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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 7 @ 10:18 AM ET
I wonder what a Garland/Hughes trade to the devils fetch.?

2nd, Ty Smith, Zacha plus?

- onesmallleap

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 7 @ 10:19 AM ET
Somewhere Lordy be like……

- Shuswap Wap



Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 7 @ 10:20 AM ET
Old school Bruce pushing for him to stay now according to EK.
- manvanfan

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 7 @ 10:21 AM ET
Many experts in here.
- Marwood



The 'experts' when Miller suits up for Boudreau on Line 1...

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 7 @ 10:22 AM ET
Old school Bruce pushing for him to stay now according to EK.
- manvanfan

Ya heard that too very good to see Boudreau saying it. As it should be. He knows what the team needs and where it's at.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jul 7 @ 10:28 AM ET
Classic Canuck fan whining about doing things differently and here Ovi, Tarasenko, Vasi, Nuchushkin all winning cups after being picked in the first round.
- manvanfan

Whining?
The world is a little different at that moment there Mini, You might not see that from the Utopia of Manitoba.
I'm not saying don't draft any Russians this year,
I'm not saying don't draft any Russians ever.
I'm saying why, at 15 OA when there are many other choices to take, would you risk taking a Russian player in this political climate, that is over there, and getting limited ice time like Podz did?
Why risk a possible public relations hassle if he can't come over? Why even have to field these questions all. Draft a D man and call it good.
And remember I was one of a few that was calling for Nichuskin to be a Canuck when he was still Dallas property, so don't try and paint me as some anti-Russian guy...
My wife is Russian!
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Jul 7 @ 10:28 AM ET
I heard the Naval base team needed a goalie and Putin got them one. (Fedetov is actually going to play goal for them)
- manvanfan

Lol
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Jul 7 @ 10:33 AM ET
Yurov looks to be real good, and besides, you can't have to many Danilas 😷
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jul 7 @ 10:35 AM ET


The 'experts' when Miller suits up for Boudreau on Line 1...


- LordHumungous


You make it seem that most in here don't like Miller. To me I love Miller and don't want to see him go. However, age, and the contract to come might set this franchise back over the term. In a perfect non cap world where signing soon to be 30 year olds to long terms makes sense, go for it. But to a team like the Canucks, that are not ready to compete for a Cup, are cap strapped, and have a poor farm system, is he right player at the right time? That is really the only question to be answered.
Not is he tough, scores, etc. He is one of if not our best players at the moment, its not a case of not liking the player. Just the wrong time in the teams cycle.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 7 @ 10:36 AM ET
Whinning?
The world is a little different at that moment there Mini, You might not see that from the Utopia of Manitoba.
I'm not saying don't draft any Russians this year,
I'm not saying don't draft any Russians ever.
I'm saying why, at 15 OA when there are many other choices to take, would you risk taking a Russian player in this political climate, that is over there, and getting limited ice time like Podz did?
Why risk a possible public relations hassle if he can't come over? Why even have to field these questions all. Draft a D man and call it good.
And remember I was one of a few that was calling for Nichuskin to be a Canuck when he was still Dallas property, so don't try and paint me as some anti-Russian guy...
My wife is Russian!

- carsonagenic

You are right you aren't saying don't do it, just when its convenient for you. While other teams are saying I'll take that risk to win a cup and have.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jul 7 @ 10:39 AM ET
Old school Bruce pushing for him to stay now according to EK.
- manvanfan

Well last night he had the NYR deal as an E4. Ek just does this. Predicts every outcome so he can claim he was right.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 7 @ 10:40 AM ET
You make it seem that most in here don't like Miller. To me I love Miller and don't want to see him go. However, age, and the contract to come might set this franchise back over the term. In a perfect non cap world where signing soon to be 30 year olds to long terms makes sense, go for it. But to a team like the Canucks, that are not ready to compete for a Cup, are cap strapped, and have a poor farm system, is he right player at the right time? That is really the only question to be answered.
Not is he tough, scores, etc. He is one of if not our best players at the moment, its not a case of not liking the player. Just the wrong time in the teams cycle.

- carsonagenic

It's not really a question of 'like'. Most folks know how valuable Miller currently is to the club. I just don't think this massive 'haul and return' for Miller is there at Present. 2023 is a WAY better draft might be best just to hang on to JT until next years TDL if the club is out of it. Regardless no amount of picks or players will satisfy the majority here. The 'full rebuild' group wants the Kings ransom for Miller which is fine if we get it...but then will whine about the 2-4 year process to get the club back up to speed. Either way...we're screwed lol
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jul 7 @ 10:40 AM ET
Ya heard that too very good to see Boudreau saying it. As it should be. He knows what the team needs and where it's at.
- LordHumungous

Or he knows what the potential return is in current deals and it’s not close to being what he’s worth. You only trade him if the deal is a good return. Nothing I’ve heard from NY is close.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 7 @ 10:43 AM ET
Or he knows what the potential return is in current deals and it’s not close to being what he’s worth. You only trade him if the deal is a good return. Nothing I’ve heard from NY is close.
- TurdFergeson

Correct. If the WAS and NYR offers were actually on the table at last TDL there is no way those offers will be bettered at the draft or this summer. The biggest haul would most likely had to have taken place then. I agree with Boudreau he needs to stay. At least see what we have next season with a full roster.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jul 7 @ 10:44 AM ET
You are right you aren't saying don't do it, just when its convenient for you. While other teams are saying I'll take that risk to win a cup and have.
- manvanfan

For me?...
I forgot that there was a war.... or special military action going on when all those other players you posted were drafted, and some despotic ruler was invading Europe and making new rules as he goes along.
Sorry Grand Caravan of Friendly Manitoba.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jul 7 @ 10:45 AM ET
It's not really a question of 'like'. Most folks know how valuable Miller currently is to the club. I just don't think this massive 'haul and return' for Miller is there at Present. 2023 is a WAY better draft might be best just to hang on to JT until next years TDL if the club is out of it. Regardless no amount of picks or players will satisfy the majority here. The 'full rebuild' group wants the Kings ransom for Miller which is fine if we get it...but then will whine about the 2-4 year process to get the club back up to speed. Either way...we're screwed lol
- LordHumungous

Now you got it! We are screwed
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 7 @ 10:49 AM ET
You make it seem that most in here don't like Miller. To me I love Miller and don't want to see him go. However, age, and the contract to come might set this franchise back over the term. In a perfect non cap world where signing soon to be 30 year olds to long terms makes sense, go for it. But to a team like the Canucks, that are not ready to compete for a Cup, are cap strapped, and have a poor farm system, is he right player at the right time? That is really the only question to be answered.
Not is he tough, scores, etc. He is one of if not our best players at the moment, its not a case of not liking the player. Just the wrong time in the teams cycle.

- carsonagenic

Well said.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 7 @ 10:50 AM ET
For me?...
I forgot that there was a war.... or special military action going on when all those other players you posted were drafted, and some despotic ruler was invading Europe and making new rules as he goes along.
Sorry Grand Caravan of Friendly Manitoba.

- carsonagenic

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Wtf.... its supposed to be a guy whistling because you went on a huge rant about how the team has operated and now you are making excuses.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 7 @ 10:52 AM ET
You make it seem that most in here don't like Miller. To me I love Miller and don't want to see him go. However, age, and the contract to come might set this franchise back over the term. In a perfect non cap world where signing soon to be 30 year olds to long terms makes sense, go for it. But to a team like the Canucks, that are not ready to compete for a Cup, are cap strapped, and have a poor farm system, is he right player at the right time? That is really the only question to be answered.
Not is he tough, scores, etc. He is one of if not our best players at the moment, its not a case of not liking the player. Just the wrong time in the teams cycle.

- carsonagenic


Well said.

👏👏👏👏
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 7 @ 10:53 AM ET
It's not really a question of 'like'. Most folks know how valuable Miller currently is to the club. I just don't think this massive 'haul and return' for Miller is there at Present. 2023 is a WAY better draft might be best just to hang on to JT until next years TDL if the club is out of it. Regardless no amount of picks or players will satisfy the majority here. The 'full rebuild' group wants the Kings ransom for Miller which is fine if we get it...but then will whine about the 2-4 year process to get the club back up to speed. Either way...we're screwed lol
- LordHumungous

You will get significantly more for Miller if you trade him with a full year of his current cap hit. Imagine Vancouver hanging on to him only for him to get injured in February, and then walking in the summer, that would be disasterous.

Trade him now, but make sure the 1st rounder you get back is for next year.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 7 @ 10:55 AM ET
Well said.
- Marwood


carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jul 7 @ 10:56 AM ET
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Wtf.... its supposed to be a guy whistling because you went on a huge rant about how the team has operated and now you are making excuses.

- manvanfan

GFY
What excuses?
Please Canucks, don't take a Russian at 15 IMO it is not smrt.
Is that good enough for you now, Grand Caravan?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 7 @ 10:57 AM ET
GFY
- carsonagenic

carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jul 7 @ 11:00 AM ET

- Marwood

Draft Day Hate
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 7 @ 11:01 AM ET
Yurov at 15 for the Canucks
- onesmallleap

LMFAO
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