I agree with most of this, I think they (MLSE as it relates to player movement) are one of the better teams at not letting anything leak out unless they choose to.

I mean I can't recall the last time a big MLSE player move on any of the 4 teams they own occurred and was accurate.

I also agree with your comment about them leaking out info when it suits them and it's 100% strategic and well planned.

I sure hope they don't decide to do nothing and roll with Mer-Spaz-ick and Kalligren /Woll as back up options - I'm in agreement 100% that would be a mistake and not play out well and put them in a place where they drastically have to overpay for goaltending help before or at the TDL.
- Cush29

Yep - I added in above that the insiders are "hearing" the same thing on the Campbell talks - that not much of anything is happening - so the Leafs are clearly trying to get that message out.

I don’t buy that. There are leaks, some of them on purpose. They could be preparing the fan base for a big *nothing* on the goaltending front.

All of the insiders: Freedge, Kypreos, Johnston - they ALL are hearing and reporting there is nothing going on with the Leafs and Campbell. Clearly, people are talking.

I too think that would be a mistake to go into the season with Mrazek/Woll/Kallgren.
- fifty__missions

Leaks can come from agents or management. Rumours about Campbell talks could come from Soup’s side or the team. The rumour that Kyle is thinking of going with Mrazek and Kallgren could only be generated internally.

Soup will be in net opening night. I'll bet anyone a bag of chips and a couple chocolate bars.

I don't think I particularly like this move and am a bit miffed the Leafs couldn't find a goaile coach with more of NHL caliber resume as it relates to coaching goalies. I guess there aren't alot out there who are available?

Sanford wasn't a good NHL goalie and he hasn't coached NHL goalies at the NHL level ever - yes he coached Demko when he was in the AHL but that's one guy who had success - is that the coaching or the goalie?

He's coached for 5 years at the AHL level - how does that make him a good hire to coach NHL goalies?

- Cush29

How long did keefe coach for prior to getting bumped up to the nhl?
Was Benoit allaire a good goalie?
Being a good goalie doesnt make you a good coach and vice versa.
Gotta get your start sometime, i would think the leafs did their homework

Hopefully

'Nothing going on with Campbell' does not equate to they've decided to go with Mrazek and Kallgren. Got to miss a lot of exits to find that turnoff.

Kypreos has the same amount of credibility as random Twitter guy and he's the only one who's ever said anything that doesn't amount to the leafs want to fire Mrazek square into the sun.
- joel878

I'm not equating them. I'm just saying that there are leaks. You can discount Kypper all you want - I agree - one source is definitely not gospel. Just an interesting thought, and one I'm not surprised they are contemplating given their cap situation. As I said, I don't think it's a great idea.

Yup ...no leaks from Dubie's group unless he wants it to happen.

Usually by now you'd have heard reels of details from Dreger, CJ, Friedman, etc....

Even Friedman is only offering guess-work at this point.

Kypreos knows nuttin'.
- The Law

smart to leak that to kyper, puts the leafs in a better negotiating. spot....can play it casual... no pressure.

i think

I don’t buy that. There are leaks, some of them on purpose. They could be preparing the fan base for a big *nothing* on the goaltending front.

All of the insiders: Freedge, Kypreos, Johnston - they ALL are hearing and reporting there is nothing going on with the Leafs and Campbell. Clearly, people are talking.

I too think that would be a mistake to go into the season with Mrazek/Woll/Kallgren.
- fifty__missions

Hearing from Campbell's camp that "nothing" is happening is hardly leaked news.

The point was the Leafs brass doesn't leak the way it used to. And it seems like most organizations now work that way. Dreger is essential a pigeon for agents nowadays.

Soup will be in net opening night. I'll bet anyone a bag of chips and a couple chocolate bars.
- Zezel

Kit kat chunkys?

Kit kat chunkys?
- Fakepartofme

Could be fakesie, could be Kit Kat Chunky. Could be Twix. Maybe even Caramilk.

Could be fakesie, could be Kit Kat Chunky. Could be Twix. Maybe even Caramilk.
- Zezel

Well if its twix im not taking the bet.
Lol

I'm not equating them. I'm just saying that there are leaks. You can discount Kypper all you want - I agree - one source is definitely not gospel. Just an interesting thought, and one I'm not surprised they are contemplating given their cap situation. As I said, I don't think it's a great idea.
- fifty__missions

You’re just missing the difference between leaks that come from the Leafs (don’t happen much) and those that come from agents (happen much more often). The Kypper rumour would have to come from the team which makes it less credible. It’s possible but less like credible.

Could be fakesie, could be Kit Kat Chunky. Could be Twix. Maybe even Caramilk.
- Zezel

Spencer Caramilk?

Well if its twix im not taking the bet.
Lol
- Fakepartofme

Twix is the only candy bar with a cookie crunch my friend.

I'm not equating them. I'm just saying that there are leaks. You can discount Kypper all you want - I agree - one source is definitely not gospel. Just an interesting thought, and one I'm not surprised they are contemplating given their cap situation. As I said, I don't think it's a great idea.
- fifty__missions

I think everyone in Leaf management is well aware that even finding a home for Mrazek and getting two cheap unproven options is going to be both better on the cap and in net then Mrazek/Kallgren would be.

Mrazek is a net negative on the books and the ice.

smart to leak that to kyper, puts the leafs in a better negotiating. spot....can play it casual... no pressure.

i think
- senstroll

Why does a certain scene from Blazing Saddles come to mind?

Could be fakesie, could be Kit Kat Chunky. Could be Twix. Maybe even Caramilk.
- Zezel

Big Turk or GTFO

Lahmajoun for lunch

good poop

smart to leak that to kyper, puts the leafs in a better negotiating. spot....can play it casual... no pressure.

i think
- senstroll

This team sees itself as a contender. I doubt Dubas would waste a second putting that rumour out there b/c it's so ridiculously unbelievable. We're going to put our cup hopes on the guy we waived (and disappointed us all year) and two scrubs this year.

Just my guess but as to whether Leaf management leaked that to Kyper or Kyper made it up to sell ads on the radio ...I'd wager the latter. He's thrown a lot of non-sensical stuff out there ...it's kind of his schtick.

Kadri was 6 years and 9+ for sure ...now he's 4 x 8+ for sure. He looks for a negative Leaf angle and rolls with it ....it sells so it's hard to blame him.

Big Turk or GTFO
- drexel

this take is 110% on-brand for you

I think everyone in Leaf management is well aware that even finding a home for Mrazek and getting two cheap unproven options is going to be both better on the cap and in net then Mrazek/Kallgren would be.

Mrazek is a net negative on the books and the ice.
- joel878

It is unfortunately also possible that what teams are asking for to take Mrazek's contract is entirely unpalatable at this point.

Big Turk or GTFO
- drexel

*gets the FO*

😢
Sober at work

Teams know we are desperate for a goalie currently…..and will bend Kyle over

If things start to implode, we can always make a move before the deadline
- mr.sir

I think that it would be down right idiotic to go with Mrazek and if it goes to poop, we can fix it in March.

Holy (frank) Batman. Just stop

It is unfortunately also possible that what teams are asking for to take Mrazek's contract is entirely unpalatable at this point.
- fifty__missions

They’ll buy him out and worry about the money later if they have no confidence in him.

One of the things Lou told Dubas was not to feel pressured or rushed if the deal wasn’t there.

I think everyone in Leaf management is well aware that even finding a home for Mrazek and getting two cheap unproven options is going to be both better on the cap and in net then Mrazek/Kallgren would be.

Mrazek is a net negative on the books and the ice.
- joel878

Yes Lebrun said the other day the CHI trade got to the point where MAF was asked to waive to Toronto and he said yes...Pretty obvious to anyone that Dubas has been looking for someone else in goal and getting rid of Mrazek. Now that MAF is a FA id imagine its even more likely a Mrazek to CHI deal happens, it will cost less.

It is unfortunately also possible that what teams are asking for to take Mrazek's contract is entirely unpalatable at this point.
- fifty__missions

Meh, far worse contracts have been dumped. I can see Mrazek being a quality option for someone who needs a stopgap for two years and has money to piss away, Chicago for example.

Hot take: the leafs won't even need a sweetener to dump him. They'll get some 4th line can and the cap space in return.