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Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Jul 4 @ 12:14 AM ET
Which one, "death by polar bear is very common"?
- Tomahawk

Pay attention! That's on a different thread than the other tweet you posted.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jul 4 @ 2:02 AM ET
Which one, "death by polar bear is very common"?
- Tomahawk

That would be a hell of a way to go. Not one I’d choose.
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Jul 4 @ 6:02 AM ET
The player is worth that contract. He is good at everything. He is one of a dozen centers that are extremely well rounded.
- peesinwind

If he was 25 with less of an injury history or if the contract only went 4 years, he is worth it. But 30 years old, injury history and 8 years is a disaster. Maybe you can even justify it if we were relevant right now. And proof of this is no one would trade for that contract by giving up real assets and accepting the full salary
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 4 @ 6:14 AM ET
I don't know what you watch, but Myers absolutely has a problem with hockey IQ. The kid looked totally baffled most nights. He is big and can skate well for a big man, but if the brain doesn't match the physical skills it's all for naught. Teams will always take a chance on him because of his physical attributes, but man he looks lost when it comes to thinking the game. Nashville obviously had seen enough and they are the kings of churning out quality NHL defensemen. You have lost me on this one. Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout


Myers got away from what got him to the NHL. His ability to use his size and speed to his advantage. I’m not sure his hockey IQ is the issue, but his issues definitely originated between the ears. If a guy loses his confidence on the ice it’s sometimes tough to get it back. Players are always going to have ups and downs, but the ones who can adjust and learn from it can come out on the other side a better more dependable player. Not all guys can make the adjustments and some flame out. I wouldn’t write him off just yet….his solid play here early on was not a mirage. This is a big, big year for Myers.
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Jul 4 @ 6:14 AM ET
I think guys like Coots end up with team friendly deals. They get under valued because so much depends on points when players are up for contracts. Not that the other things don’t have any value when contract talks begin. I just think big number guys seem to have the riskiest contracts. But guys like Bassard are the ones that who can really have an impact on a season. Sorry board but I like the 200 foot players that many on here don’t like much. Not saying I don’t like a Mitch M. But I just value a Bassard type also.
- peesinwind

I'm not sure Brassard is a good comparison. He makes about a million dollars and has been for the last several years. I'll take Couturier at $1MM any day...
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 4 @ 7:27 AM ET
Nothing to do with smarts. That's nonsense. He had no issues with smarts or hockey IQ all through his development into the NHL. The Flyers ruined him and destroyed his confidence. Playing on a team with no defensive structure and catastrophic breakdowns. TB knows the tools are there but he just has to be "retooled" to get his confidence back.
- MJL

Flyers ruined him, yep no accountability on the player at all. The prior coaching staff called him out several times as he wasn't understanding what they were teaching him. Last not very long in Nashville, they get rid of his services.

Sometimes the player just isn't an good enough Cliff.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 4 @ 7:31 AM ET
I'm not sure Brassard is a good comparison. He makes about a million dollars and has been for the last several years. I'll take Couturier at $1MM any day...
- mr4tno

It isn't. Where the flyers are at re-signing him was/is a huge mistake. They could have got back a huge return for him as the team acquiring him would have had 2 playoff runs. Another missed opportunity.

Tony D given permission by Carolina to look for a deal. Love Tony D.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 4 @ 7:32 AM ET
Flyers ruined him, yep no accountability on the player at all. The prior coaching staff called him out several times as he wasn't understanding what they were teaching him. Last not very long in Nashville, they get rid of his services.

Sometimes the player just isn't an good enough Cliff.

- hello it's me 2050

A fresh start with Nashville, kid sucked, but it’s the Flyers fault. Sounds about right.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 4 @ 7:37 AM ET
https://twitter.com/Hocke...5E%7Ctwcon%5Es2_&ref_url=

Can't see the Flyers rolling with Sandstrum as the backup. Looks like more cap space will be used for a backup goalie imo.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 4 @ 7:39 AM ET
A fresh start with Nashville, kid sucked, but it’s the Flyers fault. Sounds about right.
- ClaudeFather

But but they ruined him beyond repair.....
Many players have looked good then dropped off never to be heard from again.

To simply blame the Flyers is misguided.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 8:00 AM ET
I don't know what you watch, but Myers absolutely has a problem with hockey IQ. The kid looked totally baffled most nights. He is big and can skate well for a big man, but if the brain doesn't match the physical skills it's all for naught. Teams will always take a chance on him because of his physical attributes, but man he looks lost when it comes to thinking the game. Nashville obviously had seen enough and they are the kings of churning out quality NHL defensemen. You have lost me on this one. Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout



Didn't look lost at any time before the 20/21 season. Fast tracked to the NHL as a undrafted first agent. Must of caught a virus or something that took away his hockey IQ. Maybe there is a vaccine for it. Since you don't seem to understand what it being said. I'm not saying that Myers doesn't have his issues on the ice. I'm saying it's not due to a hockey IQ issue.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 4 @ 8:00 AM ET
But but they ruined him beyond repair.....
Many players have looked good then dropped off never to be heard from again.

To simply blame the Flyers is misguided.

- hello it's me 2050

It’s extremely ignorant
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 4 @ 8:02 AM ET
Didn't look lost at any time before the 20/21 season. Fast tracked to the NHL as a undrafted first agent. Must of caught a virus or something that took away his hockey IQ. Maybe there is a vaccine for it.
- MJL

So his long summer off and fresh start with Nashville was still hampered by 1 poor season with the Flyers? And now he will be on his third team. Sometimes they don’t work out. You sound insane.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 8:04 AM ET
It’s extremely ignorant
- ClaudeFather




So ignorant that you can't make an effective argument against it



ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 4 @ 8:06 AM ET
So ignorant that you can't make an effective argument against it
- MJL

It’s hysterical that you think you’ve made an effective argument. My rebuttals were more than sufficient. You just have blinders on.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 8:07 AM ET
So his long summer off and fresh start with Nashville was still hampered by 1 poor season with the Flyers? And now he will be on his third team. Sometimes they don’t work out. You sound insane.
- ClaudeFather


I'm not at all surprised that you can't be educated on the sport. Yes, sometimes they don't work out. Myers had 27 games with Nashville. In and out of the lineup. Tough way to get your game back.

wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 4 @ 8:07 AM ET
A fresh start with Nashville, kid sucked, but it’s the Flyers fault. Sounds about right.
- ClaudeFather



I think both things can be true, Flyers did him no favors and deserves all the skepticism about being a real NHL D man. He is running out of chances
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 8:07 AM ET
It’s hysterical that you think you’ve made an effective argument. My rebuttals were more than sufficient. You just have blinders on.
- ClaudeFather



This is an example of your rebuttals. They speak to their own stupidity.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 4 @ 8:09 AM ET
This is an example of your rebuttals. They speak to their own stupidity.
- MJL

We still going to blame the Flyers when he struggles with his third team in 3 years?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 4 @ 8:09 AM ET
So ignorant that you can't make an effective argument against it
- MJL

Cliff the know it all fraud.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 4 @ 8:13 AM ET
I'm not at all surprised that you can't be educated on the sport. Yes, sometimes they don't work out. Myers had 27 games with Nashville. In and out of the lineup. Tough way to get your game back.
- MJL

Cliff is it possible that you know during practice and meetings he just wasn't picking things up? He wasn't getting with the program? Maybe that is why he was in and out of the lineup. Of course that can't be the case as you know what happened. He got screwed in Nashville as well.

How many of those 27 games did you watch in it's entirety?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 4 @ 8:45 AM ET
Cliff is it possible that you know during practice and meetings he just wasn't picking things up? He wasn't getting with the program? Maybe that is why he was in and out of the lineup. Of course that can't be the case as you know what happened. He got screwed in Nashville as well.

How many of those 27 games did you watch in it's entirety?

- hello it's me 2050

Couldn’t be Meyers fault , he was fast tracking to an all star D man
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 4 @ 8:51 AM ET
Ellis, Farabee, Fedotov, the Pharces are in mid season form.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jul 4 @ 9:03 AM ET
Myers got away from what got him to the NHL. His ability to use his size and speed to his advantage. I’m not sure his hockey IQ is the issue, but his issues definitely originated between the ears. If a guy loses his confidence on the ice it’s sometimes tough to get it back. Players are always going to have ups and downs, but the ones who can adjust and learn from it can come out on the other side a better more dependable player. Not all guys can make the adjustments and some flame out. I wouldn’t write him off just yet….his solid play here early on was not a mirage. This is a big, big year for Myers.
- landros 2


what else would it be. i questioned his hockey iq when he was with us. if it's not that then what would it be....the guy has all the tools for a d man.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 4 @ 9:04 AM ET
Cliff the know it all fraud.
- hello it's me 2050


Be honest... he's contributed a lot more to the level of discourse on this board than most people have. CBA, salary cap, systems... our understanding of those things would be diminished on here w/o him.

We can debate the tenor and style of his delivery, but he provides a service here... namely checking the fools so this place doesn't devolve fully into a full on facebook circle jerk.

Now... tell us exactly... what do you bring to the table? Besides your "gift" for pathetic nicknames...

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