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TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jul 2 @ 12:56 PM ET
I would think Montreal would want to move up a bit higher than 15th though, if they don't take Wright at 1OA. They badly need a centre that can be on their top 6.
I think they would be targeting Kasper, who, IMO, is a top 10 pick.

- Reubenkincade

It depends who they take first. If they take Slaf then I could see them wanting 15 ish to take whoever out of Kasper, Savoie or Geekie if they are there still. Or if they take Wright then they could be hoping to pick up A winger like Lekkermaki or a dman like Korchinski/Mintyukov if they slip. Depends on how things unfold.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 2 @ 12:58 PM ET
Apparently the team can take him to arbitration to get that reduced by up to 25%. They 100% would have tried and gotten that QO reduced imo.
- Retinalz

A reduction from the QO? Didn't they in the end?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 2 @ 1:07 PM ET
It depends who they take first. If they take Slaf then I could see them wanting 15 ish to take whoever out of Kasper, Savoie or Geekie if they are there still. Or if they take Wright then they could be hoping to pick up A winger like Lekkermaki or a dman like Korchinski/Mintyukov if they slip. Depends on how things unfold.
- TurdFergeson


Or they just keep those 2 picks and draft a centre and defenseman with those picks. At 26 they could grab a good centre like Gaucher, or maybe Pickering/Bischel on defense with those picks.

Who knows, but I am fine if Canucks decide that the right move is to trade down.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jul 2 @ 1:15 PM ET
Or they just keep those 2 picks and draft a centre and defenseman with those picks. At 26 they could grab a good centre like Gaucher, or maybe Pickering/Bischel on defense with those picks.

Who knows, but I am fine if Canucks decide that the right move is to trade down.

- Reubenkincade

Lots of possibilities. But they have out right said they can not draft 14 players in this draft. It’s just too many.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 2 @ 1:18 PM ET
Lots of possibilities. But they have out right said they can not draft 14 players in this draft. It’s just too many.
- TurdFergeson


It is a lot of picks. I am envious.

Canucks have preferred to acquire 5th, 6th and 7th rounders, over acquiring picks in the top 4 rounds.
Hopefully that changes, moving forward.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jul 2 @ 1:19 PM ET
Or they just keep those 2 picks and draft a centre and defenseman with those picks. At 26 they could grab a good centre like Gaucher, or maybe Pickering/Bischel on defense with those picks.

Who knows, but I am fine if Canucks decide that the right move is to trade down.

- Reubenkincade

As along as they have a target they believe in and will be there, i'm good with it as well, if it get you an extra pick. I'm so tired of having less picks in a draft then we should. A team that is missing the playoffs, has a very weak prospect pool, especially on defense, and holes throughout the roster, should have at least it's minimum number of picks. Roster turnover for picks and asset management of this franchise has been a big part of the issue for a long time. How many picks do some of the other non playoff teams have in this draft compared to the Canucks...
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 2 @ 1:22 PM ET
Some more draft rankings...

https://montrealhockeynow...-2022-nhl-draft-rankings/
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 2 @ 1:43 PM ET
As along as they have a target they believe in and will be there, i'm good with it as well, if it get you an extra pick. I'm so tired of having less picks in a draft then we should. A team that is missing the playoffs, has a very weak prospect pool, especially on defense, and holes throughout the roster, should have at least it's minimum number of picks. Roster turnover for picks and asset management of this franchise has been a big part of the issue for a long time. How many picks do some of the other non playoff teams have in this draft compared to the Canucks...
- carsonagenic

If you ain't first you're last.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 2 @ 1:48 PM ET
As along as they have a target they believe in and will be there, i'm good with it as well, if it get you an extra pick. I'm so tired of having less picks in a draft then we should. A team that is missing the playoffs, has a very weak prospect pool, especially on defense, and holes throughout the roster, should have at least it's minimum number of picks. Roster turnover for picks and asset management of this franchise has been a big part of the issue for a long time. How many picks do some of the other non playoff teams have in this draft compared to the Canucks...
- carsonagenic


Habs-14
Kraken-12
Sabres-11(3-1sts)
Sens-11
Coyotes-10(3-1sts& 4-2nds)
Wings-10
Sharks-9
Ducks 8(9 in 2023)
Hawks-8
Jets-7(2-1sts)
CBJ-6(2-1sts)
Flyers-6
Vegas-6
Canucks-6
NYI-5

Edit; I should have put Canucks ahead of Vegas, as Canucks have a 1st and Vegas doesn't. Flyers ahead of Canucks because of draft position.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 2 @ 1:54 PM ET
If you ain't first you're last.
- manvanfan




Kate D!ckie from GOT guests in the vid.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 2 @ 1:59 PM ET


Kate D!ckie from GOT guests in the vid.

- boonerbuck

Dont know who Kate is. Never seen game of thrones?

That guy is a one hit wonder?
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 2 @ 2:09 PM ET
Keep the gang together, don't trade anyone.
- VanHockeyGuy

No, no ,no, we need to trade everyone, Boudreau 658 Canuck win percentage needs to get worse. The Canuck fanatical base knows what's best, and everyone needs to get traded, why...just because.

But hey then there can be a million posts how (frank)ed up everything Canucks is.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 2 @ 2:11 PM ET
Can't be stressed enough how big of a deal many Canuck fans make things out to be that aren't a big deal at all. 😏
- manvanfan

👏👏👏
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 2 @ 2:19 PM ET
No, no ,no, we need to trade everyone, Boudreau 658 Canuck win percentage needs to get worse. The Canuck fanatical base knows what's best, and everyone needs to get traded, why...just because.

But hey then there can be a million posts how (frank)ed up everything Canucks is.

- Makita

Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 2 @ 2:19 PM ET
Canucks currently sit in 4th spot on capfriendly's list of highest payroll.
Not bad for a bottom 20 team.

- Reubenkincade

Bottom 20, where is this pulled from, guess they're drafting 5-6 overall cool.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 2 @ 2:22 PM ET
👏👏👏
- Makita

Thoughts on the coaching changes?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jul 2 @ 2:24 PM ET
It depends who they take first. If they take Slaf then I could see them wanting 15 ish to take whoever out of Kasper, Savoie or Geekie if they are there still. Or if they take Wright then they could be hoping to pick up A winger like Lekkermaki or a dman like Korchinski/Mintyukov if they slip. Depends on how things unfold.
- TurdFergeson

Kasper and Geekie... couple great picks if youres fan of big slow two way guys. Luckily JR has said many time he wants speed and skill.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jul 2 @ 2:24 PM ET
If you ain't first you're last.
- manvanfan

Yep.
This is how I look at team building.
The goal is to win the Stanley Cup, that is it.
Owners will make money, if you win the Cup.
Fans will be happy, if you win the Cup.
Most issues around a franchise will be positively resolved, if you win the Cup.

Let's say, it takes 7-9 years from Entry Draft to Cup contender. Player is 18 yr old to 25 - 27ish.
5 years in the Cup compete window, player is now 30 - 32ish. if you didn't win a Cup during this phase and the player isn't generational (Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr, etc) they are dealt for picks and young prospects. Sorry, time to rebuild. If they are generational, give them a bit longer till say 34, but repeat the sell for picks and prospects process.
You must have
1) Draft and develop window,
2) Team building window,
3) Cup compete window,
4) Sell, draft and rebuild window.
Team cycle of life...
The Canucks, NEVER DO THIS!
You need to suck bad to get the picks to be good, and you need to sell assets to get those picks. This middling team crap of "rebuild on the fly" and "stay competitive to just make the dance" only hurts your actual odds of winning the Cup, and find great and possible generational talents to make it happen.
But hey, 52 years of not doing this have worked out so well why change...

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 2 @ 2:27 PM ET
I love the 'other teams do it' excuse.
- Marwood

Yeah look at Tampa and Colorado tons of shit contracts.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jul 2 @ 2:27 PM ET
Habs-14
Kraken-12
Sabres-11(3-1sts)
Sens-11
Coyotes-10(3-1sts& 4-2nds)
Wings-10
Sharks-9
Ducks 8(9 in 2023)
Hawks-8
Jets-7(2-1sts)
CBJ-6(2-1sts)
Flyers-6
Vegas-6
Canucks-6
NYI-5

Edit; I should have put Canucks ahead of Vegas, as Canucks have a 1st and Vegas doesn't. Flyers ahead of Canucks because of draft position.

- Reubenkincade

That's gross, but keep it going

Look at Detroit now, getting ready to compete and still have 10 picks. Stevie Y
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jul 2 @ 2:30 PM ET
No, no ,no, we need to trade everyone, Boudreau 658 Canuck win percentage needs to get worse. The Canuck fanatical base knows what's best, and everyone needs to get traded, why...just because.

But hey then there can be a million posts how (frank)ed up everything Canucks is.

- Makita

Yes, the summer of tears. Ironic the people that want a tough team complain and cry more than anyone else
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 2 @ 2:33 PM ET
I know you will spout off on your views on analytics and WAR.

But you are sort of just flat out wrong

https://twitter.com/Teddy...HvsCtMSeA9R_67rJYYFw&s=19

- Codes1087

What a joke lol. Desperate Codes
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 2 @ 2:36 PM ET
Thoughts on the coaching changes?
- manvanfan

Green to Boudreau? Shaw to Yeo?
The 1st is a no brainer, I have no comment on Yeo or Shaw.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 2 @ 2:36 PM ET
If he can stay healthy, I'm going out on a limb and saying he will pot 35 goals next year
- Codes1087

Congrats Codes! You have earned the 2022 bath salts Cup! Quite an honouR as there are still 5 months left! 🛀 🧂 🏆
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 2 @ 2:37 PM ET
Bottom 20, where is this pulled from, guess they're drafting 5-6 overall cool.
- Makita


16 teams make the playoffs.

16 teams don’t make the playoffs.

Did the Canucks make the playoffs?

I guess technically they’re bottom 16 not bottom 20.

Math
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