I'd like to hear more about how the Deangelo trade came about...He was a RFA who had permission from Carolina to shop his services. Were there any other teams interested in his services at all, or did he sell Fletcher on this?

Actually haven't they positioned themselves to be pretty bad?

I'm optimistic we get some timely injuries.
- DrMidnite

They’ve done nothing to replace Giroux or get better on defense so as of right now, yes, expect another tire fire.

Lot of the Russian players falling into the third plus rounds.

Wonder why they didn't do an offer sheet? As wouldn't be cheaper compensation wise?

Oh my bad had no picks...

There’s no way this is the dumbest thing you’ve seen today if you truly live in Gilbert, AZ.
- ThirdEye

Yeah he has a reputation as a racist but he's not really a racist from what I can tell. He is, however, a huge dumbass.
- BINGO!

Who? CF?

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...gelo-to-Flyers/274/118050

Lot of the Russian players falling into the third plus rounds.
- Sinisalo4vr

Putin screwing over all these kids.

https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Ben-Shelley/Hurricanes-trade-Tony-DeAngelo-to-Flyers/274/118050
- DSmooth

This was the Canes blog that had the Canes fan poll of the trade.

How about Bill Ayres?
- Sinisalo4vr

Bill Ayres never had anywhere remotely near the official sanction of the sort enjoyed today by a certain side. The famed riots in Chicago, after all, were brutally put down by a Democrat, Richard Daley. Bobby prosecuted the Teamsters, all of whom were Dems.

And so on.

Give away all the draft picks! Who needs them?

My apologies. Youll have to forgive my blindass, i thought it was a different person
- THE BLACK HAND

I know who.

No no it’s all Dave Scott’s own idea. He doesn’t know a thing about hockey, but one night the ghost of Ed Snider came to him and said “We are one or two players away from being right back in it.”
- StepfordSam

No question!

Give away all the draft picks! Who needs them?
- SuperSchennBros

The amount they gave up for Risto and DeAngelo is absolutely absurd. I have no words for Fletch at this point.

The amount they gave up for Risto and DeAngelo is absolutely absurd. I have no words for Fletch at this point.
- hereticpride

what they gave up for Tony D is not a big deal at all. A proven 27 year old Dman who just put up 50+ points in back to back years (exclude his time out year) is well worth it.

This was the Canes blog that had the Canes fan poll of the trade.
- DSmooth

You realize there are like 5 of us on this website right?

The amount they gave up for Risto and DeAngelo is absolutely absurd. I have no words for Fletch at this point.
- hereticpride

Not if your primary intent is to create a spectacle, and provide entertainment that is not correlated in any way with results, is it?

Interesting how ruthlessly pragmatic some teams are. McDonagh has 1 bad playoffs, after 2 great ones. Out he goes. I assume Killorn will follow somehow.

KK has 1 period as anything other than 4C, they see enough, he gets 8 years!

Tony D has a pretty decent season on paper. They see something they don't like, and out he goes.

Imagine if a Flyers team had lost in 7 in 2nd round with their backup goaltender as an excuse. There would have been NO changes to a guy with TD's stats.

what they gave up for Tony D is not a big deal at all. A proven 27 year old Dman who just put up 50+ points in back to back years (exclude his time out year) is well worth it.
- hello it's me 2050

He’ll be lucky to crack 30 on this roster. And it’s a two year deal on a team nowhere near competing.

You continue to embarrass yourself with a lack of knowledge of how the salary cap works. Only in your world does adding a player at a cap hit of 5M gain the team 1M in cap space. Must be the new math.

He pretty much is. Remember what you said? Fletcher isn't going to give up future draft picks to win now. The team approach has changed. What were you told? Now here you are green lighting Fletcher's move. Just as predicted.
- MJL

Now for a reality check, let's see if we can bring you back from planet Delusia. Ellis is DONE! Fletcher does not make this move unless Ellis is not coming back. Therefore Ellis' $6.25M cap hit is put on LTIR, which is where it is right now. Once again Fletcher is left with a gaping hole in his 1st defensive pairing and in need of a RHS defenseman, and NO ONE in the system ready to take on that role. DeAngelo slots into that spot at $5M very nicely, and by doing so saves Fletcher $1.25M in cap space for that slot (simple math, $6.25M - $5M = $1.25M).

I never said I was happy with this move, never not once! I was hoping Fletcher would not trade picks for players, but in this case I am not sure what else he could have done, unless of course you want him to go into next season with a gaping hole in his first defensive pairing? Fletcher's job is on the line, that was made clear by Scott in the mid season presser. Fletcher is going to ice the best team he can for himself, and his new coach Torts. My only hope is that Torts can get DeAngelo to play the way he wants him to, and do so without any internal issues that have plagues DeAngelo in the past. If DeAngelo plays the way he is capable, this could very well turn our great for the Flyers, especially given Ellis' condition. However there is also a lot of risk here.

DeAngelo, I like the skill, he meets the need of high end skill, huge cost. An optimist would say, look at the hit rate of the picks the last 5 years and how can you know you really passed on high end talent with the picks. That said, skill level for kids coming in keeps going up. I heard AD on a hot mic a few times during the playoffs, he is an instigator, on one hand that is good and the Flyers need that, on the other I do think the guy is a little to cocky and I can see why he had some issues. I hope he matures and finds a balance. A 2 year deal, just in time to flip him and try to get the picks back, LOL.

The Flyers need to move JVR quick or whoever quick, being over the cap and trying to move cap is no Bueno. My sense is the Flyers might do something similar to the Canes, move a player with cap for picks and not much Cap coming back

hey, maybe they are shopping Risto

Really good offensive player. Really bad defensive player. Meh on the PP.
- Tomahawk

Whatever could you possibly mean? Based on what I’ve read around here today, Ellis isn’t coming back and Fletcher just singlehandedly improved our defense with a great guy! We’re saved!

(1) Third rounder, (1) 4th rounder (3) second round picks, (1) first rounder, Ghost, Hagg, NoPa and Myers for Ellis, Risto and DeAngelo who carry a combined $16mil in cap hit.

Would they really be a lot worse off if they had just done nothing?

He’ll be lucky to crack 30 on this roster. And it’s a two year deal on a team nowhere near competing.
- hereticpride

The deal itself is fine.

You and others need to realize there is no rebuild coming. They are "trying" to win. Look at this move in that context only.

what they gave up for Tony D is not a big deal at all. A proven 27 year old Dman who just put up 50+ points in back to back years (exclude his time out year) is well worth it.
- hello it's me 2050

Agreed, a 4th in this year's weak draft is nothing, and the Flyers had multiple 3rd round picks in next year's draft, so giving up one of them doesn't hurt that much. The 2nd in 2024 was a bit much for a player you could have signed next week, albeit possibly for more money. Still DeAngelo would have been a top 10 scoring defenseman had he played closer to 80 games, while also being a +30 (his partner Slavin was slightly better at +35), that is nothing to sneeze at!

He’ll be lucky to crack 30 on this roster. And it’s a two year deal on a team nowhere near competing.
- hereticpride

He’ll get at least 20-25 on the PP.