I’d say he has a read on the return for almost all of his players including Willie. He also sounds less enthused on Boosh talks (my read anyway)
https://mobile.twitter.co...&t=vNbwsnAUqVpajn6JjY7ZnQ
- Canada Cup

If Boosh doesn't come back .. that money perhaps could go to soup ???

If Boosh doesn't come back .. that money perhaps could go to soup ???
- dozerD10

I think they’d get a new Boosh. No Soup for us would be my guess

Kinda caught me off guard as well.. since that was a monster line pretty much all yr.

- dozerD10

It was one of the best lines in the league. From where I was sitting, it wasn't a one man show by Auston. Marner is a superstar and Bunting is solid

It was one of the best lines in the league. From where I was sitting, it wasn't a one man show by Auston. Marner is a superstar and Bunting is solid
- Zezel

Marner doesn’t shave

Jonas Siegel
@jonassiegel
· 1h
Kyle Dubas: "If we need to create cap space to improve our team, I think we know based on the conversations we’ve had, that we would be able to move a lot of our players if needed for good value or move them along. I think we’re in a good spot that way."

No sideways moves but Dubas is not afraid to move guys this year. I think if they get a good contract in FA or trade they will do what is necessary

Fifty still getting harassed in here by the Lollypop crew because he doesn't see things all blue and perfect.

Mods still moding with impunity.

Boards are worst than ever for hockey talk so I'll just pop in to try to stoke a conversation that doesn't involve ballsuckery or random non-related topics of devision and derision.

Nice alliteration. (skalapy for mod)


Trade:
Chychrun for Nylander + Mrazek + as needed. $6.7M in savings for Leafs.

Walk or trade for picks/prospects:
Campbell, Micheyev, Kerfoot, Holl, Kase, Blackwell and Muzzin (only if the above deal works)

= +$11.4M added to the $6.4M currently available + Nylander trade savings of $6.7M

=~$24.5M is Cap Space

UFA Signings or extensions to UFA: (Add term if needed to get deals close to below)

Nino Niederieter $6m+term,
Max Domi $3.5M+term
MAF, $2.5M for 2yrs
Dylan Strome $3.5M (RFA so?)
Lyubuskin $2M+term
Holtby or Martin Jones $2M

= $19.5M

(massaging to be done but cap would work while leaving ~$5M, add to the deals for UFAs above if needed or upgrades for the 3/4 lines at the TDL)...


Bunting, Matthews, Marner
Robertson, Tavares, Niederieter
Engvall, Strome, Domi
Simmonds, Kampf, Joey Anderson

Rielly, Brodie
Chychrun, Lyubushkin
Gio, Liljigren
Sandin (unless you can move him for a 2nd line winger upgrade over Robertson, which would be awesome if the winger is young, talented, gritty, and worth less than the $5m available.)

MAF
Holby or Martin Jones


Gritty forwards, check.
Robertson gets his shot, check.
Solid and younger defense, check.
Veteran goaltending, check.

NO MRAZEK. CHECK!
EXTRA CAP. CHECK!

Later dudes. Enjoy your summer!

Bryan Marchment died today. He was in Montreal for the draft. He was a scout for the Sharks - 53 years old.
- Canada Cup

I was out when this happened and my uncle texted me about it.

Him and my uncle got along well. Sad news.

His name is Willy... anything else would have a cost... Nice smoke screen though by Kyle.





- dozerD10

Nah. Every team undeniably wants the players the Leafs have.

That's why the Leafs are double the next closest team in players getting claimed off waivers.

People get mad that "everything" revolves around the Leafs, when the other teams make it so.

I was out when this happened and my uncle texted me about it.

Him and my uncle got along well. Sad news.
- GreatGigInTheSky

It is. That’s really young. I don’t even remember being 53.

It is. That’s really young. I don’t even remember being 53.
- Canada Cup

I thought he was older, not gonna lie. Couldn't believe it when my uncle told me.

A $4.1M offer sheet and you get Sandin for a 2nd round pick. No-brainer for a rebuilding team.. Saw this on twatter.

Man I hope the Ducks do this... if not trade outright for him.

Saw Dubas say he hopes it happens sooner rather than later... if it happens at all.
- dozerD10

If it was a no brainer it'd happen more than twice in 9 years.

it's not a no brainer b/c that team would also be committing to paying him 4.1M or more every year going forward. They better like him a lot.

And if he's shown enough to some GM(s) that he's on his way to being that ...then I assume Dubas (the guy that drafted and developed him) feels the same way and would just match.

But he can't match? Of course he can and other GM's know that ...that's why it doesn't happen.

Even with Kotkineimi that signed him to a big enough figure to make the the compensation high enough that Montreal would let him go.

hopefully not another solar storm death
- drexel

if he was inside, he'd be protected from the radiation. not so much he was outside.

If it was a no brainer it'd happen more than twice in 9 years.

it's not a no brainer b/c that team would also be committing to paying him 4.1M or more every year going forward. They better like him a lot.

And if he's shown enough to some GM(s) that he's on his way to being that ...then I assume Dubas (the guy that drafted and developed him) feels the same way and would just match.

But he can't match? Of course he can and other GM's know that ...that's why it doesn't happen.

Even with Kotkineimi that signed him to a big enough figure to make the the compensation high enough that Montreal would let him go.
- The Law

4.1 seems so high for him. It’s a tough situation because you don’t wAnt to lose him just for a 2nd but the 4.1 is to high unless it’s a 7 year deal.

4.1 seems so high for him. It’s a tough situation because you don’t wAnt to lose him just for a 2nd but the 4.1 is to high unless it’s a 7 year deal.
- bryant

It would suck but you match and deal with it rather than lose him for a 2nd. It's why GM's that want a player always offer enough comp (or work at a trade in advance - kessel) to make it happen.

Bergevin did his stupid Carolina OS at too low a number and was laughed at. Carolina returned the favour but at a price point big enough to let Bergevin walk from the player.

Teams will not approach it like us and say "Leafs don't want to pay 4.1". Teams will approach it like "I want this player. How do I get Kyle to let him walk".

They'd have to offer more than 4.1 to get the comp up to a 1st and 3rd I think.

And I just don't see a team willing to give Sandin 4.1+ for multiple years at that cost ...right now.

I think this is all just normal negotiating. Sandin wants some control.

I know Dubas is talking about Mrazek and kind of keeping him but if he's looking to trade him he isn't going to publicly admonish him. He also wants GMs to think he would keep him if the deal isn't good enough but we all know he's willing to move him.

Also I read Dubas comments about Sandin "sooner the better" as a shot at GMs to up their trade price.

If it was a no brainer it'd happen more than twice in 9 years.

it's not a no brainer b/c that team would also be committing to paying him 4.1M or more every year going forward. They better like him a lot.

And if he's shown enough to some GM(s) that he's on his way to being that ...then I assume Dubas (the guy that drafted and developed him) feels the same way and would just match.

But he can't match? Of course he can and other GM's know that ...that's why it doesn't happen.

Even with Kotkineimi that signed him to a big enough figure to make the the compensation high enough that Montreal would let him go.
- The Law

That’s all true but Sandin just watched Dubas who drafted and developed both him and Lilligren give Lilli $1.4 and a full opportunity to play. He’s hoping there a team that will give him an opportunity to play and not spend another year behind broken down Muzzin and who will put up maybe just enough to (frank) up Dubas’ other spending plans. How much can Kyle really afford to spend for what might be a 7th D this year.

It might not happen but there also might be a deal that Dubas doesn’t match.

I know Dubas is talking about Mrazek and kind of keeping him but if he's looking to trade him he isn't going to publicly admonish him. He also wants GMs to think he would keep him if the deal isn't good enough but we all know he's willing to move him.
- Aaron_85

I thought he was polishing his turd a bit. Or maybe Kypper is right. I do think Mrazek is better than he was last year but I don’t want to watch him try to re-find his form (and groin) in a Leafs uniform. I

I thought he was polishing his turd a bit. Or maybe Kypper is right. I do think Mrazek is better than he was last year but I don’t want to watch him try to re-find his form (and groin) in a Leafs uniform. I
- Canada Cup

I don't either his cap hit. I mean, good for him if he finds his game a bit again. Just not in a leaf uniform as you said.

me like leafs

If the Leafs traded Bill Ny, what do you think a return would look like?

Just wondering and want to compare what fans of other teams think their guys are worth.

Like, Chicago fans seem to think DeBrincat is worth multiple 1sts and a top prospect.

If the Leafs traded Bill Ny, what do you think a return would look like?

Just wondering and want to compare what fans of other teams think their guys are worth.

Like, Chicago fans seem to think DeBrincat is worth multiple 1sts and a top prospect.
- GreatGigInTheSky

It depends. I think him swapped for Chychrun would be pretty close. If it wasn't for another young player I think it would be a 1st, a top prospect and some established NHL player.

It could differ depending on the prospect. Like if it were to St. Louis maybe it's Thomas and a 1st? Or you know something similar to Ryder, Halak and a 2nd.

Thomas, Rights to Husso and a 2nd. (I'm kidding)

That’s all true but Sandin just watched Dubas who drafted and developed both him and Lilligren give Lilli $1.4 and a full opportunity to play. He’s hoping there a team that will give him an opportunity to play and not spend another year behind broken down Muzzin and who will put up maybe just enough to (frank) up Dubas’ other spending plans. How much can Kyle really afford to spend for what might be a 7th D this year.

It might not happen but there also might be a deal that Dubas doesn’t match.
- Canada Cup

I agree with everything until the last two lines. I really don't feel like Dubas or Keefe see Sandin as 7th best. I think he's in the top 6 or he's an asset to be traded. They like him well enough to match and put him on the right rather than lose him for a pick that has a 5% chance of being a NHLer.

I don't doubt Sandin would love an OS. I just don't see a team being more in love with him them Dubas n Co.

offer sheeting the leafs could be inadvisable

offer sheeting the leafs could be inadvisable
- Zezel

Boqvist taken 10 picks in front of Sandin (and has shown better than him so far) just signed an extension at 3 x 2.6M.

Razzmoose gonna find a team to give him a whole bunch more?