This is a supposed weaker draft say compared to 2023. If 2023 then yeah maybe I stay at 5 and 7.

But say this year I can get one of the top players by moving to 3, maybe I prefer taking a shot on that guy.

I was just bored with all the Ellis stuff since its a medical thing. We will never know ALL the facts so thought I would create a new discussion.
- J35Bacher

You succeeded in creating a new discussion. Now you're just objecting to those who don't think your suggestions are realistic and disagree with it.

Everyone is saying the same thing….varying opinions on the top 10 with almost everyone.
- landros 2

AZ is a wild card i think.

It looks like it could go...

MON - Wright
NJ - Juraj Slafkovsky

AZ could go with Nemec since they could be moving Chychrun so they might want to inject some defensive depth to the system. Or they swing for the offensive game of Kemell. Or they just take the Cooley.

You succeeded in creating a new discussion. Now you're just objecting to those who don't think your suggestions are realistic and disagree with it.
- MJL

I am not objecting to anything. You presented a point

"3rd not worth that much"

I asked then what is it worth?

You state your points.

I bring what I feel.


Called a back and forth and discussion

So we talk about injecting high end talent but then when it comes down to it you prefer quantity over quality?
- J35Bacher

This isn't a draft where #3 has a much bigger potential to be a good player than #5 or #7. The gap between the first 7-8 players is tiny.

That doesn't mean every player is gonna work out the same, or even work out at all, but there's no way of knowing that today. I'd take more picks in the top-7 than just one shot.

AZ is a wild card i think.

It looks like it could go...

MON - Wright
NJ - Juraj Slafkovsky

AZ could go with Nemec since they could be moving Chychrun so they might want to inject some defensive depth to the system. Or they swing for the offensive game of Kemell. Or they just take the Cooley.
- J35Bacher

I agree there is no consensus…a few months ago I thought Wright at one all day long….now I’m not sure. Although I agree with your comment on the quality of the draft I think there is a great opportunity for the Flyers to get a guy that will be a fixture here for a long time. That parts exciting.

This isn't a draft where #3 has a much bigger potential to be a good player than #5 or #7. The gap between the first 7-8 players is tiny.

That doesn't mean every player is gonna work out the same, or even work out at all, but there's no way of knowing that today. I'd take more picks in the top-7 than just one shot.
- Tomahawk

Exactly. It would be one thing if you're using that to move up to snag a generational player but that's not the case in this draft.

This isn't a draft where #3 has a much bigger potential to be a good player than #5 or #7. The gap between the first 7-8 players is tiny.

That doesn't mean every player is gonna work out the same, or even work out at all, but there's no way of knowing that today. I'd take more picks in the top-7 than just one shot.
- Tomahawk

See but that is why i feel the other way.

If the draft was stronger then I would feel like "Ok, I got 2 top 10 picks so I can get more quality out of two picks".

It was just a thought.

I still feel like Ottawa is a team they can deal with though. The want a top 6 winger and I think Konecny fits that bill for them and signed to a reasonable deal since Stutzle will need a new deal soon.

But say this year I can get one of the top players by moving to 3, maybe I prefer taking a shot on that guy.
- J35Bacher

Even Wright, Slaf and Cooley are more like "top-six potential", not L1 locks. The top tier of this draft isn't worth paying the price to move up for.

Another note: Jonathan Lemieux G for the winning St.John Memorial cup winner last night is invited to the Flyers prospect camp…he looked really, really good last night.

Exactly. It would be one thing if you're using that to move up to snag a generational player but that's not the case in this draft.
- MJL

So if there is a generational player, who is moving that pick?

See but that is why i feel the other way.

If the draft was stronger then I would feel like "Ok, I got 2 top 10 picks so I can get more quality out of two picks".

It was just a thought.

I still feel like Ottawa is a team they can deal with though. The want a top 6 winger and I think Konecny fits that bill for them and signed to a reasonable deal since Stutzle will need a new deal soon.
- J35Bacher

Your bang on with we’re Ottawa is right now. They are definitely in a position to be able to move the pick.

So if there is a generational player, who is moving that pick?
- J35Bacher

No one….

I have to think that since it is most likely the top 3 are written in, well, if not stone then rapidly setting concrete, the Flyers, especially with the Ellis uncertainty, would take Nemec or Jiricek.

Personally I prefer Nemec simply because I think the Flyers need a dman with his skill set a little more than what Jiricek brings.

That being said, they are my top 2 choices.

And since they have both played with men already in their respective leagues, they would be a little closer to being ready to play in the NHL. Maybe even next season. They are both eligible to play in the AHL so that is also a plus.

I have to think that since it is most likely the top 3 are written in, well, if not stone then rapidly setting concrete, the Flyers, especially with the Ellis uncertainty, would take Nemec or Jiricek.

Personally I prefer Nemec simply because I think the Flyers need a dman with his skill set a little more than what Jiricek brings.

That being said, they are my top 2 choices.

And since they have both played with men already in their respective leagues, they would be a little closer to being ready to play in the NHL. Maybe even next season. They are both eligible to play in the AHL so that is also a plus.
- MBFlyerfan

Fletcher will trade the 5th for the 9th and a 2nd rounder. Then take the 9th and a 2nd rounder and trade for 8 6th round picks for next year. Then will smile at his presser after the draft talking about how he has plenty of capitol in a strong draft class.

Do you honestly believe that Ottawa would give the Flyers the 7th overall for Konecny and an AHL player?

The 3rd overall pick is not worth the 5th and the 7th overall.


Welcome to silly season.
- MJL

What would it take to get the 7th overall then Cliff in your opinion? You fraud.

You got it backwards. I'd rather keep the 5th and 7th.
- MJL

Not what he asked you Cliff.

Fletcher will trade the 5th for the 9th and 2nd. Then take the 9th and the 2nd and trade for 8 6th round picks for next year. Then will smile at his presser after the draft talking about how he has plenty of capitol in a strong draft class.
- Deasr1

That fool could rationalize anything lol

TIL that Homer offered G to Tampa for Paul Ranger in 2009, but their GM declined.

That fool could rationalize anything lol
- Tomahawk

If this GM thing doesn't work out. He has a future in teaching a used car salesman class.

I have to think that since it is most likely the top 3 are written in, well, if not stone then rapidly setting concrete, the Flyers, especially with the Ellis uncertainty, would take Nemec or Jiricek.

Personally I prefer Nemec simply because I think the Flyers need a dman with his skill set a little more than what Jiricek brings.

That being said, they are my top 2 choices.

And since they have both played with men already in their respective leagues, they would be a little closer to being ready to play in the NHL. Maybe even next season. They are both eligible to play in the AHL so that is also a plus.
- MBFlyerfan

I am 100% convinced whoever is NHL ready or the closest is who they will take.

TIL that Homer offered G to Tampa for Paul Ranger in 2009, but their GM declined.


- Tomahawk

Source?

Would anyone trade the #5 for Buff's #9 and #28?

Source?
- ClaudeFather

Brian Lawton admitted it on TV.

Also: https://twitter.com/RealB...status/319901637516865536

Would anyone trade the #5 for Buff's #9 and #28?
- hello it's me 2050

Only if they take back Risto as well.

Eklund's rumors for the morning. Of course the Flyers are linked to Johnny hockey, and he is saying that AZ and Seattle are interested in JVR. Giroux wants to stay in cushy Florida, but the rumor this morning is that the Pens would like to get Giroux to be their second line center if Igor leaves. Wonder what the fan base would think if Giroux donned a Pens jersey? All taken with a serious grain of salt cause it is Eklund after all. Thanks!