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HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 7 @ 3:03 PM ET
Not ready to move on from Dach yet man slow down ,kid was showing some real promise then got derailed with some injuries and rushed far to quickly. I guess if you get a top ten and a game ready prospect maybe ,guess everyone has a price .
- oldduffman


I'm with you. Not ready to move on from him but I suppose we'll see if KD and company are and this is how he get's a top 10 pick back that was lost in the Jones deal.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jul 7 @ 3:03 PM ET
Scott Powers from the Athletic is reporting that the pick must be in the top 15 in order for the Hawks to consider the trade proposal for Dach.

If it's in the top 7, then a 1 for 1 trade may be fine but personally I would want an additional asset if the pick is in the 8-15 range. Call me greedy.

- Theo Fox


Its the same situation as Debrincat or anyone else.

Where do they actually value the player? If they think that after the last few years and everything else that he doesn't fit then he doesn't fit.

I'd move Debrincat for a top 5 pick a 2023 first and a highly thought of asset. I don't think that everyone would agree that is a fair price.

Moving Dach to move Dach and capitalize on whatever value is left may be a good decision and it may bite them in the ass. If he continues to tread water then getting a first seems like good value. If he scores 20 goals next year its maybe an oops.

Not like they can get much worse. At least it'll be entertaining if they go a little nuts shuffling the deck.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jul 7 @ 3:04 PM ET
Why trade for Dylan when you can have Ryan as a UFA?
- LAHawk


Why trade for Dylan when you can wait a few months and if you still need to add a center you can just do it at the end of summer.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 7 @ 3:04 PM ET
It is hard to take seriously the negative positions of people who had continuously complained during the Golden Era of Hawks hockey. It's like the story of the little boy who cried Wolfie.

That said, I agree with you about KD. I am emotionally ready for the pain of the next several years. Many here say they are; but will be flopping around in their wet diapers by year two, moaning about KD The Moron.

- mohel


True.

Afa KD goes? He's got til tonite!
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 7 @ 3:06 PM ET
John Dietz is saying things are “really starting to heat up” for Kirby Dach with the Wings and Jackets in play as the Hawks hope to get a 1st round pick for him.

Would be a blunder by KD IMO as we’d be selling him way low.

- TommyHawk


This is just silly
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 7 @ 3:08 PM ET
Did i miss the Cat trade yet?
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 7 @ 3:10 PM ET
Scott Powers from the Athletic is reporting that the pick must be in the top 15 in order for the Hawks to consider the trade proposal for Dach.

If it's in the top 7, then a 1 for 1 trade may be fine but personally I would want an additional asset if the pick is in the 8-15 range. Call me greedy.

- Theo Fox


Nothing wrong with greedy, Theo!

I wouldn't know as well as KD, but I'm not ready to dump Dach yet. He actually tries to play in three zones, and I'd like to see what a stable coaching situation does for him.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 7 @ 3:10 PM ET
Curious to see if Joe can sign Georgiev for 4yrs at $3 per? What a great move
SaskHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SK
Joined: 05.18.2014

Jul 7 @ 3:10 PM ET
Did i miss the Cat trade yet?
- BetweenTheDots


Buttheadman will want the show at the draft. Can't sew any announcements till tonight
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 7 @ 3:12 PM ET
Great move by Sakic, low risk high reward
- BetweenTheDots


Not sure if it shows balls or out of pure necessity. Seems Kuemper was too expensive so Sakic will roll the dice and defend the cup with Francouz and Georgiev, who is an RFA arbitration eligible, as they battle for the net.

Sakic is probably gonna lose Kadri but maybe with so little spent in goal he can keep Nichuskin or Lehkonen or Burakovsky?

Also sends Kuemper to market.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jul 7 @ 3:14 PM ET
Scott Powers from the Athletic is reporting that the pick must be in the top 15 in order for the Hawks to consider the trade proposal for Dach.

If it's in the top 7, then a 1 for 1 trade may be fine but personally I would want an additional asset if the pick is in the 8-15 range. Call me greedy.

- Theo Fox

Your spot on and for dcat top 10 pick plus a lot more unless it the 2nd overall pick. Imo I think Ottawa or Buffalo make a big offer to land dcat.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jul 7 @ 3:16 PM ET
It is hard to take seriously the negative positions of people who had continuously complained during the Golden Era of Hawks hockey. It's like the story of the little boy who cried Wolfie.

That said, I agree with you about KD. I am emotionally ready for the pain of the next several years. Many here say they are; but will be flopping around in their wet diapers by year two, moaning about KD The Moron.

- mohel
all depends on the returns and if kd sticks to his guns and his vision on the rebuild.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 7 @ 3:17 PM ET
Did i miss the Cat trade yet?
- BetweenTheDots


Powers tweeted that a source said a Cat trade today is 50-50.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 7 @ 3:17 PM ET
Not sure if it shows balls or out of pure necessity. Seems Kuemper was too expensive so Sakic will roll the dice and defend the cup with Francouz and Georgiev, who is an RFA arbitration eligible, as they battle for the net.

Sakic is probably gonna lose Kadri but maybe with so little spent in goal he can keep Nichuskin or Lehkonen or Burakovsky?

Also sends Kuemper to market.

- Mr Ricochet


Georgiev will win it, he may be on the smaller side but he's way more talented than any goalie they've had in the last so many years. He was winning games for a bad Rangers team. This may actually bite the Rangers in the ass one year if they face the Avs in the finals.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 7 @ 3:19 PM ET
someone explain to me in hockey terms why kirby dach is being peddled.
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 7 @ 3:20 PM ET
Powers tweeted that a source said a Cat trade today is 50-50.
- boilermaker100


So it will happen, or it won't? Haha
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 7 @ 3:21 PM ET
all depends on the returns and if kd sticks to his guns and his vision on the rebuild.
- Scott1977


I don't think - for some - the return matters; tolerating the suckage of the next several years will be hard for some to take. KD and Luke are in for a beating here, imo.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 7 @ 3:23 PM ET
John Dietz is saying things are “really starting to heat up” for Kirby Dach with the Wings and Jackets in play as the Hawks hope to get a 1st round pick for him.

Would be a blunder by KD IMO as we’d be selling him way low.

- TommyHawk


This is enough to scare the hell out of a fan. Are they selling low or high on Dach right now? Is he at best a 3C in management's mind? If so is say the 15th overall good value? ........ I'll say this if DET is dangling the 8th the Hawks have some hard thinking to do.


That said I'm a Dach guy until he plays 350ish games and proves he's not a 2C.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 7 @ 3:23 PM ET
someone explain to me in hockey terms why kirby dach is being peddled.
- TheSabresTaco


Because he didn't make the final three for the Hart trophy.
35Tony0
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Springfield, IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Jul 7 @ 3:25 PM ET
someone explain to me in hockey terms why kirby dach is being peddled.
- TheSabresTaco

As always, in trade, it's all about what each team gets from the trade.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 7 @ 3:26 PM ET
Because he didn't make the final three for the Hart trophy.
- mohel


I mean it seems like everyone likes him here and your media guys like him. Seems strange. Very atypical of a rebuilding team to peddle an ELC player, especially one who was picked third OA.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jul 7 @ 3:26 PM ET
someone explain to me in hockey terms why kirby dach is being peddled.
- TheSabresTaco

Because he’s hot garbage at center 🤷🏻‍♂️
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 7 @ 3:26 PM ET
This is enough to scare the hell out of a fan. Are they selling low or high on Dach right now? Is he at best a 3C in management's mind? If so is say the 15th overall good value? ........ I'll say this if DET is dangling the 8th the Hawks have some hard thinking to do.


That said I'm a Dach guy until he plays 350ish games and proves he's not a 2C.

- Mr Ricochet


If Stevie Y is offering the 8th pick, doesn't that tell us that Dach is going to be a star?
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 7 @ 3:27 PM ET
Tweet from Al Cimaglia...

If the mission is to get a 1st rounder for tonight or bust. That can happen by trading a recent 1st rd pick. I heard toward the end of the season that some veterans were not loving Dach's attitude. So if things stall on the Cat front, I wouldn't be surprised if Dach goes.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 7 @ 3:27 PM ET
Because he’s hot garbage at center 🤷🏻‍♂️
- Assman22


I guess almost everyone likes him. Leave it to the assman!
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