Funny how a mod outright mocks me for a comment I’ve made about the term “hate” being used.
- fifty__missions

You made your bed, you have to lie in it.

You made your bed, you have to lie in it.
- Santo_44

Spare me, Mr wannabe mod. 😀

Miles Wood > Marchment

Badland Chugs!


I cannot watch his youtube videos. They are gross.
- Aaron_85

I got nothing wrong with people burping, but his was (frank)ing gross.

I got nothing wrong with people burping, but his was (frank)ing gross.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Philadelphia Colins?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NmIExb9yTt8

Sandin is good. Very worthy of a 2 year 1.6-1.8M contract.

The issue is they have Rielly, Muzzin and Gio on the left side. You can not turn down Gio at 800K.

The reality of the situation is Sandin shouldn't sign a bridge like Lil if he knows he is going into the year as the 4LD behind 3 vets. 3RD is his best case scenario if nobody gets hurt?

Yeah I'd sign an offer sheet too.
- Santo_44

Sandin is looking to leverage the idea he matters to a team that's trying to win a cup right now. He doesn't.

... 🤷🏻‍♂️

You hardball Muzzins ass out the door McDonagh style, sign Sandin, and add some real toughness on the cheap as depth D.
- fifty__missions

So Rielly, Sandin and Gio on the left with Brodie, Lilli and Holl or Holl replacement on the right. Hardballing good Muzzin out the door loses a lot for the playoffs.

Maybe you go that route but this he’s not a hardass ignores the reality that it’s not a straightforward question.

Ya, maybe it's a 2L bottle ...that'd be tough.

I'm confident with my chugging though. Don't tell Zezel but I have like zero gag reflex. I should have been a Belushi.
- The Law

Can you down a pint like the old man at the end of The Man Show could? Literally half a second.

You hardball Muzzins ass out the door McDonagh style, sign Sandin, and add some real toughness on the cheap as depth D.
- fifty__missions

This is an interesting argument coming from a guy who's mantra is that Dubas has us worked into a corner where he can't make moves that improve the team.
Because what you just said (even though you pitched it as a no brainer) does not improve the team. It makes it worse.

Sandin is looking to leverage the idea he matters to a team that's trying to win a cup right now. He doesn't.

... 🤷🏻‍♂️
- joel878

He is a 22 year old who wants to play because he is good enough.

The Leafs do not have a good opportunity for him.

He is a 22 year old who wants to play because he is good enough.

The Leafs do not have a good opportunity for him.
- Santo_44

Agreed. Which, if we're going full circle brings me right back to my original comment of Sandins biggest worth to the team being as a trade chip to upgrade another area.

Funny how a mod outright mocks me for a comment I’ve made about the term “hate” being used.
- fifty__missions

You know what is the opposite of funny? Everyone here having to read the same crap from you ever single day. You get so angry when someone says you hate Dubas but all you do is post negatively about him so you hate how he does his job but not him - did I get that right?

So it's ok for you to post sarcastically & mock other people's opinions but nobody better put words in your mouth or mock you - that's the line is it?

Guess what, you don't get to decide where the line is sorry.

As I have told you before I'll call you out when you go on your endlessly negative streams of posting as you are right now.

I'm hopeful one day you get that not everyone (in fact most of the folks on here) is interested in hearing or reading the constant negative from you. You can try to justify it by calling it being a realist or whatever you choose to justify it but it's generally unwanted and I am starting to think this is what you enjoy - simply being the squeaky wheel / the one who has to take the alternative view and vocalize it.

You are welcome to do so but don't be offended and shocked when people tell you they are tired of hearing it and ask you to stop.

And for the record you get back what you put out there - you chirping people's negative opinion about Sandin was about as hypocritical as it gets based on your posting history here in the recent months.

I am sure once you march down to MLSE and tell them your plans they will remove Dubas and anoint you the GM and we will all have to eat crow at the Stanley Cup parade. We will all be humbled by all the hardball GM moves you make and your impressive ability to not show any loyalty to players you draft/trade for or sign to extensions etc.

23 minutes a night against the other teams best anchor. He's still got game. But moving him was the best way to create the cap flexibility they needed.

In a world where people (on here) are suggesting $4M offer sheets for Sandin ...McD and Muzzin at their numbers can't look so bad.

My plan would be to do what you have to to get buy-in from Sandin b/c I agree this is almost assuredly Muzzin's last year in town given his contract and I like Sandin a lot. Get Sandin to hang in for a year. Lots of minutes on the left and right to go around.
- The Law

It’s the 4 years that make McDonagh’s contract an anchor. Muzzin only has two, he only cost $2M in real money next year and moves to a partial NTC next July 1.

I agree with that approach with Sandin. He appears not to be buying in completely or, you know, negotiating.

Funny how a mod outright mocks me for a comment I’ve made about the term “hate” being used.
- fifty__missions

You've said you don't hate him - that he's probably a fine person - you just hate everything he does pertaining to being a general manager.

It's within the realm of the context of the conversation. I have no personal knowledge of what Martin Marincin is like as a human being, so I probably don't hate him, but I hate him as a defenseman, so when talking sports, we can say, "I hate Marincin". It's not personal, and it's not my fault he sucks.

As for what to do with Muzzin? He holds the cards in terms of his NTC, but the Leafs do hold the cards in terms of his enjoyment and opportunity here. If they need to go that route, they might - but I would think first and foremost they need to ask themselves if there is more value in having Muzzin or more value in not. Is Sandin ready?

There aren't a lot of UFA guys who bring the toughness you're looking to add at a greater discount that Muzzin is already paid - Chiarot, Zadorov, Manson, Gudbranson are all big enough, but they will either get PAID or are just too slow or have too many holes in their games.

I don't think Dubas would like to approach a player who has an NTC about waiving it, but his first priority is to assemble the best team he can. He did approach Naz about waiving the NTC. He's willing to do it. This isn't just about "his guys" either. If Naz was performing in the playoffs like we all wanted, his salary would have been like pennies from heaven. Instead he was getting himself suspended and causing significant holes in the roster. It may have cost Colorado last year just like it cost us in his final 2 years here. So Naz was a liability and he cut him loose. If Muzzin is considered a liability, I have no doubt the same considerations will apply.

Curtis Sanford eh🤨

Thank god we don't have to come here to read you ripping on Kyle Dubas & his terrible GM'ing daily right?

At least you don't hate him right?

Never mind you chirping people for 'backing the bus' over Sandin and their opinions on him, I mean it's not like you ever drone on and on and on in a negative way about anything right?
- Cush29

Give him a break. He say a lot of poop in here, it's hard for him to remember exactly what he's said.

Like, he doesn't even remember that he hated Liljegren before being proven wrong about him.

Miles Wood > Marchment
- mr.sir

I'd take Marchment 120 times out of 100 over Wood.

I'd like Wood on the Leafs, don't get me wrong, but Marchment is so much better.

Philadelphia Colins?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NmIExb9yTt8
- mr.sir

It’s the 4 years that make McDonagh’s contract an anchor. Muzzin only has two, he only cost $2M in real money next year and moves to a partial NTC next July 1.

I agree with that approach with Sandin. He appears not to be buying in completely or, you know, negotiating.
- Canada Cup

Ya, and the fact that the only rumblings about the Sandin "drama" were some really remote stuff from Freidman gives me zero concern.

He's an asset and so is Muzzin. If a good trade materializes for either and it makes sense then sure ...if not, then Keefe can keep them all happy.

In fact, outside of Leaf-hyperbole-land, this is how it works. Unproven guys earn their minutes when they knock a vet out of the rotation. I like Sandin a lot and I think he steals a job in camp ...probably on the right side. He's got all summer and camp to work on it ..unlike last year.

Give him a break. He say a lot of poop in here, it's hard for him to remember exactly what he's said.

Like, he doesn't even remember that he hated Liljegren before being proven wrong about him.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Liljgren is fine. I said he wasn’t ready for playoff hockey. He played one game in the Tampa series. I hope he continues to develop. But let’s not confuse him with Cale Makar.

It’s the 4 years that make McDonagh’s contract an anchor. Muzzin only has two, he only cost $2M in real money next year and moves to a partial NTC next July 1.

I agree with that approach with Sandin. He appears not to be buying in completely or, you know, negotiating.
- Canada Cup

I didn't know that. Or maybe I was told it before and forgot.

Either way, that's gotta be really enticing to some teams.

I'd take Marchment 120 times out of 100 over Wood.

I'd like Wood on the Leafs, don't get me wrong, but Marchment is so much better.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Classic buy high vs buy low scenario

Give him a break. He say a lot of poop in here, it's hard for him to remember exactly what he's said.

Like, he doesn't even remember that he hated Liljegren before being proven wrong about him.
- GreatGigInTheSky

I remember the argument there being Liljegren was worthless because he was drafted 5 years ago and wasn't playing in the NHL.

He's far from the only one who was looking at him that way.

Interesting that we haven't reached the same mindset with sandin. 🤔

The summer has yet to begin, should we not give dubaya time to do stuff before roasting him?
Let roast in September

Curtis Sanford eh🤨
- mr.sir

I still want Zach Sanford for the 4th line.