No it isn't. The biggest issue up here is having that french banana eater in power.
- GPHawksfan

I thought bananas were a tropical fruit? Isn't the climate a little too cool in France for banana growing?

Kirill Kaprizov is reportedly wanted in Russia for buying a military ID in 2017. He is supposedly in the States right now.
- Theo Fox

Just crazy, and i know many complain about our country but these Russians really have no rights.

It's been reported that the Devils will just make the pick at 2. The need size on their team and Debrincat has none. We'll see what happens I guess.
- GPHawksfan

Remember how KD was saying it didn't really matter if the had to KEEP the 2022 if they won the lottery.

Maybe they are looking like long term at Shane Wright , and KD's gobble-gook about we be happy with the first guy THIS year was real.

I am not trying to be anything fair on the following thoughts but, Shane Wright has a huge canvass he has painted since midgets.
He is so safe, and here's why no-one can call him a Nolan Patrick selection:
He has a great shot, is a prove almost 2 points a game scorer in most of his earlier levels, and is a excellent smart playmaker and does have playing speed.

Whether we debate until the start of the draft, this kid if not picked first will play to prove his abilities are first overall.

The same goes for Cooley. You pretty much know what you are getting, and that he plays for a pretty long time in some capacity.

Think about the allure Kirby Dach had to the hawks...so big, hockey smart and fluid, you just gamble the pieces far together. So I totally understand why Juraj Slafkovsky is so attractive, and like Dacher, you say SIZE, feet at that SIZE?, and we can wait if he doesn't put it all together right away.
There was less guarantee when the Blackhawks took Dach over Byram, but big guys with feet well there are only so many of them four drafts back.
same goes for Quinton Byfield, Kaapo Kakko, and Jesperi Kotkaniemi a centre over wing Brady Tkachuk.

and Nick Suzuki, Cole Caufield are not giants among men, and the keep getting very handsome offers for wing Josh Anderson.

Maybe it will be Juraj Slafkovsky name called so that makes the selection attractive. I dunno if the hawks would take Juraj Slafkovsky and play him with Dach and wait and see - there are simply so many roster spots to fill with hopeful promising guys even in rebuilds....

Kirill Kaprizov is reportedly wanted in Russia for buying a military ID in 2017. He is supposedly in the States right now.
- Theo Fox

and all he wanted to do was swap it with Evander Kane for the phony Covid-19 vaccination card he got....

Look, I would be happy with second overall and an unprotected 2023 and go with that.

You draft second overall and you fail, that says a lot about your new amateur head scout.

I see that the cat might make them jump up in the standings but to the playoffs that first year? I dunno.

So that is a lottery pick in a year when draft #2 is barely a consolation and drafting 16th gets you a prospect with more guarantees than the ned of the top ten does this year.

I think NOT trading DeBrincat sets up an awkward situation that both team and player will try to comment on as being, "just the business side," it sort of screws further negotiations if I am the cat...NOW, I ask for more because I think I am nor=t staying long, and NOW, I am not sure my family is so in love with my Chicago condo, the parks, and the team....
- wiz1901

He has it even better then a condo - he's got a house in Roscoe village with a pretty yard and everything.

At the end of the day these guys are going to go to the best opportunity. Playing with a younger group in a new city and being able to really be one of the leaders may be more appealing than we think.

Just kind of backing into the role (while he's earned it that would be the case in Chicago cause who else is it gonna be) vs someone saying hey we want you to be a leader and set this example and this is what we were willing to give up for you to do that here - can be very impactful regardless of location.

Garrioch has an article in the Ottawa Sun stating the Hawks would like to ship out Jones to start the rebuild without his contracts on the books for 8 years but know they’ll likely have to retain money.

Also reported in this article that the Hawks don’t seem to be planning to qualify Strome.
- Theo Fox

Interesting.

I don't know that the money is necessarily the deciding factor but certainly the return would not be near what they paid.

He has it even better then a condo - he's got a house in Roscoe village with a pretty yard and everything.

At the end of the day these guys are going to go to the best opportunity. Playing with a younger group in a new city and being able to really be one of the leaders may be more appealing than we think.

Just kind of backing into the role (while he's earned it that would be the case in Chicago cause who else is it gonna be) vs someone saying hey we want you to be a leader and set this example and this is what we were willing to give up for you to do that here - can be very impactful regardless of location.
- fattybeef

Great comment here.

Interesting.

I don't know that the money is necessarily the deciding factor but certainly the return would not be near what they paid.
- fattybeef

It most likely would not be what they paid, but I'd wager that there would be plenty of suitors (dependent on what comes back).

I think in general Jones is well thought of in the league and there is respect for his game.

I think Cooley was more of a Stan pick than Slafkovsky is. I think KD will swing up on upside.

Cooley would be a fine addition especially his two-way game matching what KD said they are looking for with their players, but the Hawks are in a position where they need to be swinging for the fences as they've got a long rebuild ahead so they have the patience to wait a couple years and not rush the development of a kid like Slafkovsky who is probably a bit further away than Cooley is.
- TommyHawk

Not really.

Championship teams are built up the middle. They do not have a top 6 center on the roster or anywhere.

I'd be concerned about the big mans transition from smoking kids to being rather ordinary against men in the Finnish league. International tournaments aren't a really a great barometer for future success either.

It most likely would not be what they paid, but I'd wager that there would be plenty of suitors (dependent on what comes back).

I think in general Jones is well thought of in the league and there is respect for his game.
- Chunk

All of the CBJ draft predictions talk about them wanting to replace what he brought to the team, so it seems many think better of him than the BOD does (just are they willing to pay that price).

Ottawa is looking for help solidifying their D (is Jones the answer, and would he waive his NMC to go there?)

It most likely would not be what they paid, but I'd wager that there would be plenty of suitors (dependent on what comes back).

I think in general Jones is well thought of in the league and there is respect for his game.
- Chunk

If we do trade Jones and pay for a portion of his contract....can that be negotiated to say only 4 yrs vs the full 8?

All of the CBJ draft predictions talk about them wanting to replace what he brought to the team, so it seems many think better of him than the BOD does (just are they willing to pay that price).

Ottawa is looking for help solidifying their D (is Jones the answer, and would he waive his NMC to go there?)
- Revco38

Probably because the only real dynamic player they had remaining was Werenski. As we all know too well, you need a few guys on the backend that can actually skate and know what to do with the puck.

If we do trade Jones and pay for a portion of his contract....can that be negotiated to say only 4 yrs vs the full 8?
- glennjpawlak22

I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure that is not allowed.

Probably because the only real dynamic player they had remaining was Werenski. As we all know too well, you need a few guys on the backend that can actually skate and know what to do with the puck.
- Chunk

LBR had a analytics breakdown of Jones on SCH I think yesterday. Her analytics show he had a fine season.

LBR had a analytics breakdown of Jones on SCH I think yesterday. Her analytics show he had a fine season.
- LAHawk

Now we just need a team who needs a top-pair, mobile defenseman who loves analytics to see the same thing, and offer anything to take him off our hands. Would even take salary back (obviously lesser term).

https://twitter.com/2ndCi...1-ZHQWvMvdK3XAiNs6qw&s=01

Just a matter of when now guys, it was nice having Cat on the team

Who are these guys anyways

LBR had a analytics breakdown of Jones on SCH I think yesterday. Her analytics show he had a fine season.
- LAHawk

He was fine I agree I also think he tried to do too much at times during the season. But that was understandable considering whi the d partners were.

Oh I thought you said “always”
- TheDrumonMadison

Always regarding ADB as in last month, this month, today, tomorrow. Similar to the Jones deal Stan would not have given up the house on a rental.

He was fine I agree I also think he tried to do too much at times during the season. But that was understandable considering whi the d partners were.
- Scott1977

What was interesting in the Analysis was S. Jones in prior years excelled at breaking up plays at the blueline, and the Hawks under JC, and then King did not play that way (backing up from the blueline, which p***sed me off to no end.

Of course when you have no backchecking forwards that makes standing up at the blue line suicidal

LBR had a analytics breakdown of Jones on SCH I think yesterday. Her analytics show he had a fine season.
- LAHawk

Hawks should have no problem with Jones, only see them moving him if they want to dump salary. Performance wise he is meeting expectations on what they wanted when they acquired him.

What was interesting in the Analysis was S. Jones in prior years excelled at breaking up plays at the blueline, and the Hawks under JC, and then King did not play that way (backing up from the blueline, which p***sed me off to no end.

Of course when you have no backchecking forwards that makes standing up at the blue line suicidal
- LAHawk

It is interesting that the pro-Seth article was written by LBR. Many here respect her AND think Jones sucks. Interesting, imo.

If we do trade Jones and pay for a portion of his contract....can that be negotiated to say only 4 yrs vs the full 8?
- glennjpawlak22

No can do. Salary retention is for the length of the contract.

Besides, even if his full NMC and the 9.5M hit doesn't kick in until the start of the league year, July 12, Jones still has a 10 team no trade list on his current contract.
I would think Ottawa would be on it.

Interesting how a trade involving Seth Jones would potentially require retained salary. Yet, at say $7.5M per year I feel no one would have an issue with him.

Hawks 22-23 schedule is out.

https://wgnradio.com/blac...release-2022-23-schedule/

I just read that what might be hampering New Jersey is they Juraj and they may have Montreal bluffing about taking him, tryin g to extort a NJ prospect from them to basically switch spots (w/o doing so for the hime crowd.)

Say the Habs want Wright and are bluffing they are going to take Juraj....they send the Habs a prospect for them not to take Juraj (who they weren't gonna take anyway!)

If Montreal really likes Juraj and select him first overall, New Jersey then disappointedly can pursue DeBrinat getting a little big man instead of a big man....