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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 30 @ 7:59 AM ET
Fletcher caught his frank and beans in his zipper on this Ellis trade. Self inflicted and lazy. Pretty embarrassing.
- dubc55


still employed though.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 30 @ 8:00 AM ET
https://phillyhockeynow.c...hier-nemec-david-jiricek/

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 30 @ 8:11 AM ET
https://phillyhockeynow.c...hier-nemec-david-jiricek/


- Deasr1



They aren't trading down. Fletch is doing his due diligence. He would be a fool not to talk to anyone who asks.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:27 AM ET
https://phillyhockeynow.c...hier-nemec-david-jiricek/


- Deasr1



Jiricek is going to be a very good NHL d man. If there’s a guy I think everyone is sleeping on it’s Savoie. Yes he is small, but this kid was a hockey child prodigy. Scouts said they hadn’t seen a kid this good at 15 in 20 years. If he was ‘6’1’ he’d be at the top of the draft. Kid has stupid skill….I liken him to a better version of Matt Barzel. A 90 point rookie rookie this year, in the W. I cringe when I think the Flyers are considering moving back…you take swings at the # 5 pick….don’t get cute. There’s a reason there aren’t very many top 5 picks traded….it’s stupid. Teams nucleuses are built on top of the 1rst round picks….good teams anyways.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 30 @ 8:28 AM ET
They aren't trading down. Fletch is doing his due diligence. He would be a fool not to talk to anyone who asks.
- MBFlyerfan



This just smells of stupidity. DeBrincat.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 8:29 AM ET
I got the moves.


To Ottawa: Konecny, Issac Ratcliff
To Philadelphia: 7th overall, Jacob Bernard Docker, 2022 3rd round pick

Then.....

To AZ: 5th overall, 7th overall, Lindbblom
To Philadelphia: 3rd overall

Flyers select Logan Cooley 3rd overall.




EDIT: Sorry, I was bored with arguing about the same issues everyday.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:31 AM ET
I got the moves.


To Ottawa: Konecny, Issac Ratcliff
To Philadelphia: 7th overall, Jacob Bernard Docker, 2022 3rd round pick

Then.....

To AZ: 5th overall, 7th overall, Lindbblom
To Philadelphia: 3rd overall

Flyers select Logan Cooley 3rd overall.



- J35Bacher



That’s a lot to give for # 3. I’d rather them stay at 5 and 7 in that scenario….if we were going to do the 2nd one make them take JVR’s contract.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 30 @ 8:32 AM ET
I got the moves.


To Ottawa: Konecny, Issac Ratcliff
To Philadelphia: 7th overall, Jacob Bernard Docker, 2022 3rd round pick

Then.....

To AZ: 5th overall, 7th overall, Lindbblom
To Philadelphia: 3rd overall

Flyers select Logan Cooley 3rd overall.



- J35Bacher

All this trouble for the third overall pick? I’d just keep both the 5th and 7th if you got 2 picks in the top ten.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 30 @ 8:32 AM ET
That’s a lot to give for # 3. I’d rather them stay at 5 and 7 in that scenario….if we were going to do the 2nd one make them take JVR’s contract.

- landros 2

(frank)! You beat me!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:35 AM ET
I got the moves.


To Ottawa: Konecny, Issac Ratcliff
To Philadelphia: 7th overall, Jacob Bernard Docker, 2022 3rd round pick

Then.....

To AZ: 5th overall, 7th overall, Lindbblom
To Philadelphia: 3rd overall

Flyers select Logan Cooley 3rd overall.




EDIT: Sorry, I was bored with arguing about the same issues everyday.

- J35Bacher



Do you honestly believe that Ottawa would give the Flyers the 7th overall for Konecny and an AHL player?

The 3rd overall pick is not worth the 5th and the 7th overall.


Welcome to silly season.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 8:37 AM ET
All this trouble for the third overall pick? I’d just keep both the 5th and 7th if you got 2 picks in the top ten.
- SuperSchennBros



I guess I don't see it as trouble.

You clear 8 million off the cap.
You gain a defense prospect in Bernard-Docker
And you get Cooley who some think could be the best player in the draft when all said and done as his ceiling is high.

Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 30 @ 8:37 AM ET
I got the moves.


To Ottawa: Konecny, Issac Ratcliff
To Philadelphia: 7th overall, Jacob Bernard Docker, 2022 3rd round pick

Then.....

To AZ: 5th overall, 7th overall, Lindbblom
To Philadelphia: 3rd overall

Flyers select Logan Cooley 3rd overall.




EDIT: Sorry, I was bored with arguing about the same issues everyday.

- J35Bacher


Trade all draft picks and players on the team for Bradley Beal. Then he can play quarterback and lead us to the World Cup.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 8:38 AM ET
Do you honestly believe that Ottawa would give the Flyers the 7th overall for Konecny and an AHL player?

The 3rd overall pick is not worth the 5th and the 7th overall.


Welcome to silly season.

- MJL


Better then JD and MJL female dog and moan season.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 8:38 AM ET
Do you honestly believe that Ottawa would give the Flyers the 7th overall for Konecny and an AHL player?

The 3rd overall pick is not worth the 5th and the 7th overall.


Welcome to silly season.

- MJL



So what's the 3rd overall pick worth?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 30 @ 8:39 AM ET
I guess I don't see it as trouble.

You clear 8 million off the cap.
You gain a defense prospect in Bernard-Docker
And you get Cooley who some think could be the best player in the draft when all said and done as his ceiling is high.

- J35Bacher

In what world?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:39 AM ET
Better then JD and MJL female dog and moan season.
- J35Bacher



I would disagree with that. I find it extremely entertaining.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:40 AM ET
So what's the 3rd overall pick worth?
- J35Bacher



You got it backwards. I'd rather keep the 5th and 7th.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 8:42 AM ET
You got it backwards. I'd rather keep the 5th and 7th.
- MJL



So we talk about injecting high end talent but then when it comes down to it you prefer quantity over quality?

Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 30 @ 8:43 AM ET
So we talk about injecting high end talent but then when it comes down to it you prefer quantity over quality?
- J35Bacher



If we are talking about wings.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:43 AM ET
So we talk about injecting high end talent but then when it comes down to it you prefer quantity over quality?
- J35Bacher


I guess we have a difference of opinion on if the 5th and 7th is quality.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 30 @ 8:45 AM ET
I think Kemmel is going early. Would not surprise me to see him drafted before both Nemec and Jiricek are off the board.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 8:49 AM ET
I guess we have a difference of opinion on if the 5th and 7th is quality.
- MJL



This is a supposed weaker draft say compared to 2023. If 2023 then yeah maybe I stay at 5 and 7.

But say this year I can get one of the top players by moving to 3, maybe I prefer taking a shot on that guy.

I was just bored with all the Ellis stuff since its a medical thing. We will never know ALL the facts so thought I would create a new discussion.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:50 AM ET
I guess I don't see it as trouble.

You clear 8 million off the cap.
You gain a defense prospect in Bernard-Docker
And you get Cooley who some think could be the best player in the draft when all said and done as his ceiling is high.

- J35Bacher



I don’t think your offer to Ottawa is far off at all. I liken it to Carter to Columbus for Vorecek and the 8th over all pick. It make sense because Ottawa can afford to move the pick….they are a very young talented team and adding a guy like Konecny fills a need. I’ve never seen Cooley play so that part eludes me, but as long as the Flyers add a stud prospect Fletch needs to be agressive.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:51 AM ET
I think Kemmel is going early. Would not surprise me to see him drafted before both Nemec and Jiricek are off the board.
- Trox88


Everyone is saying the same thing….varying opinions on the top 10 with almost everyone.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:54 AM ET
Better then JD and MJL female dog and moan season.
- J35Bacher



There will plenty of time to female dog and moan in the future if Fletcher drafts another “Patrick”.
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