I wonder if the 2 year deal leaves it open for Trotz to sign next year, if he's looking to coach again.
If things don't go well and they fire him, they're only on the hook for one more season which isn't too bad to stomach if Trotz is coming in long term.
- 13sundin13

It was reported that the Jets were originally looking to have Bowness be one of the assistant coaches under Trotz. could the jets hire Trotz next year and let Bowness stay on as an assistant? - maybe.

Or - Jets bomb again this year and Chipman replaces Chevy with Trotz?

Three trades that I think could benefit the Jets. Solely based off the rumours.

Number One:

To MTL: PLD

To WPG: Nik Suzuki

Number Two:

To DET: Blake Wheeler, CBJ 2022 3rd round pick

To WPG: Future Considerations

Number Three:

To CHI: Cole Perfetti, Brendan Dillon, 14th Overall Pick, 29th Overall Pick

To WPG: Alex Dubincat & Dylan Strome

Jets use extra cap space to sign Ryan Strome.
- TheUltimateJet

The first one is most likley as i think Montreal covets Dubois and Dubois wants to play in Montreal. Suzuki might be a bit rich of an ask except for the French Canadian angle. Dubois for #1 OA 2022?

Second is underselling Wheeler a little. I don't think Columbus wants him as they will want Laine to stick around. His contract will likely require money coming back toward Winnipeg. Maybe as a piece in a trade with Arizona for Chykryn? Wheeler and 14th overall and Heinola for Chykryn?

Hard no to #3. I am not sold on the Strome value and Dubrincat will split ice time and PP time with Connor and Ehlers. Perfetti was already delivering the goods before his injury at a fraction of the cost with arguably a higher ceiling than AD. No way I trade Perfetti a 2020 #10 overall who is developing as hoped for, Dillon who is worth Strome on his own and two first round picks for that package.

The first one is most likley as i think Montreal covets Dubois and Dubois wants to play in Montreal. Suzuki might be a bit rich of an ask except for the French Canadian angle. Dubois for #1 OA 2022?
- 2.0

Again, hard no. 1st OA for a 60 pts player? I don't care that he speaks French, the goal is to build a winning team and throwing away assets is not the way to do that.

PLD and the 55th OA for 26th OA, 33rd OA and Dvorak? I'm guessing that's a no on your side. If you want a first rounder, that's the one you get, then you can build around it, but certainly not the 1st OA straight up for PLD, you'll need to add a lot and I don't think you'll want to.

Again, hard no. 1st OA for a 60 pts player? I don't care that he speaks French, the goal is to build a winning team and throwing away assets is not the way to do that.

PLD and the 55th OA for 26th OA, 33rd OA and Dvorak? I'm guessing that's a no on your side. If you want a first rounder, that's the one you get, then you can build around it, but certainly not the 1st OA straight up for PLD, you'll need to add a lot and I don't think you'll want to.
- YodaOldBoy

Yeah, he's a UFA in 2 years that wants out. You don't get Suzuki or the first overall with that. Like, at all.

Scott Arniel named Associate Coach

Well I guess we know who takes over in 2024

Joke, and it’s a amazing how True North can be excited about this

This was a very poor choice.
They managed to find a coach worse than Lowry. I say that only because Lowry has the excuse of inexperience.

Bowness is well below .500 in his career, and is the reason Dallas fell so fast.

Top line Luke Glendening time.
- Rexypoo

Yep. Bowness has the most rigid coaching style in the league. He's horribly inflexible and his teams tend to play for the tie every night, only opening up for offense when they're trailing by one.

Scott Arniel named Associate Coach

Well I guess we know who takes over in 2024

Joke, and it’s a amazing how True North can be excited about this
- jjonah

How does Cheveldayoff still have a job after what's gone on with the team? They're no better than they were when he started.

This is what we are…..in year 11…. The quote was “we are fortunate to get Scott Arniel”


That is all you need to know about this franchise and more importantly why they think about the fan$ that pour money into the team

Glad that the Jets hired someone with NHL head coaching experience. Didn't want to see some College or Junior or European coach coming in with zero experience. Hopefully, Bowness does not hire Huddy as an assistant.
- bennythehat

I agree with this statement. Trotz definitely my first choice, but the more I think about the Bowness, the better I feel. Said to bring communications skills and defensive structure which is what was ailing us.

Having said that, it is a little disappointing when I hear Bowness say that he didn't want to go to team with a rebuild underway. I think we need a rebuild, and what better time than now?

I agree with this statement. Trotz definitely my first choice, but the more I think about the Bowness, the better I feel. Said to bring communications skills and defensive structure which is what was ailing us.

Having said that, it is a little disappointing when I hear Bowness say that he didn't want to go to team with a rebuild underway.I think we need a rebuild, and what better time than now?
- grahamzky

Saying that we need a rebuild suggests that we built something in the first place.

This is what we are…..in year 11…. The quote was “we are fortunate to get Scott Arniel”


That is all you need to know about this franchise and more importantly why they think about the fan$ that pour money into the team
- jjonah

All we are missing now is Paul MacLean, Dave Ellet, and Pat Elynuik.

How does Cheveldayoff still have a job after what's gone on with the team? They're no better than they were when he started.
- BINGO!

He remember the owners birthday and every other special day. On those days he gives him a gift basket. It is the least he can do when he is taking his days off!

Was kind of ambivalent about the hiring of Bowness, but if Rexy doesn't like it, then I guess I have to like it.

How does Cheveldayoff still have a job after what's gone on with the team? They're no better than they were when he started.
- BINGO!

A moronic owner that clings to the past and Chevy is a yes man.

Saying that we need a rebuild suggests that we built something in the first place.
- TheUltimateJet

🤣

So sadly true! This team came together for one decent run in 17-18 which was still quite built by Atlanta ffs and Chipman clings to the Jets 1.0 era like they were hanging cup banners in the rafters!!

This team is middling, they slightly underperformed this past season but they really were what their record was.

Idk if it should be called a rebuild or a retool but either way they need to keep on building cause they just aren't good enough as they're presently built, not even close.

Bowness was a terrible hire and holding out hope that maybe Trotz will change his mind in a year or two is pathetic and just more wasted time, what they need more than anything is to separate Chipman from the day to day running of the team.

Scott Arniel named Associate Coach

Well I guess we know who takes over in 2024

Joke, and it’s a amazing how True North can be excited about this
- jjonah

It's embarrassing.

I wonder if they didn't wait too long and when their other options started getting hired they called up Bowness and he was willing to come, heard they might be bringing in former Moose Nolan Baumgartner to be an assistant coach.

They should've hired Montgomery.

Yep. Bowness has the most rigid coaching style in the league. He's horribly inflexible and his teams tend to play for the tie every night, only opening up for offense when they're trailing by one.
- BINGO!

The Jets really struggle to score as it is, really don't think Bowness was the right coach for this team.

The Jets aren't built to win 3-2 or 2-1 games, they're just not.

I can imagine there's going to be a lot of empty seats in the arena next season.

Again, hard no. 1st OA for a 60 pts player? I don't care that he speaks French, the goal is to build a winning team and throwing away assets is not the way to do that.

PLD and the 55th OA for 26th OA, 33rd OA and Dvorak? I'm guessing that's a no on your side. If you want a first rounder, that's the one you get, then you can build around it, but certainly not the 1st OA straight up for PLD, you'll need to add a lot and I don't think you'll want to.
- YodaOldBoy

With Dubois and Suzuki Montreal goes from a hole in the middle donut team to having a grade A center position with exceptional speed, skills and power between the two. Having a guy like pld matching up against Mathews would bring a smile to the face of every Han fan every time they played. Dubois gets up for games against Toronto and for playoff games. His overall consistency is improving with maturity and he is a force worth every bit of trading #1OA in a non exceptional draft year to a team with a window for the next 5-7

I would rather keep him in Winnipeg but without term it could be time to move on

With Dubois and Suzuki Montreal goes from a hole in the middle donut team to having a grade A center position with exceptional speed, skills and power between the two. Having a guy like pld matching up against Mathews would bring a smile to the face of every Han fan every time they played. Dubois gets up for games against Toronto and for playoff games. His overall consistency is improving with maturity and he is a force worth every bit of trading #1OA in a non exceptional draft year to a team with a window for the next 5-7

I would rather keep him in Winnipeg but without term it could be time to move on
- 2.0

A 1st OA in a non-exceptional draft will lend us a Dubois-like player, so it's not really an improvement, except in the now and we don't really care about the now. Also, you said it yourself, without term, it might be time to move on. Without term, you don't give away a 1st OA. Sign him to an 8 years contract and we might have a discussion, but right now, why would we trade your problem for a 1st OA?

A 1st OA in a non-exceptional draft will lend us a Dubois-like player, so it's not really an improvement, except in the now and we don't really care about the now. Also, you said it yourself, without term, it might be time to move on. Without term, you don't give away a 1st OA. Sign him to an 8 years contract and we might have a discussion, but right now, why would we trade your problem for a 1st OA?
- YodaOldBoy

Dubois is not a problem. He has stated that he wants to “wait and see” what direction the Jets are headed in prior to signing long-term.

With that in mind rumours about him wanting to play in Montreal have been there since he played in Columbus. I still think Nick Suzuki for PLD makes sense to both teams. PLD would not have a problem with the Canadiens rebuilding, whereas his patience may be short in Winnipeg.

Sorry I love the guy but PLD is leaving. Not a chance he is staying, could give him the C and $8+ a year……of all the things over the years I’ve posted, speculated this one is a sure thing .

Dubois is not a problem. He has stated that he wants to “wait and see” what direction the Jets are headed in prior to signing long-term.

With that in mind rumours about him wanting to play in Montreal have been there since he played in Columbus. I still think Nick Suzuki for PLD makes sense to both teams. PLD would not have a problem with the Canadiens rebuilding, whereas his patience may be short in Winnipeg.
- TheUltimateJet

The point remains, I'm trading you a guy of the same talent but younger and signed for the next 8 years for a guy who's unsigned and could be free in a few years or cost a lot more, especially if he wants to win and we are nowhere near that? Where's the win for Montreal? Just because the guy speaks French doesn't mean we'd do anything to get him. Suzuki and the 62nd for PLD and the 14th is my offer, do you do that? I don't think so. I'm not even sure I want to do it as it's a sideways move at best.

The point remains, I'm trading you a guy of the same talent but younger and signed for the next 8 years for a guy who's unsigned and could be free in a few years or cost a lot more, especially if he wants to win and we are nowhere near that? Where's the win for Montreal? Just because the guy speaks French doesn't mean we'd do anything to get him. Suzuki and the 62nd for PLD and the 14th is my offer, do you do that? I don't think so. I'm not even sure I want to do it as it's a sideways move at best.
- YodaOldBoy

Suzuki is 13 months younger than PLD, which is not lots. It’s a hockey trade. Both are not the same type of center. Montreal has shown a preference for French speaking players over the years. See the Sergachev for Drouin deal.

Suzuki is 13 months younger than PLD, which is not lots. It’s a hockey trade. Both are not the same type of center. Montreal has shown a preference for French speaking players over the years. See the Sergachev for Drouin deal.
- TheUltimateJet

And see how that trade turned out. That GM has been canned since. Because a stupid trade was made, we should do another one? Really? You think they hired new guys to make the same mistakes?

If your trade makes sense, we'll happily get the French speaking one, but you are asking a signed younger player with a better ceiling in a 1v1 trade. Have you seen Suzuki's stats after St. Louis became coach? 34 pts in 37 games (0,92 pts/gm), Dubois had 27 pts over 39 games in that same time frame (0,69 pts/gm), which is basically his career average (0,66 pts/gm). Point is, Dubois has been and will be a 60 pts/season player and Suzuki could become a 70 pts/season player or more if he keeps getting better. He's also signed. And younger. And you want him straight up? Like, are you being deliberately obtuse?

Dubois is not a problem. He has stated that he wants to “wait and see” what direction the Jets are headed in prior to signing long-term.

With that in mind rumours about him wanting to play in Montreal have been there since he played in Columbus. I still think Nick Suzuki for PLD makes sense to both teams. PLD would not have a problem with the Canadiens rebuilding, whereas his patience may be short in Winnipeg.
- TheUltimateJet

I think the value is similar, but I don't think there is any chance Montreal trades Suzuki for Dubois. Why would they? He is their 1C, it would be a lateral move if anything, and Suzuki is already signed to a pretty decent contract. Maybe a bit more that I would like as a Habs fan, but certainly not close to a bad deal or anything. If the Habs wanted to get Dubois as the 1B behind Suzuki it would likely be a mix of picks and roster players. They are rebuilding, they dont want to give up what Winnipeg wants. I don't see the fit as trade partners, personally