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SuperSchennBros
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Jul 3 @ 2:34 PM ET
I did. That is the Flyers organizations goal these days.
- furio16

I don’t think anyone expecting to have the same roster now as in October.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 3 @ 2:38 PM ET
I don’t think anyone expecting to have the same roster now as in October.
- SuperSchennBros

this is philly expect to be disappointed
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 2:39 PM ET
My hope with #5 is the Flyers draft Jiracek if he is still on the board. Big, RHS defenseman that can shoot and shutdown opposing players is too good to pass up and exactly a cornerstone that the Flyers can build around. I would also like to see the Flyers trade TK, Lindblom and a prospect or two to get a high 2023 draft pick if the opportunity presents itself. Right now the Flyers have too many complimentary players and not enough top end talent, and the best way to get that talent is to pick in the top 5 or top 10. With a top 5 pick this year and with these trades the potential for two top 10 picks next year, the Flyers will finally be well on their way to rebuilding for real.
- jd250



Do you honestly believe that the Flyers could obtain a 2023 top 10 first round pick in what is supposed to be a banner draft? Tell me who the prospect is that they add to that to get a team to give that up?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 2:42 PM ET
Bill, do you think the Flyers would/should be interested in bringing him back as Ellis insurance, or was that bridge burnt prior to, or as a result of, the Ellis trade?
- Quetzalcoatl


With the right contract, I would absolutely take Myers back.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 3 @ 2:44 PM ET
Ok, well MacEwen plays 9:40 minutes on average, so he meets at least the standards of ice time you’ve requested. All fourth liners needing to play on the PK is questionable, especially when you sign or trade for players such as Couturier, Hayes and Atkinson.
- SuperSchennBros

He offers nothing positive. No matter how many minutes he plays. He is an offensive black hole. Bleeds goals and chances. Is the goal to try and win? If it is how anyone can want this guy in the lineup is unreal to me. You have better in house options who still have some upside.

No it is not questionable. If you have good PK guys it limits the minutes of your top offensive producers. Those 3 are also part of a shall we say bad PK unit.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 3 @ 2:45 PM ET
With the right contract, I would absolutely take Myers back.
- MJL

What is the right contract? Where are you playing him and with whom?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 2:46 PM ET
He offers nothing positive. No matter how many minutes he plays. He is an offensive black hole. Bleeds goals and chances. Is the goal to try and win? If it is how anyone can want this guy in the lineup is unreal to me. You have better in house options who still have some upside.

No it is not questionable. If you have good PK guys it limits the minutes of your top offensive producers. Those 3 are also part of a shall we say bad PK unit.

- furio16



There is simply no reason to bring McEwen back in my opinion. He is not a good player.
Quetzalcoatl
Location: Buffalo Sabres / Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 12.02.2009

Jul 3 @ 2:46 PM ET
With the right contract, I would absolutely take Myers back.
- MJL


Yeah, that’s what I was thinking as well, I just wasn’t sure where the relationship between him and the team stood at the time of the trade. Did the Flyers want to move on, or was he a player who Nashville targeted?
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 3 @ 2:47 PM ET
I don’t think anyone expecting to have the same roster now as in October.
- SuperSchennBros

Well can only go by what is currently on the roster. Either way I do not think no matter who they add, it will not be a playoff team. As you will also have to give to get.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 2:47 PM ET
What is the right contract? Where are you playing him and with whom?
- furio16


1 year vet minimum. He can compete for a 6/7 spot as a RH shot.
Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Jul 3 @ 2:48 PM ET
With the right contract, I would absolutely take Myers back.
- MJL


Why not? It was only 2 seasons ago that the Flyers talent evaluators had him slotted in as #1RD to start the season. How much could he have possibly lost since then. Lol
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 3 @ 2:48 PM ET
There is simply no reason to bring McEwen back in my opinion. He is not a good player.
- MJL

Total agreement. If he is back it speaks volumes to me.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 3 @ 2:49 PM ET
1 year vet minimum. He can compete for a 6/7 spot as a RH shot.
- MJL

Handedness is overrated to me. Is he an upgrade over Seeler?
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jul 3 @ 2:51 PM ET
But they are likely to buy him out.
- bmeltzer

Yea, Myers wasn't aquired because of his hockey merits.
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 3 @ 2:54 PM ET
He offers nothing positive. No matter how many minutes he plays. He is an offensive black hole. Bleeds goals and chances. Is the goal to try and win? If it is how anyone can want this guy in the lineup is unreal to me. You have better in house options who still have some upside.

No it is not questionable. If you have good PK guys it limits the minutes of your top offensive producers. Those 3 are also part of a shall we say bad PK unit.

- furio16


I think this is nonesense. There are 5 other players on the ice and wingers have the least amount of defensive responsibility.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 3 @ 2:57 PM ET
Feel terrible for Fedotov. Terrifying situation.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 3:21 PM ET
Feel terrible for Fedotov. Terrifying situation.
- arichardson22



Agreed. I don't even care about the effect on the Flyers. Innocent people caught up in this.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 3 @ 3:33 PM ET
I think this is nonesense. There are 5 other players on the ice and wingers have the least amount of defensive responsibility.
- SuperSchennBros

The data is out there to validate the statement.
Flyerfan2868
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 3 @ 3:34 PM ET
Myers part of the deal for Mcdonagh, 4 years left at 6.75, while Myers 1 year and could be bought out if needed
- wcorvette


Certainly an interesting trade, will have to wait and see if there's moves to follow, although I don't see McDonagh moving again....but, this move only points further towards the real reasons for Nashville dealing Ellis....there's no way you can say that move was strictly about the money looking at McD's contract.
SuperSchennBros
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Jul 3 @ 3:38 PM ET
The data is out there to validate the statement.
- furio16

For a guy who is bleeding goals, I’m really not sure what’s expected of him at even strength. MacEwen isn’t this incredible hockey player, I agree but when you’re playing with one AHL call up after another, Patrick Brown seeing his first NHL full season at age 29 and Nate Thompson when he’s cleared to play what is one player suppose to do? Was this in the data?
Flyerfan2868
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 3 @ 3:39 PM ET
Feel terrible for Fedotov. Terrifying situation.
- arichardson22


Totally. It's awful. I've read some crazy reports regarding that situation. Can only hope for the best now and perhaps his lawyer can actually help him somehow
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 3 @ 3:40 PM ET
For a guy who is bleeding goals, I’m really not sure what’s expected of him at even strength. MacEwen isn’t this incredible hockey player, I agree but when you’re playing with one AHL call up after another, Patrick Brown seeing his first NHL full season at age 29 and Nate Thompson when he’s cleared to play what is one player suppose to do? Was this in the data?
- SuperSchennBros

Google is your friend if you care to explore it any further.

What do you expect from a 4th line player?
SuperSchennBros
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Jul 3 @ 3:43 PM ET
Google is your friend if you care to explore it any further.

What do you expect from a 4th line player?

- furio16

Is google going to explain to me how 3 defensive pairs and all of his linemates just forget how to play hockey when MacEwen is in the ice?

My expectation definitely isn’t expecting one fourth line player to carry the rest of his team when they skate the ice together.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 3 @ 3:48 PM ET
Is google going to explain to me how 3 defensive pairs and all of his linemates just forget how to play hockey when MacEwen is in the ice?

My expectation definitely isn’t expecting one fourth line player to carry the rest of his team when they skate the ice together.

- SuperSchennBros

No need to continue as you think ZM in the lineup is not a problem.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
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Jul 3 @ 3:49 PM ET
No need to continue as you think ZM in the lineup is not a problem.
- furio16

I don’t. I think the Flyers have much bigger problems.
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