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david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Jul 7 @ 5:36 PM ET
What if he doesn’t sign an extension and is gone next year?
- neem55


I guess they trade him as an RFA.
Bartacus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.08.2019

Jul 7 @ 5:36 PM ET
Two birds, one stone: Zaitsev for Rasmus Ristolainen
- Tomahawk


Oof. That RR contract is a tough pill to swallow. I'd rather they give some of that money to a Zub extension and let Thomson have a shot.
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Jul 7 @ 5:37 PM ET
Myers is just as bad as Zeitsev....
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jul 7 @ 5:37 PM ET
If he is gone in 1-2 years when you could have signed Giroux for no assets......man oh man....
- Kevin Francis

Debrincat is 24 though. It’s a great move if you can convince him to sign a 3-4 year extension. Not a bad gamble.
SensFan25
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 08.24.2006

Jul 7 @ 5:37 PM ET
Blog is updated with a D target.....Dorion is talking to Vancouver again! Be sure to check out the blog.
- Kevin Francis

Uh oh.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 7 @ 5:37 PM ET
What if he doesn’t sign an extension and is gone next year?
- neem55


Players want to win. If Sens have a good year, players buy into the team and will want to be here. So team will do its best to negotiate a fair contract. If they can't get a contract done, they do their best to move the player for the best return (this is the situation Calgary is in today with Matthew Tkachuk).

If the player is not a good fit you are happy to see him go after two yers.
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jul 7 @ 5:37 PM ET
Biggest thing to me is that the roster is better at tonight than it was this morning. The picks are meh in a meh draft. Obviously Debrincat was a 2nd rounder himself but he is a great winger that can play now and can score.

The money issues can't be ignored in Ottawa but who knows, maybe a page is turning. We've had good arena news, Alfie got into the Hall, and now have acquired a legitimate winger.

Let's be real, if the Sens are going to be successful, it needs to be in the next few years and should start now. There is still a lot of work to do but I can't help be see this move as a single entity, a positive move.
Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

Jul 7 @ 5:38 PM ET
your an idiot pure and simple, paying 7th OA, 39th OA and a 3rd for 1-1.5 years of a guy is pure stupidity, proly just as bad as the murray to Buff trade
- Mithos

At the end of the day, you have to make your team a place where good players are going to want to play, even if they're not locked down on a >6yr contract. Regardless of what you think of DeBrincat, I'll give Dorion credit for setting a new bar for the on-ice expectations... they've got 1.5yrs to prove to a guy like DeBrincat that he's got a chance to win in Ottawa, and wants to be a big part of the team going forward. This is also the kind of move that could incent quality UFA, by putting money where the mouth is regarding a serious playoff run. If it eventually does help to attract a player like Giroux or maybe a top-4 D-man, it will be hard to view it in such a negative light.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 7 @ 5:39 PM ET
Sens better not Nucks out by taking that boat anchor Myers without Vancouver having to cough up serious compensation... Myers sucks ..
spazzbot
Location: Maple Zombie
Joined: 02.14.2013

Jul 7 @ 5:40 PM ET
What if he doesn’t sign an extension and is gone next year?
- neem55


Worst case is arbitration 2023/24 sign him ,then trade by deadline for likely a 1st rounder +
Best case puts up big numbers and lock him in at 9 or less

Either way not much to worry about and the only real cost was this years 7. And that they can easily afford this year.

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 7 @ 5:41 PM ET
Biggest thing to me is that the roster is better at tonight than it was this morning. The picks are meh in a meh draft. Obviously Debrincat was a 2nd rounder himself but he is a great winger that can play now and can score.

The money issues can't be ignored in Ottawa but who knows, maybe a page is turning. We've had good arena news, Alfie got into the Hall, and now have acquired a legitimate winger.

Let's be real, if the Sens are going to be successful, it needs to be in the next few years and should start now. There is still a lot of work to do but I can't help be see this move as a single entity, a positive move.

- Gord_Wilson_2.0


A++++++++
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 7 @ 5:43 PM ET
Sens better not Nucks out by taking that boat anchor Myers without Vancouver having to cough up serious compensation... Myers sucks ..
- dozerD10


just reporting from sources....I also do know Florida has been calling Dorion today....trying to find out what they are thinking....
Bartacus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.08.2019

Jul 7 @ 5:44 PM ET
"The Canucks are looking to shed dollars on their payroll for JT Miller. Ottawa would most likely have to include a 1st round pick in 2023 plus a defensive prospect I'm told"

This kind of logic worries me. It factored into the the Zaitsev trade where we sent a 3rd round sweetener to get Brown: Canucks need to shed salary to sign somebody. That's called doing them a favour. I'd give them JBD alone, zero picks for a 32 year old middling defender. "Would HAVE to include a first rounder"? Benning is high. Gimme a break.
Bartacus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.08.2019

Jul 7 @ 5:45 PM ET
just reporting from sources....I also do know Florida has been calling Dorion today....trying to find out what they are thinking....
- Kevin Francis


Hope it is Weegar. Now that's a player.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 7 @ 5:48 PM ET
just reporting from sources....I also do know Florida has been calling Dorion today....trying to find out what they are thinking....
- Kevin Francis


Interesting. The first thing I thought of when I heard that Duclair was going to be out most of the season was, perhaps the Panthers might be calling about Joseph, Formenton and some other speed players in the Ottawa system. Connor Brown?
HoweHatrick
Joined: 01.02.2014

Jul 7 @ 5:49 PM ET
PD just did something many of you have been moaning for him to do for a season or two. The Sens just acquired a 25 year old, pure skill, 40G RW in his prime under contract and own his RFA rights.

It is painfully apparent that there are people on here will never be happy with anything PD does as the Sens GM. It is sad to see individuals a fan base that put their dislike of PD ahead of anything else.
Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

Jul 7 @ 5:49 PM ET
Myers is just as bad as Zeitsev....
- Mithos

Holy good God, if Dorion sends a 1st round pick to Vancouver for Myers, he will have quickly undone what is the most positive trade he's made in a very long time. There's simply NO WAY that Tyler Myers at age 32 is worth a 1st round pick from any NHL team, let alone a team who's yet to make it out of the bottom-10 in the league in half a decade. Who on EARTH is setting that kind of value expectation, the same guy who thought Hamonic was worth a 3rd? That guy needs to go.

Dorion: you did good, now just go have a couple beers at Bare Fax, and chill for the rest of the day. Don't get all worked up and let the "big-body" voices in your head take over again.

Zaitsev + 1st round pick >>> Myers.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jul 7 @ 5:50 PM ET
"The Canucks are looking to shed dollars on their payroll for JT Miller. Ottawa would most likely have to include a 1st round pick in 2023 plus a defensive prospect I'm told"

This kind of logic worries me. It factored into the the Zaitsev trade where we sent a 3rd round sweetener to get Brown: Canucks need to shed salary to sign somebody. That's called doing them a favour. I'd give them JBD alone, zero picks for a 32 year old middling defender. "Would HAVE to include a first rounder"? Benning is high. Gimme a break.

- Bartacus

You are high...Benning is not the Canucks GM
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Jul 7 @ 5:51 PM ET
Biggest thing to me is that the roster is better at tonight than it was this morning. The picks are meh in a meh draft. Obviously Debrincat was a 2nd rounder himself but he is a great winger that can play now and can score.

The money issues can't be ignored in Ottawa but who knows, maybe a page is turning. We've had good arena news, Alfie got into the Hall, and now have acquired a legitimate winger.

Let's be real, if the Sens are going to be successful, it needs to be in the next few years and should start now. There is still a lot of work to do but I can't help be see this move as a single entity, a positive move.

- Gord_Wilson_2.0


They need to leap frog one of the 8 from this year to get in. I do think there is a window there as some teams are getting older, have injuries.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 7 @ 5:51 PM ET
Holy good God, if Dorion sends a 1st round pick to Vancouver for Myers, he will have quickly undone what is the most positive trade he's made in a very long time. There's simply NO WAY that Tyler Myers at age 32 is worth a 1st round pick from any NHL team, let alone a team who's yet to make it out of the bottom-10 in the league in half a decade. Who on EARTH is setting that kind of value expectation, the same guy who thought Hamonic was worth a 3rd? That guy needs to go.

Zaitsev + 1st round pick >>> Myers.

- khawk


I agree. Tony D'Angelo is available for a 2nd round pick.
Bartacus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.08.2019

Jul 7 @ 5:52 PM ET
You are high...Benning is not the Canucks GM
- carsonagenic


Allvin then. Doesn't matter who is making the call there, that's bonkers.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 7 @ 5:52 PM ET
Blog updated again! 3 D that Dorion is targeting.....he wants a deal done tonight!
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jul 7 @ 5:52 PM ET
Allvin then. Doesn't matter who is making the call there, that's bonkers.
- Bartacus

I agree, if Dorian does this...
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 7 @ 5:52 PM ET
I agree. Tony D'Angelo is available for a 2nd round pick.
- spatso



Not a chance in hell.....that is one thing this team does, they don't bring in problems....it would be like trading for Brendan Lemieux in LA!
Bartacus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.08.2019

Jul 7 @ 5:53 PM ET
I agree. Tony D'Angelo is available for a 2nd round pick.
- spatso


If that's true we should be calling the Canes immediately.
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