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wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 6 @ 9:00 PM ET
Just for once I’d like to see the moves work out well and set us up for a successful season. Seems we’re always cursed
- Hextall271


I think they will be relatively healthy this season, not sure that is good or bad . Cf needs some magic to retool, if he is going to retool, I hope for the best
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 6 @ 9:11 PM ET
The stats seem to back up the highlights. I’ve never been a fan of taking the best player on the board. Go by need and right now we need a high skilled center with top 6 potential or a top pair, all situations defenseman.
- SuperSchennBros

Not surprised
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 6 @ 9:12 PM ET
No Giroux back to Philly rumors?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 6 @ 9:14 PM ET
Losing both in the same offseason would be rough. They'll get significant assets for Tkachuk, but still. I was looking at career stats for Briere and St Louis. Briere's had really good production until age 34. St Louis scored 20 goals at age 39. My point is I would expect JG to age similiarly well. So an expectation of a minimum of 5 yrs of really good production.
- Trox88


I like his game. We def need the injection of skill. What we do miss is a pure sniper scorer as well. One piece at a time I guess. To me, this is the most exciting time for reshaping your team. Draft and ufa is where you build the team. Again, I want him to keep the picks and prospects. Trades and ufa as long as we’re not hamstrung for decades on bad contracts
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jul 6 @ 9:19 PM ET
Good post. I think Cooley stays 2 years of college. Not sure on Nazar.

Any thoughts on Devin Kaplan By chance?

- furio16


Everyone I talk to in Minny says Cooley will be one and done. But you never know.

I haven’t seen much film of Kaplan. But I’ve seen some scouting reports. Good size, tough forechecker and strong play along the boards. The bit of film looks like he’s not a great skater but not bad either. Most analysts say he’s a 2nd rounder with middle six potential and a 20 goal scorer who is reluctant to shoot. I’d like to hear your thoughts on him.


Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jul 6 @ 9:21 PM ET
I like his game. We def need the injection of skill. What we do miss is a pure sniper scorer as well. One piece at a time I guess. To me, this is the most exciting time for reshaping your team. Draft and ufa is where you build the team. Again, I want him to keep the picks and prospects. Trades and ufa as long as we’re not hamstrung for decades on bad contracts
- Hextall271


It s a big yr for Frost, Tippett, York and a lesser extent Cates. The first 3 got a real taste of the NHL. Time to prove they are viable contributors on a good team. I like Cates, but to have any expectations is just too soon.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 6 @ 9:29 PM ET
Everyone I talk to in Minny says Cooley will be one and done. But you never know.

I haven’t seen much film of Kaplan. But I’ve seen some scouting reports. Good size, tough forechecker and strong play along the boards. The bit of film looks like he’s not a great skater but not bad either. Most analysts say he’s a 2nd rounder with middle six potential and a 20 goal scorer who is reluctant to shoot. I’d like to hear your thoughts on him.

- Minnyhock

Seem him a lot over the years. I think he goes in the 3rd. Size, strength, and smooth player. Has the skill. Seems to be nicked up a lot. I think he will be an NHL player.

For Cooley I think he struggles little in college. Maybe not struggle though not as dominate as some may think.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 6 @ 9:30 PM ET
Like I said. It’s a done deal. He’s signing in Philly. 100%
- Stayin alive

I’ll take the bait. What makes you so sure?
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Jul 6 @ 9:39 PM ET
Ek says Flyers are interested in Wheeler.
Sounds like a typical CF move, give up a young player and a first round for an aged veteran.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jul 6 @ 9:52 PM ET
Seem him a lot over the years. I think he goes in the 3rd. Size, strength, and smooth player. Has the skill. Seems to be nicked up a lot. I think he will be an NHL player.

For Cooley I think he struggles little in college. Maybe not struggle though not as dominate as some may think.

- furio16


You could very well be right about Cooley. I read a local article today that he wants to feature his creative side. He’s a fan of Zegras and the Michigan. The Gophers play a tough schedule. He’ll be targeted physically by older players with size. It’s a good test for him and it won’t be easy. We’ll see.

furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 6 @ 9:57 PM ET
You could very well be right about Cooley. I read a local article today that he wants to feature his creative side. He’s a fan of Zegras and the Michigan. The Gophers play a tough schedule. He’ll be targeted physically by older players with size. It’s a good test for him and it won’t be easy. We’ll see.
- Minnyhock

You see any SJHL games by chance?
BenderRodriguez
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Norristown, PA
Joined: 01.19.2011

Jul 6 @ 10:04 PM ET
I’ll take the bait. What makes you so sure?
- Flyers1218


Don't encourage him.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jul 6 @ 10:19 PM ET
You see any SJHL games by chance?
- furio16


Never. That’s a long way away from me.

Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Jul 6 @ 10:51 PM ET
Ek says Flyers are interested in Wheeler.
Sounds like a typical CF move, give up a young player and a first round for an aged veteran.

- Buzzo


I always liked Wheeler but let's hope it's just rumors for the sake of rumors. Remember how many times the Flyers were in on Big Buff?
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jul 6 @ 10:57 PM ET
It s a big yr for Frost, Tippett, York and a lesser extent Cates. The first 3 got a real taste of the NHL. Time to prove they are viable contributors on a good team. I like Cates, but to have any expectations is just too soon.
- Trox88


THAT part of the upcoming season could be very fun to watch. Those three had great chemistry in the last few weeks of the season.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 7 @ 1:44 AM ET
I’ll take the bait. What makes you so sure?
- Flyers1218


I explained a few days ago

My friends wife is friends with jg wife. Jg wife was her daughters nurse about year ago and they got close.

Jg wife told her he’s coming back East. They talked and she wants to stay in Philly. He’s agreed with philly to come to flyers. It’s hush hush now but as of about week ago they have agreed on deal.

Obviously can’t be leaked through official channels yet.

Jg wife has no reason to lie to a friend.

She wasn’t told of any details other than that.

They’re expecting first child soon and we’re married a year ago. She’s from Philly too. Was big reason he chose Philly over other East teams like wash Bos devils ranger isle.

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 7 @ 2:04 AM ET
No Giroux back to Philly rumors?
- furio16

imagine giroux and johnny hockey on the same team we'll need to sign some thugs to even out the physicality on the ice
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 7 @ 6:27 AM ET
I explained a few days ago

My friends wife is friends with jg wife. Jg wife was her daughters nurse about year ago and they got close.

Jg wife told her he’s coming back East. They talked and she wants to stay in Philly. He’s agreed with philly to come to flyers. It’s hush hush now but as of about week ago they have agreed on deal.

Obviously can’t be leaked through official channels yet.

Jg wife has no reason to lie to a friend.

She wasn’t told of any details other than that.

They’re expecting first child soon and we’re married a year ago. She’s from Philly too. Was big reason he chose Philly over other East teams like wash Bos devils ranger isle.

- Stayin alive



Hopefully this.

Also heard (read) Tkchuck rumours , stemming from his contract demand. Philly not mentioned, but that would be a dream come true.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 7 @ 7:51 AM ET
I explained a few days ago

My friends wife is friends with jg wife. Jg wife was her daughters nurse about year ago and they got close.

Jg wife told her he’s coming back East. They talked and she wants to stay in Philly. He’s agreed with philly to come to flyers. It’s hush hush now but as of about week ago they have agreed on deal.

Obviously can’t be leaked through official channels yet.

Jg wife has no reason to lie to a friend.

She wasn’t told of any details other than that.

They’re expecting first child soon and we’re married a year ago. She’s from Philly too. Was big reason he chose Philly over other East teams like wash Bos devils ranger isle.

- Stayin alive


Any recent updates from the parties you mention? I am sure since you first broke the news things could have changed, bigger offer from Flames etc
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 7 @ 8:28 AM ET
I explained a few days ago

My friends wife is friends with jg wife. Jg wife was her daughters nurse about year ago and they got close.

Jg wife told her he’s coming back East. They talked and she wants to stay in Philly. He’s agreed with philly to come to flyers. It’s hush hush now but as of about week ago they have agreed on deal.

Obviously can’t be leaked through official channels yet.

Jg wife has no reason to lie to a friend.

She wasn’t told of any details other than that.

They’re expecting first child soon and we’re married a year ago. She’s from Philly too. Was big reason he chose Philly over other East teams like wash Bos devils ranger isle.

- Stayin alive

If this is even remotely true the Flyers have opened themselves to tampering charges and could get royally effed.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 7 @ 8:28 AM ET
The Flyers weren't a legit contender last off season. Which is why Fletcher went out and made the moves he did. They were not a few moves away.The same young players that we have right now were the ones we had last off season when Fletcher made his moves. How does who the coach is change if the team should do less or not?
- MJL

Attard, Brink and Cates were just signed out of college, Desnoyers is now ready to compete for a spot, Tippet came over in the trade for G, Hodgson was not on anyone's radar, Laczynski and Allison were hurt, Foerster and Wisdom were also hurt, so what are you talking about when you say we had the same young players last off season?? And I have not even mentioned Ratcliffe and Frost who were not ready last season either. We have a much deeper group of young players now than we did last season, and its not even close!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 7 @ 8:31 AM ET
Cutter Gauthier pick has grown on me.
- landros 2

I would not pick a winger in the top 5 if there a top defenseman and centers still on the board.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 7 @ 8:31 AM ET
Common Flyers... he should be there at 5th-overall... do it:




- Tomahawk

Not at 5! If the Flyers trade down to pick up a few extra picks then it makes sense.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 7 @ 8:34 AM ET
No Giroux back to Philly rumors?
- furio16

Let G rot in Florida with his mediocre .500 career coach Maurice!
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 7 @ 8:38 AM ET
Good analysis here of the draft prospects
https://www.sportsnet.ca/...list-for-the-draft-table/
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