Je l'ai déjà mentionné plus haut, mon coco.
- deadpoulet

no

L'équipe s'est tout de même rendu en finale avant de perdre un paquet de vétérans.

La ligne de centre est une clef. Tu peux gagner avec un gardien ordinaire comme le Colorado, mais c'est rare de gagner sans un grand défenseur. Pis avoir un bon défenseur ne veut pas dire que tu ne comptes pas de buts. Aucun rapport, en fait.
- deadpoulet

avec le cap salarial ça se peut qu'une équipe ait dla misère à se payer des joueurs élites à l'attaque si il y a trop d'argent investi vers l'arrière, c'est pas mal ce qui est arrivé à nos glorieux. mais évidemment je suis pas en train de dire qu'ils ont pas besoin d'un vrai défenseur #1 non plus...

no
- mr.peanut

eee, oui

eee, oui
- deadpoulet

go to your coop

avec le cap salarial ça se peut qu'une équipe ait dla misère à se payer des joueurs élites à l'attaque si il y a trop d'argent investi vers l'arrière, c'est pas mal ce qui est arrivé à nos glorieux. mais évidemment je suis pas en train de dire qu'ils ont pas besoin d'un vrai défenseur #1 non plus...
- Pat1993

Ce qui a surtout fait mal au CH, c'est de mal repêcher année, après année. Pis oui, de donner trop d'argent à un tel ou un tel.

That's why I like Nemec, I think he's gonna make his partners look good discreetly and not get paid the ultra bucks. They might need to replace the partners from time to time as THEY get the big bucks but it should still be manageable.
- jugkope

hey, with all their picks maybe the habs will manage to make a trade and grab him, who knows...

Ce qui a surtout fait mal au CH, c'est de mal repêcher année, après année. Pis oui, de donner trop d'argent à un tel ou un tel.
- deadpoulet

ouin, ça sera pas tant difficile de faire mieux que qu'est-ce qu'on a vu dans les dernières années en termes de repêchage et de développement mettons...

Ce qui a surtout fait mal au CH, c'est de mal repêcher année, après année. Pis oui, de donner trop d'argent à un tel ou un tel.
- deadpoulet

When you have second line players, playing first line minutes (as you do not have anything better), you tend to play those second line players first line money... same for 3rd liners playing second and 4th playing 3rd line...

The Habs have chosen to pay those players, rather than let them walk, because they were so afraid of becoming a bad team / no playoff team.

And in doing so, they became what they were trying to avoid.

That is why I find it mind boggling when it came to Markov, Radulov, Danault, etc... but gave big money to lesser deserving players.

When you have second line players, playing first line minutes (as you do not have anything better), you tend to play those second line players first line money... same for 3rd liners playing second and 4th playing 3rd line...

The Habs have chosen to pay those players, rather than let them walk, because they were so afraid of becoming a bad team / no playoff team.

And in doing so, they became what they were trying to avoid.

That is why I find it mind boggling when it came to Markov, Radulov, Danault, etc... but gave big money to lesser deserving players.
- Mashadar

The non-signing of those 3 seemed like bergevin ego decisions

When you have second line players, playing first line minutes (as you do not have anything better), you tend to play those second line players first line money... same for 3rd liners playing second and 4th playing 3rd line...

The Habs have chosen to pay those players, rather than let them walk, because they were so afraid of becoming a bad team / no playoff team.

And in doing so, they became what they were trying to avoid.

That is why I find it mind boggling when it came to Markov, Radulov, Danault, etc... but gave big money to lesser deserving players.
- Mashadar

Bergevin left a huge mess, no doubt about it.

I think Hughes made a few good trades already, but this will take a while. After the trade Tampa just made, I think Petry will stay here for a while. They would have to replace him anyway.

When you have second line players, playing first line minutes (as you do not have anything better), you tend to play those second line players first line money... same for 3rd liners playing second and 4th playing 3rd line...

The Habs have chosen to pay those players, rather than let them walk, because they were so afraid of becoming a bad team / no playoff team.

And in doing so, they became what they were trying to avoid.

That is why I find it mind boggling when it came to Markov, Radulov, Danault, etc... but gave big money to lesser deserving players.
- Mashadar

don't sign Danault but sign Hoffman....that was brilliant

Button has the Habs drafting Wright and Gaucher..

Button has the Habs drafting Wright and Gaucher..
- AGalchenyuk27

I don't see Lefty sliding to the 26th spot

He does look great. It's just that he doesn't look like McDavid whom he had a similar rookie season to as prestigious 15 year old exemption status players. He killed the U18's and looked like he was going to be a star again in the U20's.
- AdamFrench

Yeah I haven't seen a lot of him but most of the issue seems to be he doesn't really dazzle.

Bergevin left a huge mess, no doubt about it.

I think Hughes made a few good trades already, but this will take a while. After the trade Tampa just made, I think Petry will stay here for a while. They would have to replace him anyway.
- deadpoulet

Yeah, not only with NHL contracts, but holes in the development pipeline.

That is why I think it is more like a 3-4-5 year turnaround than a 2 year turn around.

I really like what HuGo have done so far, and actually am pretty excited where this is going, but make no mistake, it is gonna be a couple of more frustrating years (at least).

EDIT: I think Petry is a deadline deal. Could be wrong.

don't sign Danault but sign Hoffman....that was brilliant
- Symba007

Danault didn't thank Bergevin for trying to underpay him, and he was having fun in press conferences. That's a big no-no.

I don't see Lefty sliding to the 26th spot
- Symba007

And yet I see a lot of people not wanting him before the Oilers' 2nd rounder, where he won't make it.

Yeah I haven't seen a lot of him but most of the issue seems to be he doesn't really dazzle.
- BINGO!

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I mean...have you read about Luca Caputi's system in Kingston this year?

Button has the Habs drafting Wright and Gaucher..
- AGalchenyuk27

Wrighty and Lefty, I like it.

Yeah, not only with NHL contracts, but holes in the development pipeline.

That is why I think it is more like a 3-4-5 year turnaround than a 2 year turn around.

I really like what HuGo have done so far, and actually am pretty excited where this is going, but make no mistake, it is gonna be a couple of more frustrating years (at least).

EDIT: I think Petry is a deadline deal. Could be wrong.
- Mashadar

oh, so you've changed your mind, noice...

oh, so you've changed your mind, noice...

- Pat1993

The earlier we trade him, the higher the chances he sinks the team we traded him to and we get a lottery pick tho

oh, so you've changed your mind, noice...

- Pat1993

I still feel he will not ultimately be traded, but (if it were to happen) I am not sure the Habs do it this summer... things that could change during the season that they feel some of the kids are progressing really fast and they want them on the NHL roster.

Trading Petry means also having to replace Petry. At this point, that is why I am not sure it makes sense to trade him now.

I still feel he will not ultimately be traded, but (if it were to happen) I am not sure the Habs do it this summer... things that could change during the season that they feel some of the kids are progressing really fast and they want them on the NHL roster.

Trading Petry means also having to replace Petry. At this point, that is why I am not sure it makes sense to trade him now.
- Mashadar

move him while you can and he still has some value. 3yrs left at 6.25M

The earlier we trade him, the higher the chances he sinks the team we traded him to and we get a lottery pick tho
- jugkope

haha... I definitely wanted him gone as soon as possible with the way he played last season, but chances are he'll be closer to his former self next year, I'd be really surprised if his game had permanently fallen off the rails like that. so even if he isn't traded right away he'll probably be generating interest from other teams during the season.

I still feel he will not ultimately be traded, but (if it were to happen) I am not sure the Habs do it this summer... things that could change during the season that they feel some of the kids are progressing really fast and they want them on the NHL roster.

Trading Petry means also having to replace Petry. At this point, that is why I am not sure it makes sense to trade him now.
- Mashadar

I think that's what Hughes was mentioning, that he'd be looking to acquire a veteran dman if Petry was traded, which is easier said than done.