not, by any stretch of the imagination.

I am still puzzled by the no name that we gave up a 2023 pick for to the Pens. Has anyone seen a club explanation for that move?
Seems like a wasted pick for us and Pens fans were pleased with that deal. Most of them did not know who the guy was.
- 67hawks

I hear remlioutis mention something about a conversation he had with the Hawks scouting director, where he said we are getting close to our limit on draft picks.

Remilioutis asked on the podcast "Is there a limit on the number of picks you can make in any one draft?"

Not ever heard that, but maybe that's why??

Its one thing to say that the return on the ADB trade was disappointing or inadequate - which it was. That opinion is almost universal.

But to regard ADB as a player to rebuild around is not sound hockey logic. He is a smallish winger who puts the biscuit in the basket playing with good set up men like Kane. And he is heading for a $9M qualifying offer next year and who knows how much one year later as a UFA, if they could even re-sign him then. (Same uncertainty as what Calgary is going thru now with Johnny Goudreau). That isn't rebuilding around a young player.

To start, what the Hawks need is a big #1 center and a wheelhorse defenceman with size and skating ability. (And size thru the lineup). They don't have the first one but maybe Korchinski fits the bill on the 2nd one. Long time before we will know,

And using my rationale about the financial commitment to ADB going forward, it makes sense to move Seth Jones now and deal with what will likely be a disappointing return. What purpose does it serve to pay him $9M for 8 years to play on a dead nuts loser for the first 3 or 4 years of that deal?
- RickJ

Solid logic and i can't argue with any of that. I didn't take into consideration the $9m qualifying offer.

My thinking is more along the lines that 40g scorers don't grow on trees and the Blackhawks were lucky to have one in his prime. Paying him $9m+ wouldn't be an issue when the Toews and Kane contracts come off the books. Granted, not sure exactly how or when that will happen, but I suspect both will be gone pretty soon, especially Kane.

If anything, you get rid of Jones now to make room for Cat. Jones was a bad deal the day it was signed and the Hawks will have to retain some salary to move that contract, but it would be worth it to keep a legit sniper in his prime.

As a Tampa fan, I see what's happening to the Hawks now as a preview of the Lightning's future - a deep dynastic team transitioning into full rebuild mode.

I am still puzzled by the no name that we gave up a 2023 pick for to the Pens. Has anyone seen a club explanation for that move?
Seems like a wasted pick for us and Pens fans were pleased with that deal. Most of them did not know who the guy was.
- 67hawks

Also on this point kind of, while this one was a bit questionable, the trading of one of their 3rd this year for one next year was a great move.

Solid logic and i can't argue with any of that. I didn't take into consideration the $9m qualifying offer.

My thinking is more along the lines that 40g scorers don't grow on trees and the Blackhawks were lucky to have one in his prime. Paying him $9m+ wouldn't be an issue when the Toews and Kane contracts come off the books. Granted, not sure exactly how or when that will happen, but I suspect both will be gone pretty soon, especially Kane.

If anything, you get rid of Jones now to make room for Cat. Jones was a bad deal the day it was signed and the Hawks will have to retain some salary to move that contract, but it would be worth it to keep a legit sniper in his prime.

As a Tampa fan, I see what's happening to the Hawks now as a preview of the Lightning's future - a deep dynastic team transitioning into full rebuild mode.
- GalacticStone

No offense, but I hope it kicks in quicker than you think, and they finish with the 11th worse record for the next two years...........