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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 6 @ 11:40 AM ET
I wouldn't put anything past Fletcher but the Flyers already have issues with the defense. There better be a defenseman coming back if he does.
- MJL


Ek says Flyers in on Brent Burns!
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 6 @ 11:43 AM ET
Ek says Flyers in on Brent Burns!
- Tomahawk

Burns, Gaudreau, Debrincat......... it's like the pre salary cap era.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 6 @ 11:47 AM ET
Burns, Gaudreau, Debrincat......... it's like the pre salary cap era.
- rayc16


Pre salary cap might have been the last time the Flyers had a shot of being on Burns' 3-team trade list.

wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 6 @ 11:47 AM ET
Ek says Flyers in on Brent Burns!
- Tomahawk


26.5 million tied up on 3 D, ages 32, 35 and 37 WOW, all with NMC, 2 with a 3 team list and 1 none
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 6 @ 11:52 AM ET
Burns for Risto.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 6 @ 11:52 AM ET
26.5 million tied up on 3 D, ages 32, 35 and 37 WOW, all with NMC, 2 with a 3 team list and 1 none
- wcorvette


Pickles may have the worst contract in the NHL.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 6 @ 11:55 AM ET
Burns for Risto.
- Feanor


One of the few ways San Jose would actually manage to downgrade in their own end in a D for D swap for Burns

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 6 @ 11:58 AM ET
They would get some cap space, though.

Supposedly lots of teams around the league love Risto, so why not offer him up and hope.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 6 @ 12:07 PM ET
I have changed my mind on DeBrincat, with 2 years left on his contract, the Flyers can surely lower his value a good bit before they resign him
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Jul 6 @ 12:18 PM ET
I have changed my mind on DeBrincat, with 2 years left on his contract, the Flyers can surely lower his value a good bit before they resign him
- wcorvette


I think I follow your point, but if his numbers dip significantly in his two years here, then why would he have any interest in resigning with the Flyers as a UFA? As Bill laid out yesterday, the dangerous thing about getting involved with Debrincat is that he has all the leverage. And that, combined with the acquisition cost, makes him a risk the Flyers should simply stay away from.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 6 @ 12:21 PM ET
I think I follow your point, but if his numbers dip significantly in his two years here, then why would he have any interest in resigning with the Flyers as a UFA? As Bill laid out yesterday, the dangerous thing about getting involved with Debrincat is that he has all the leverage. And that, combined with the acquisition cost, makes him a risk the Flyers should simply stay away from.
- Big_E_88


just using facts to be sarcastic
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 6 @ 12:23 PM ET
The way I see it, even if the Flyers don't move either, they still have to add a defensemen. Can't go into the season with Risto being your top RHD. So they may need to add two.
- rayc16

Tyler Myers come on down..
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 6 @ 12:25 PM ET
I want them to draft high in 2023 but will they, even if they dont add? I really think most younger players will take a step forward this season, Coots, Hayes and Cam all have something to prove. With Torts, Hart will be better, no moves, I still think they finish out side the playoffs but pick in the teens, how does that help? We will be back to slow and grow. Only thing I think works, you play the team you have, hope Coots is back to being Coots, you unload him mid-season for a good return, then pray Hayes and Cam greats seasons and dump them anyway you can. Pray the 2nd half of the season you end up in the bottom 5-10 of the league.

If not, you might as well make smart FA adds and good hockey trades.

- wcorvette



I think you coined a new phrase here. "Slow and grow"
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 6 @ 12:28 PM ET
They would get some cap space, though.

Supposedly lots of teams around the league love Risto, so why not offer him up and hope.

- Feanor




I think last year before the deadline, his agent read the tea leaves and told him he needs to take the pay cut.
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Jul 6 @ 12:31 PM ET
just using facts to be sarcastic
- wcorvette


Gotcha. I agree that it is virtually a fact that his numbers would drop playing in Philly
wbroudy
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 6 @ 12:33 PM ET
If flyers want him I think he will go there. I doubt if devils offer 10 mill and flyers 9.5 that it will matter . There is a difference between south and north jersey as it relates to Philly and where jg grew up . Flyers need to lose cap $ to make it work
wbroudy
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 6 @ 12:34 PM ET
If he retires is there any sort of penalty for us?
- ClaudeFather


No penalty if he retires or goes on LTIL
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 6 @ 12:41 PM ET
They would get some cap space, though.

Supposedly lots of teams around the league love Risto, so why not offer him up and hope.

- Feanor


Unfortunately, the Flyers are at the top of the Teams That Love Risto list.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 6 @ 12:42 PM ET
I have changed my mind on DeBrincat, with 2 years left on his contract, the Flyers can surely lower his value a good bit before they resign him
- wcorvette



Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 6 @ 12:46 PM ET
I wouldn't put anything past Fletcher but the Flyers already have issues with the defense. There better be a defenseman coming back if he does.
- MJL


I personally wouldn’t trade either. Yea provy has struggled but I put that on management. He’s prob not an elite 1 a and needs a decent partner but I think he’s a 1b or 2. They don’t grow on trees either. Sanheim has progressed and I’d want to keep him.

What I will say is sure.. if we trade them they’ll dominate on another team.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 6 @ 12:47 PM ET
Ek says Flyers in on Brent Burns!
- Tomahawk


Dear god. I wonder if jvr is reading this as he’s packing his bags for his move to Arizona. I bet he can’t wait to play in an arena that can hold 500 fans and won’t be sold out. Haha
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 6 @ 12:49 PM ET
Unfortunately, the Flyers are at the top of the Teams That Love Risto list.
- Tomahawk


Is it a list of one?

I’ve been wondering a lot what the chances are that coots can rebound after the surgery. Doesn’t sound good at all. I’m hopeful that bee can make it back without lingering effects. What an offseason holy f.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 6 @ 12:53 PM ET
If flyers want him I think he will go there. I doubt if devils offer 10 mill and flyers 9.5 that it will matter . There is a difference between south and north jersey as it relates to Philly and where jg grew up . Flyers need to lose cap $ to make it work
- wbroudy


I think he’ll end up here too. I’m assuming north jersey bad and south jersey good? Haha.

I’ve been to Newark to see a game. My god it looked like a war zone. Right up until we got tot the rink. Man.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jul 6 @ 1:03 PM ET
So CSKA players were paying their way out of military service or something?
- Tomahawk


Prob propaganda from them. In the states you can buy out your contract in any branch.
BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Jul 6 @ 1:04 PM ET
I think he’ll end up here too. I’m assuming north jersey bad and south jersey good? Haha.

I’ve been to Newark to see a game. My god it looked like a war zone. Right up until we got tot the rink. Man.

- Hextall271


Night and day, for sure, as far as North and South Jersey. I grew up in SJ, moved from there 30 years or so ago, but have remained a die-hard Philly sports fan all these years. Great place SJ is to raise a family. I miss going to WAWA, though!
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