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Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jul 3 @ 4:53 PM ET
The context is if there would be interest if Myers is bought out by TB and is a UFA.
- MJL


would take Myers over seeler at least.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 3 @ 5:24 PM ET
But they are likely to buy him out.
- bmeltzer


From Brisebois today:

BriseBois said the Lightning are not considering a buyout.

"No, our plan at this point is to work with Philippe Myers," he said. "We've liked him going back to his junior days. We really like his tool box. I've liked him in Philly. For whatever reasons things didn't work out for him at the tail end in Philly and in Nashville last season.

"He's only 25 years old, he's a 6-foot-5 (210-pound) defenseman with size and some physicality. He's a quality skater. He can improve his skating. In the past we've been able to work with players and provide them with resources to become better skaters. He has a huge shot. We think there are enough tools there that intrigue us enough to work with him and see if we can't help him reach the potential we saw in him not too long ago."


They're gonna turn him into a (frank)ing superstar, aren't they?
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 3 @ 5:48 PM ET
From Brisebois today:



They're gonna turn him into a (frank)ing superstar, aren't they?

- Tomahawk


probably
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 3 @ 5:49 PM ET
From Brisebois today:



They're gonna turn him into a (frank)ing superstar, aren't they?

- Tomahawk

If Nashville gives up on a D man there’s not much helping him. He has all the tools but the smarts just aren’t there.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Jul 3 @ 5:55 PM ET
This poor kid.
What a nightmare.
Can’t wait for the planet to eliminate the virus known as humans.
We are getting there faster then ever.

- konalover711


Put your money where your mouth is and start with yourself. Just sayin, buddy.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 3 @ 5:56 PM ET
From Brisebois today:



They're gonna turn him into a (frank)ing superstar, aren't they?

- Tomahawk

Key phrase “at this point”. Can’t see them paying that salary when they are still in win now mode.
rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 3 @ 6:05 PM ET
Rumor is Tampa will buy him out
- wcorvette

Brisebois was quoted saying they are not looking to buy him out. "We've liked him going back to his junior days, in the past we've been able t work with players and make them better skaters".


I still think they buy him out.

Edit: Leight.
rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 3 @ 6:08 PM ET
Farabee - Couturier - Atkinson

van Riemsdyk - Hayes - Konency

Laughton - Frost - Tippett

Lindblom - Brown - MacEwen

So a healthy roster currently looks like this. Not horrible but far from impressive

That is what you posted. If it isn’t a mock lineup then what do you call it?

- furio16

Noah Cates was pretty impressive at the end of the season. I would expect him in the lineup. I also expect Laczynski. Doubt Allison stays healthy to stay in the line up.
rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 3 @ 6:10 PM ET
From Brisebois today:



They're gonna turn him into a (frank)ing superstar, aren't they?

- Tomahawk


Sounds about right lol.
I still think they buy him out.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 3 @ 6:15 PM ET
Sounds about right lol.
I still think they buy him out.

- rayc16


Is there a reason to? They can dip into Seabrook's LTIR to sign Palat. Otherwise their roster is pretty set.
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Jul 3 @ 6:28 PM ET
This team has issues, however I don't see the Couts contract as anything near the biggest problem Our team is far better with him than without, If he were in last year, no way we were as bad as we finished, We had (have) no one in line to replace him, Really think he should have just walked?
- GPerogie

He absolutely should have been traded. Just do the math.....we are 5 years away from being relevant (if you are to believe the majority of the people), which means Couturier will be 35 making ~$8MM and 3 years left. Even if he were to return to a semblance of himself in the beginning (which is not a given), in 5 years we will be toast. We will be looking for ways to rid ourselves of that contract, which, of course we won't be able to because CF paid him mostly in bonus dollars. Not signing him would have been a PR nightmare, but a bullet that needed to be taken in the short term. Now if they had not traded for Ellis (damaged goods) and not signed Hayes to that ridiculous contract, then absolutely you take a chance and sign him.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jul 3 @ 6:38 PM ET
I want Ellis on LTIR so we can get Dumba (The Fletch Connection, also teammate of Debrincat in Portland) or possibly a Chychrun for JVR+ trade.

We did make a big push for Debrincat - a big offer is on the table.

I’m told there is absolutely a chance we end up with Johnny AND Debrincat before the season starts if the right moves could be made.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 3 @ 6:39 PM ET
Do you think teams avoid drafting Russian players Bill?
- langano


Some will. Some will try to grab players several rounds later. Some may stick with their rankings.
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Jul 3 @ 6:43 PM ET
CF=Charlie Brown
- wcorvette

Who walks in the classroom, cool and slow?
Who calls the English teacher, Daddy-O?

Charlie Brown, Charlie Brown,
He's a clown, that Charlie Brown!
He's gonna get caught,
Just you wait and see!
(Why's everybody always pickin' on me?)

- The Coasters



(Prehistoric MTV!)
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 3 @ 6:43 PM ET
I want Ellis on LTIR so we can get Dumba (The Fletch Connection, also teammate of Debrincat in Portland) or possibly a Chychrun for JVR+ trade.

We did make a big push for Debrincat - a big offer is on the table.

I’m told there is absolutely a chance we end up with Johnny AND Debrincat before the season starts if the right moves could be made.

- anti-lame


Chychrun apparently isn't getting traded unless its an obscene trade in ARI's favor.

And apparently the Flyers are trying to corner the market on undersized wingers.

Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jul 3 @ 7:00 PM ET
Chychrun apparently isn't getting traded unless its an obscene trade in ARI's favor.

And apparently the Flyers are trying to corner the market on undersized wingers.


- Tomahawk


I would trade for DeBrincat and risk they can sign him long term. 40 goal scorers are not exactly plentiful. Even if it means moving TK in a separate deal. I would like to keep both, but I would move TK to make room for DeBrincat.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jul 3 @ 7:01 PM ET
Chychrun apparently isn't getting traded unless its an obscene trade in ARI's favor.

And apparently the Flyers are trying to corner the market on undersized wingers.


- Tomahawk


We will officially represent the lollipop guild
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 3 @ 7:13 PM ET
We will officially represent the lollipop guild
- anti-lame


Debrincat 5'7 165
Brink 5'8 159
Atkinson 5'8 176
Gaudreau 5'9 165
Tuomaala 5'10 180
Konecny 5'10 187
Farabee 6'0 183
Big Frosty 6'0 191

I see no problem with this
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 3 @ 7:31 PM ET
Slava Malamud 🇺🇦
@SlavaMalamud

According to TASS, the would be @NHLFlyers goalie Ivan Fedotov will be sent to serve on Novaya Zemlya, an Arctic outpost. This, without a doubt, has been arranged by CSKA owner Igor Sechin, Putin's close friend, as retaliation for wanting to leave the KHL.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jul 3 @ 7:32 PM ET
Debrincat 5'7 165
Brink 5'8 159
Atkinson 5'8 176
Gaudreau 5'9 165
Tuomaala 5'10 180
Konecny 5'10 187
Farabee 6'0 183
Big Frosty 6'0 191

I see no problem with this

- Tomahawk


Maybe we can have a few of them form like Voltron and become DeBrinKinson and get one player that’s like 8 feet tall
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jul 3 @ 7:33 PM ET
Slava Malamud 🇺🇦
@SlavaMalamud

According to TASS, the would be @NHLFlyers goalie Ivan Fedotov will be sent to serve on Novaya Zemlya, an Arctic outpost. This, without a doubt, has been arranged by CSKA owner Igor Sechin, Putin's close friend, as retaliation for wanting to leave the KHL.

- Tomahawk


Yes I heard the Arctic as well but not the rest of these details thanks
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jul 3 @ 7:51 PM ET
They "owe" 295K for bonus overages -- that reduces this upcoming seasons cap hit by that amount
- corduroy


Yeah. I didn’t read his post close enough. I see what he is saying about overages.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 3 @ 7:52 PM ET
Yes I heard the Arctic as well but not the rest of these details thanks
- anti-lame


The place he got sent to is a "closed city" too, like a populated Area 51. Nobody is free to enter or leave without permission.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jul 3 @ 7:56 PM ET
Rumor is Tampa will buy him out
- wcorvette


Myers is worth a cheap price as an option. The guy has the tools. You never know if he puts them together eventually. But in the mean time he is serves able as 6/7 for sure.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jul 3 @ 7:59 PM ET
So are you saying the 8 year contract given to Couterier was a mistake? I kid of course it was a mistake.
- furio16


The player is worth that contract. He is good at everything. He is one of a dozen centers that are extremely well rounded.
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