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mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jul 4 @ 3:07 PM ET
He would be a cheap option for the Oilers who lost their 2 goalies or so it seems. They could then spent elsewhere.
- deadpoulet

The thing with Allen is that he could never be a true 50-60 game starter. Why the Blues were always trading for goalies. If the Oilers trade for him then they are looking at getting another 1B goalie.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 3:08 PM ET
yes but it's rather unlikely that Price returns, and Primeau needs more time in the AHL. plus, Allen is a very good backup but he doesn't have the value of a #1, it's not like the return would be that amazing. like I said, I don't get it, oh well lol
- Pat1993

It's called assest management. You get something out of an asset instead of losing it for nothing. They can still sign Montembaum on the cheap and get a vet on the UFA market. It's not like it would be the end of the world or something.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jul 4 @ 3:08 PM ET
yes but it's rather unlikely that Price returns, and Primeau needs more time in the AHL. plus, Allen is a very good backup but he doesn't have the value of a #1, it's not like the return would be that amazing. like I said, I don't get it, oh well lol
- Pat1993


Even if Price returns, does anyone really believe he can play more than 25 games?
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 3:10 PM ET
The thing with Allen is that he could never be a true 50-60 game starter. Why the Blues were always trading for goalies. If the Oilers trade for him then they are looking at getting another 1B goalie.
- mr.peanut


When healthy, I think he's better than Smith. And he's cheap, so they could get somebody else to split games with him.

Habs could use Barrie if they move Petry (maybe).
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 3:12 PM ET
Even if Price returns, does anyone really believe he can play more than 25 games?
- Mashadar


Oh, I don't think Price will return. But Habs could replace Allen, is what I'm saying. They will have to in a year or so anyway.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jul 4 @ 3:13 PM ET
The worst thing Hughes could announce at 2 is that he will leave the #1 choice to hb posters after they reach a conscensus.
- Réal_Ruelle



Worst??



Bergeron would still have a job had he done that..
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jul 4 @ 3:14 PM ET
When healthy, I think he's better than Smith. And he's cheap, so they could get somebody else to split games with him.

Habs could use Barrie if they move Petry (maybe).

- deadpoulet

He is better than Smith, and so are you. It doesn't change the fact that if you get Allen you need to get another 40 game goalie. The Oilers are fed up of have 2 40 game guys.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 4 @ 3:14 PM ET
It's called assest management. You get something out of an asset instead of losing it for nothing. They can still sign Montembaum on the cheap and get a vet on the UFA market. It's not like it would be the end of the world or something.
- deadpoulet



yup, which is precisely why I would keep him. he isn't a true #1 goalie but he's among the top backups, which is perfect for the habs right now if you anticipate finishing low in the standings, while not being completely humiliated all year long. no point in acquiring a vet elsewhere, you already have him. let bygones be bygones I guess.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jul 4 @ 3:15 PM ET
When healthy, I think he's better than Smith. And he's cheap, so they could get somebody else to split games with him.

Habs could use Barrie if they move Petry (maybe).

- deadpoulet


Smith is done, per reports.

He is going on LTIR for the last season of his contract.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 4 @ 3:15 PM ET
Even if Price returns, does anyone really believe he can play more than 25 games?
- Mashadar


nope. lol
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jul 4 @ 3:24 PM ET
I think it's pretty clear that they will start the season with Allen and Montembeault sharing the net 50/50 with Price on LITR.
at the tdl Allen is gone, replace him to finish the season by another vet they'll get for cheap or call up Primeau if he's ready.
jugkope
Location: Possibly at the Zoo
Joined: 07.19.2009

Jul 4 @ 3:25 PM ET
whatever they decide, I feel good about this management team. much much better.
and I don't know why, I'm starting to think they may go with Sly.

- fidopro


We already had Lefebvre, don't wanna go back there.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jul 4 @ 3:25 PM ET
yup, which is precisely why I would keep him. he isn't a true #1 goalie but he"s among the top backups, which is perfect for the habs right now if you anticipate finishing low in the standings, while not being completely humiliated all year
long. no point in acquiring a vet elsewhere, you already have him. let bygones be bygones I guess.

- Pat1993


I am not ready to throw in the towel on Allen.

Allen, if he had been healthy all season, would have been the team MVP - he stats really do not reflect on how well he played in front of that poopshow of a team in front of him.

I think there is a confidence in having Allen in net, rather than Monty or some other players.... less pressure on kids being scared of making mistakes because there is a feeling Allen can bail them out more often than not. Let the kids play, get confidence, learn from mistakes (rather than play too conservative and not grow).

That is how I see it, anyways.

stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jul 4 @ 3:27 PM ET
only 3 days left...


Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 4 @ 3:27 PM ET
I am not ready to throw in the towel on Allen.

Allen, if he had been healthy all season, would have been the team MVP - he stats really do not reflect on how well he played in front of that poopshow of a team in front of him.

I think there is a confidence in having Allen in net, rather than Monty or some other players.... less pressure on kids being scared of making mistakes because there is a feeling Allen can bail them out more often than not. Let the kids play, get confidence, learn from mistakes (rather than play too conservative and not grow).

That is how I see it, anyways.

- Mashadar



this, 1000%.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jul 4 @ 3:27 PM ET
It's called assest management. You get something out of an asset instead of losing it for nothing. They can still sign Montembaum on the cheap and get a vet on the UFA market. It's not like it would be the end of the world or something.
- deadpoulet


Realistically, what is the best case scenario return for Allen?

Maybe, if someone is desperate, a 3rd round pick.

Maybe.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 3:40 PM ET
I think it's pretty clear that they will start the season with Allen and Montembeault sharing the net 50/50 with Price on LITR.
at the tdl Allen is gone, replace him to finish the season by another vet they'll get for cheap or call up Primeau if he's ready.

- fidopro


Yeah, I guess it's more a TDL move. But the Oilers need 2 goalies to start the season.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 3:42 PM ET
Realistically, what is the best case scenario return for Allen?

Maybe, if someone is desperate, a 3rd round pick.

Maybe.

- Mashadar


I don't know, Oilers are desperate and they need to clear cap space.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 4 @ 3:46 PM ET
I don't know, Oilers are desperate and they need to clear cap space.
- deadpoulet



thing is the habs will also be looking at clearing cap space more than taking another contract in return
AGalchenyuk27
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Jul 4 @ 3:48 PM ET
Yeah, I guess it's more a TDL move. But the Oilers need 2 goalies to start the season.
- deadpoulet

Jack Campbell may sign there
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 3:50 PM ET
thing is the habs will also be looking at clearing cap space more than taking another contract in return
- Pat1993


Sure, but if they do move Petry, they will need to replace him. That will cost money.
TheInformer697041
Joined: 07.27.2021

Jul 4 @ 3:52 PM ET
Parait que la couvaison c'est un genre de spm aviaire et que ça aide leur régulation hormonale de leur refroidir le chest.
- Réal_Ruelle


Calvaire, c’est blog de hockey icitte, pas la Semaine Verte…

La semaine prochaine, on vous parlera de l’élevage du bison en Mauricie et l’accouplement de la pintade en Abitibi..
TheInformer697041
Joined: 07.27.2021

Jul 4 @ 3:55 PM ET
So, in the Jets thread, they are asking for PLD straight up for the the 1st OA or Suzuki. Told them "hell no", I guess I'm not the only one who thinks they are crazy?
- YodaOldBoy


Ca doit être Gramps qui post la…
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jul 4 @ 3:56 PM ET
Jack Campbell may sign there
- AGalchenyuk27


Jack Campbell is not the answer to anyone's question about goaltending, unless the question is what goalie should we not sign?
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 4:01 PM ET
Jack Campbell is not the answer to anyone's question about goaltending, unless the question is what goalie should we not sign?
- Mashadar


And he will cost a lot more than Allen, wich is why I said the Oilers may have interest there. He's cheap and they can spend elsewhere.
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