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david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Jul 7 @ 10:47 AM ET
That would be so bad Andersen is not worth a first round pick.bu himself and does not bridge the gap between 7th and 26th
- Mithos


I agree. Just based on what we've heard this is how I would see it going down.

Maybe swap some minor picks, swap 2nds maybe, to make it a little more fair. I would be quite opposed to this trade as well.
SensFan25
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 08.24.2006

Jul 7 @ 11:11 AM ET
I agree. Just based on what we've heard this is how I would see it going down.

Maybe swap some minor picks, swap 2nds maybe, to make it a little more fair. I would be quite opposed to this trade as well.

- david22

If they are going after Josh Anderson or Dvorak, there is no way that the #7 overall should be part of the deal.
HoweHatrick
Joined: 01.02.2014

Jul 7 @ 11:18 AM ET
Dreger is reporting that "Toronto continues to scour the goalie market. Kyle Dubas has also poked around on Sens goalie Matt Murray."

Anything on that front, without giving up something to the Leafs, would be a win.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Jul 7 @ 11:27 AM ET
Dreger is reporting that "Toronto continues to scour the goalie market. Kyle Dubas has also poked around on Sens goalie Matt Murray."

Anything on that front, without giving up something to the Leafs, would be a win.

- HoweHatrick


I'm not sure the Leafs could ever fit in the contract unless the Sens retrain signficant salary.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Jul 7 @ 11:29 AM ET
If they are going after Josh Anderson or Dvorak, there is no way that the #7 overall should be part of the deal.
- SensFan25


I agree.

We've all been so focussed on the 7th over all, would people be OK with Anderson if the cost was much lower. He would improve the RW.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 7 @ 11:32 AM ET
Dillon Heatherington #Sens
2 year / 2-way extension
$762,500 AAV

2022-23: $750k / $325k
2023-24: $775k / $325k
sens4life1971
Ottawa Senators
Location: smiths falls, ON
Joined: 02.16.2014

Jul 7 @ 11:34 AM ET
7th Overall

for

Anderson and 26th overall.


Dorion is going to "reach" with the pick either way, so in the end it doesn't matter...

- david22

You add Romanov and Zeitsev in swap and it’s a deal πŸ€™
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 7 @ 11:49 AM ET
From Elliotte Friedman

Hearing OTT & BUF were deep into conversations about a Matt Murray trade. Sabres are on his No-trade list, and Murray β€” as his his contractual right β€” stuck to his list.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 7 @ 12:03 PM ET
From Elliotte Friedman

Hearing OTT & BUF were deep into conversations about a Matt Murray trade. Sabres are on his No-trade list, and Murray β€” as his his contractual right β€” stuck to his list.

- Kevin Francis


Why would PD give Murray a NTC when he was an RFA?! OMG!
TDBSenatoR
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 09.28.2018

Jul 7 @ 12:12 PM ET
Why would PD give Murray a NTC when he was an RFA?! OMG!
- Kevin Francis


Because Matt Murray really didn't want to come to Ottawa and would have held out without that in there. Dorion had to have his big fish goalie and all he could think about was the 2017 playoffs.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 7 @ 12:18 PM ET
Because Matt Murray really didn't want to come to Ottawa and would have held out without that in there. Dorion had to have his big fish goalie and all he could think about was the 2017 playoffs.
- TDBSenatoR


But now Murray clearly knows he isn't wanted here, so why not go to Buffalo and become the starter and get away from DJ and PD, who have made it very known how they feel about him. There's no relationship at all with Murray.
Bartacus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.08.2019

Jul 7 @ 12:35 PM ET
From Elliotte Friedman

Hearing OTT & BUF were deep into conversations about a Matt Murray trade. Sabres are on his No-trade list, and Murray β€” as his his contractual right β€” stuck to his list.

- Kevin Francis


It's strange he wouldn't waive his NTC for Any destination, just to get out of dodge. You have to think it feels pretty toxic for him here. Maybe he prefers a scenario where he can float around on IR/healthy scratchland than he would getting regular rotations in Buffalo, where the top goalie is Craig Anderson? Maybe he blocks a move to spite the Sens for perceived poor treatment/waivers? What was with him refusing to play while healthy this year? All of these seem like poor professional choices... he's really too young to be establishing a rep as a difficult asset.
HoweHatrick
Joined: 01.02.2014

Jul 7 @ 12:58 PM ET
Perhaps he wants to go to a better team and is looking to Toronto? Does he really want that spotlight?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 7 @ 1:01 PM ET
Trade would have Been
Murray and 7
for
16
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 7 @ 1:04 PM ET
From Dreger!

The deal between Ottawa and Buffalo would have included the Sens retaining salary and Buffalo flipping the 16th pick for the 7th.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 7 @ 1:05 PM ET
From Dreger!

The deal between Ottawa and Buffalo would have included the Sens retaining salary and Buffalo flipping the 16th pick for the 7th.

- Kevin Francis



You dont give up a top 10 pick to unload a player the team doesn't want and retain salary too. Honestly, PD has NOOOOO business being an NHL GM! Just another notch in the belt for stupidity!
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 7 @ 1:05 PM ET
Trade would have Been
Murray and 7
for
16

- ImThatGuy


Your rookie GM would've fleeced Dorion!
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 7 @ 1:09 PM ET
From Dreger!

The deal between Ottawa and Buffalo would have included the Sens retaining salary and Buffalo flipping the 16th pick for the 7th.

- Kevin Francis


Had a source text me this after seeing how Ottawa was willing to move down.

"Also makes you realize they want to draft Rudger in the first round"

Quit building a roster for DJ and his hard rugged play, he wont be here at this time next year! OMG
Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

Jul 7 @ 1:15 PM ET
Why would PD give Murray a NTC when he was an RFA?! OMG!
- Kevin Francis

Unbelievable... fresh off a Stanley Cup win, Sakic trades a pair of 3rd round picks and a 5th and winds up snagging a very under-valued Georgiev from the NYR... vs. Dorion giving up a 2nd and a mid-round prospect to get Murray in the midst of a full-decline, and following it up with an unnecessarily long contract, with a NTC cherry on top.

Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 7 @ 1:15 PM ET
A Matt Murray buyout of remaining 2 years $6.25M Cap Hit & $15M Salary would save #GoSensGO $5M Cash, and the cap hit/savings would be:

Yr 1 $1.75M Cap Hit ($4.5M Savings)
Yr 2 $750K Cap Hit ($5.5M Savings)
Yr 3 $2.5M Cap Hit/Cost
Yr 4 $2.5M Cap Hit/Cost
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 7 @ 1:16 PM ET
Unbelievable... fresh off a Stanley Cup win, Sakic trades a pair of 3rd round picks and a 5th and winds up snagging a very under-valued Georgiev from the NYR... vs. Dorion giving up a 2nd and a mid-round prospect to get Murray in the midst of a full-decline, and following it up with an unnecessarily long contract, with a NTC cherry on top.
- khawk

Great post, I am going to tweet this out my page! Love it.
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Jul 7 @ 1:23 PM ET
If murray has Twitter I suggest you all go praise him as a hero for nixing what could have been one of the worst trades in NHL history, someone need to take dorion phone away before he destroyed this team
SensFan25
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 08.24.2006

Jul 7 @ 1:25 PM ET
You dont give up a top 10 pick to unload a player the team doesn't want and retain salary too. Honestly, PD has NOOOOO business being an NHL GM! Just another notch in the belt for stupidity!
- Kevin Francis

Saving money is the absolute top priority for the organization.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 7 @ 1:25 PM ET
If murray has Twitter I suggest you all go praise him as a hero for nixing what could have been one of the worst trades in NHL history, someone need to take dorion phone away before he destroyed this team
- Mithos


It was Murray's biggest save of the season lol!
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 7 @ 1:26 PM ET
Saving money is the absolute top priority for the organization.
- SensFan25


It's beyond getting ridiculous!!
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