I agree with everything until the last two lines. I really don't feel like Dubas or Keefe see Sandin as 7th best. I think he's in the top 6 or he's an asset to be traded. They like him well enough to match and put him on the right rather than lose him for a pick that has a 5% chance of being a NHLer.

I don't doubt Sandin would love an OS. I just don't see a team being more in love with him them Dubas n Co.
- The Law

I don’t think he’s necessarily 7th best but if he’s not on the right he’s kind of stuck in the 7th spot and the the rumbling was he was unhappy about playing 7th. I’m certainly not saying it’s likely but unlike other rumours about Leafs, this one has some degree of possibility. I really like him and hope it all works out. I actually think most likely outcome is that they move Muzzin next year when he only has a partial NTC

Is Ek's ion radar some kind of new scouting technology?

I don’t think he’s necessarily 7th best but if he’s not on the right he’s kind of stuck in the 7th spot and the the rumbling was he was unhappy about playing 7th. I’m certainly not saying it’s likely but unlike other rumours about Leafs, this one has some degree of possibility. I really like him and hope it all works out. I actually think most likely outcome is that they move Muzzin next year when he only has a partial NTC
- Canada Cup

Wouldn't surprise me if Dubas is trying to get a first round pick in the draft for him

I don’t think he’s necessarily 7th best but if he’s not on the right he’s kind of stuck in the 7th spot and the the rumbling was he was unhappy about playing 7th. I’m certainly not saying it’s likely but unlike other rumours about Leafs, this one has some degree of possibility. I really like him and hope it all works out. I actually think most likely outcome is that they move Muzzin next year when he only has a partial NTC
- Canada Cup

I agree the way things line up Muzz is playing his last year ...unless he's dealt sooner. I think with a summer/camp Sandin can have a lot more success on the right ..if needed. Also with Muzz and Gio on the left there's destined to be a bunch of games on the left side.

Boqvist taken 10 picks in front of Sandin (and has shown better than him so far) just signed an extension at 3 x 2.6M.

Razzmoose gonna find a team to give him a whole bunch more?
- The Law

Also the Leafs could hire away all a team's staff just to (frank) them over. I wouldn't piss off MLSE just for Sandin.

Fifty still getting harassed in here by the Lollypop crew because he doesn't see things all blue and perfect.

Mods still moding with impunity.

Boards are worst than ever for hockey talk so I'll just pop in to try to stoke a conversation that doesn't involve ballsuckery or random non-related topics of devision and derision.

Nice alliteration. (skalapy for mod)


Trade:
Chychrun for Nylander + Mrazek + as needed. $6.7M in savings for Leafs.

Walk or trade for picks/prospects:
Campbell, Micheyev, Kerfoot, Holl, Kase, Blackwell and Muzzin (only if the above deal works)

= +$11.4M added to the $6.4M currently available + Nylander trade savings of $6.7M

=~$24.5M is Cap Space

UFA Signings or extensions to UFA: (Add term if needed to get deals close to below)

Nino Niederieter $6m+term,
Max Domi $3.5M+term
MAF, $2.5M for 2yrs
Dylan Strome $3.5M (RFA so?)
Lyubuskin $2M+term
Holtby or Martin Jones $2M

= $19.5M

(massaging to be done but cap would work while leaving ~$5M, add to the deals for UFAs above if needed or upgrades for the 3/4 lines at the TDL)...


Bunting, Matthews, Marner
Robertson, Tavares, Niederieter
Engvall, Strome, Domi
Simmonds, Kampf, Joey Anderson

Rielly, Brodie
Chychrun, Lyubushkin
Gio, Liljigren
Sandin (unless you can move him for a 2nd line winger upgrade over Robertson, which would be awesome if the winger is young, talented, gritty, and worth less than the $5m available.)

MAF
Holby or Martin Jones


Gritty forwards, check.
Robertson gets his shot, check.
Solid and younger defense, check.
Veteran goaltending, check.

NO MRAZEK. CHECK!
EXTRA CAP. CHECK!

Later dudes. Enjoy your summer!

- Barb34

6m+ for Niederreiter

Hard pass

Fifty still getting harassed in here by the Lollypop crew because he doesn't see things all blue and perfect.

Mods still moding with impunity.

Boards are worst than ever for hockey talk so I'll just pop in to try to stoke a conversation that doesn't involve ballsuckery or random non-related topics of devision and derision.

Nice alliteration. (skalapy for mod)


Trade:
Chychrun for Nylander + Mrazek + as needed. $6.7M in savings for Leafs.

Walk or trade for picks/prospects:
Campbell, Micheyev, Kerfoot, Holl, Kase, Blackwell and Muzzin (only if the above deal works)

= +$11.4M added to the $6.4M currently available + Nylander trade savings of $6.7M

=~$24.5M is Cap Space

UFA Signings or extensions to UFA: (Add term if needed to get deals close to below)

Nino Niederieter $6m+term,
Max Domi $3.5M+term
MAF, $2.5M for 2yrs
Dylan Strome $3.5M (RFA so?)
Lyubuskin $2M+term
Holtby or Martin Jones $2M

= $19.5M

(massaging to be done but cap would work while leaving ~$5M, add to the deals for UFAs above if needed or upgrades for the 3/4 lines at the TDL)...


Bunting, Matthews, Marner
Robertson, Tavares, Niederieter
Engvall, Strome, Domi
Simmonds, Kampf, Joey Anderson

Rielly, Brodie
Chychrun, Lyubushkin
Gio, Liljigren
Sandin (unless you can move him for a 2nd line winger upgrade over Robertson, which would be awesome if the winger is young, talented, gritty, and worth less than the $5m available.)

MAF
Holby or Martin Jones


Gritty forwards, check.
Robertson gets his shot, check.
Solid and younger defense, check.
Veteran goaltending, check.

NO MRAZEK. CHECK!
EXTRA CAP. CHECK!

Later dudes. Enjoy your summer!

- Barb34

Congrats on your ban for all the BS you started this post with.

Trade Tracker is up. poop just got real.

Trade Tracker is up. poop just got real.
- GreatGigInTheSky

There's a lot of hype for draft trades and it's relatively meh most years

There's a lot of hype for draft trades and it's relatively meh most years
- Aaron_85

I fully expect to be disappointed come tomorrow with the trades that happen/lack of trades.

I fully expect to be disappointed come tomorrow with the trades that happen/lack of trades.
- GreatGigInTheSky

But I'll watch still until about pick 20. That's when most of the good trades should happen. Once the first round is over, then highly unlikely any big trades happen.

Congrats on your ban for all the BS you started this post with.
- Cush29

. Any way we can add a clapping emo here.

Sandin and Lily have almost identical stats to this point, I cant see him getting much more than lilgrin.

Is Ek's ion radar some kind of new scouting technology?
- TheMussel

it's the buzztron new baby brother.

Sandin and Lily have almost identical stats to this point, I cant see him getting much more than lilgrin.
- senstroll

I concur

I concur
- dmnted

My guess is that he only gets more if Dubas thinks there’s an offer sheet on the way and wants to lock him in for less.

Where's our buzz! We want buzz!

Maybe we change the site to Hockeystroll.... or Hockeydawdle?

Most Dubasee top prospect available ....Lane Hutson.

Where's our buzz! We want buzz!

Maybe we change the site to Hockeystroll.... or Hockeydawdle?
- The Law

Just to get some reactions, CC predictions

Holl, Kerfoot traded. Mrazek traded or bought out.
Mik, Campbell, and one of Engvall/Kase not back.
Boosh only back if Sandin or Muzzin gone.

Fluery/Comrie new goalies
New Boosh signed (no idea, Psyk?)
New forwards - Colin White as 4C (has Kampf defensive #s), Helm, Evan Rodrigues, a few Marlies, a trade

First shot Fleury
Five hole Fleury
Four goal Fleury

Judging by Pens blog comments
Hard pass

Why? If he’s not happy at the prospect of being the 7th defenceman of being pushed to the right side, it might not be that hard for a team to structure a deal he likes that is hard for the Leafs to match.
- Canada Cup

Because it rarely occurs

Boqvist taken 10 picks in front of Sandin (and has shown better than him so far) just signed an extension at 3 x 2.6M.

Razzmoose gonna find a team to give him a whole bunch more?
- The Law

I think Boqvist was a lot more then 10 picks in front of Sandin, he was top 10.🤔

Because it rarely occurs
- Fakepartofme

It's tough to get it done at a level that doesn't cost you a ton of assets but also that the original team won't match.

Sandin and Lily have almost identical stats to this point, I cant see him getting much more than lilgrin.
- senstroll

I wonder if future defensive coaching/skills development will revolve around handedness and playing on your wrong side: I mean, think how many defensemen's careers probably didn't take off because they played on the left side and it's so crowded over there?

Sandin and Lily have almost identical stats to this point, I cant see him getting much more than lilgrin.
- senstroll

I like Boqvist contract for Sandin.

Lil has been better than both. Sandin lines up with Boqvist