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Load Management
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Vancouver Canucks
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Jun 28 @ 6:22 PM ET
Then it is a good thing you don't run a team. Not taking a winger would have left us likely drafting Roslovic or Juulsen in 2015.
- Retinalz


I think we're beyond this. The hole is gaping on D. If they are building a contender, they need to prioritize catching up with the best.

Wingers can be traded for. Good Dmen are costly and we simply don't have enough assets to trade for upgrades. Which is why we need to go heavy in the draft on that position.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 28 @ 6:28 PM ET
The only one worth it from La would be Clarke and I highly doubt they give you him and a first.
- TurdFergeson

BS...Sean Durzi, Brock Faber, Helge Grans and Jordan Spence are all good young right shot dmen, as well as Clarke.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 28 @ 6:31 PM ET
I think we're beyond this. The hole is gaping on D. If they are building a contender, they need to prioritize catching up with the best.

Wingers can be traded for. Good Dmen are costly and we simply don't have enough assets to trade for upgrades. Which is why we need to go heavy in the draft on that position.

- Load Management

100%
To me drafting wingers, outside of an Ovi type, is drafting the lowest, least valuable position. How much is a winger worth in a trade vs comparable D man?
I love how Nashville or NJ back in the day, always has some upcoming top flight D man or 2 over-ripened in the minors.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
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Joined: 01.04.2021

Jun 28 @ 6:31 PM ET
BS...Sean Durzi, Brock Faber, Helge Grans and Jordan Spence are all good young right shot dmen, as well as Clarke.
- LeftCoaster

Durzi and Spence aren’t prospects. They are nhl roster players. Grans is meh.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 28 @ 6:34 PM ET
Durzi and Spence aren’t prospects. They are nhl roster players. Grans is meh.
- TurdFergeson

Tomato / Tomaato - one has 64 NHL games and is 22 years old the other has 24 NHL games and is 20 years old. They're both good young dmen.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 28 @ 6:40 PM ET
There are said to be no top line players in this draft. A couple could make it to that level but when the top part of the draft is said to be middle six nhlers the bottom half of the first round are crap shoots. I’d bet a third of this 1st round never see the nhl or play a hand full of games at most. You want to trade Miller for that and some B prospect?? I’d take a hard pass and hold on. There will be better offers down the road.
- TurdFergeson


That's why i proposed JTM and 15th OA to Philly for

5th OA and 2023 1st rounder.

But people on here did not like that idea.


we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 09.29.2007

Jun 28 @ 6:42 PM ET
That's why i proposed JTM and 15th OA to Philly for

5th OA and 2023 1st rounder.

But people on here did not like that idea.

- dbot


Bold. I like it. But also want a D prospect
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
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Joined: 01.04.2021

Jun 28 @ 6:43 PM ET
That's why i proposed JTM and 15th OA to Philly for

5th OA and 2023 1st rounder.

But people on here did not like that idea.

- dbot


That would be interesting. You’d get one of the dmen at 5OA and a first in a much better draft next year. It would hurt though this season.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 28 @ 6:43 PM ET
Bold. I like it. But also want a D prospect
- we_are_all_canucks


At 5OA, you keep your finger crossed that either of Jiricek or Nemec are available.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 28 @ 6:43 PM ET
Tomato / Tomaato - one has 64 NHL games and is 22 years old the other has 24 NHL games and is 20 years old. They're both good young dmen.
- LeftCoaster



dbot
Vancouver Canucks
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Jun 28 @ 6:44 PM ET
At 5OA, you keep your finger crossed that either of Jiricek or Nemec are available.
- Reubenkincade



exactly.

you'd get a good D prospect with the 5th OA.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 28 @ 6:45 PM ET
That would be interesting. You’d get one of the dmen at 5OA and a first in a much better draft next year. It would hurt though this season.
- TurdFergeson


Many here are fans since the inaugural season, we are used to the hurt.
Load Management
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Vancouver Canucks
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Jun 28 @ 6:46 PM ET
100%
To me drafting wingers, outside of an Ovi type, is drafting the lowest, least valuable position. How much is a winger worth in a trade vs comparable D man?
I love how Nashville or NJ back in the day, always has some upcoming top flight D man or 2 over-ripened in the minors.

- carsonagenic


Nashville had enough depth to trade Weber and Jones, and not miss a beat.

I also think Carolina is up there. They've walked away from Hamilton, Faulk and Hanifin, barely noticed it.
we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
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Jun 28 @ 6:47 PM ET
At 5OA, you keep your finger crossed that either of Jiricek or Nemec are available.
- Reubenkincade

Nemec likely gone, but Jiricek would be awesome.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 28 @ 6:47 PM ET
exactly.

you'd get a good D prospect with the 5th OA.

- dbot


They both are tight shots, so an added bonus.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 28 @ 6:48 PM ET
Nashville had enough depth to trade Weber and Jones, and not miss a beat.

I also think Carolina is up there. They've walked away from Hamilton, Faulk and Hanifin, barely noticed it.

- Load Management


They also had some guy named Ryan Suter.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 28 @ 6:48 PM ET
That would be interesting. You’d get one of the dmen at 5OA and a first in a much better draft next year. It would hurt though this season.
- TurdFergeson


True...unless...
Trade Brock next.
Sign Nazem Kadri (j/k).

Pearson/Bo/Garland
Lockwood/Pettersson/Hogs
Kuz/Kadri/Pods
4th liners
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 28 @ 6:49 PM ET
They both are tight shots, so an added bonus.
- Reubenkincade


love me some tight shots.
Load Management
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Vancouver Canucks
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Jun 28 @ 6:49 PM ET
They both are tight shots, so an added bonus.
- Reubenkincade


Dude, that's disgusting.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 28 @ 6:49 PM ET
Nemec likely gone, but Jiricek would be awesome.
- we_are_all_canucks


Fine by me, as he is my preferred pick anyways, although I also like Nemec and have been talking about both these kids since last season.
theguvna
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 10.24.2019

Jun 28 @ 6:50 PM ET
Thank you Carol
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 28 @ 6:51 PM ET
love me some tight shots.

- dbot


Reubenkincade
Location: BC
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Jun 28 @ 6:51 PM ET
Dude, that's disgusting.
- Load Management


I gotta start proofreading.😁
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 28 @ 6:54 PM ET
Nashville had enough depth to trade Weber and Jones, and not miss a beat.

I also think Carolina is up there. They've walked away from Hamilton, Faulk and Hanifin, barely noticed it.

- Load Management

Center’s, defense and goaltending before wingers for me as well. Of course if you’re getting a generational talent the rules change a bit.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 28 @ 6:56 PM ET
Nashville had enough depth to trade Weber and Jones, and not miss a beat.

I also think Carolina is up there. They've walked away from Hamilton, Faulk and Hanifin, barely noticed it.

- Load Management

Yep.
D = Highest value commodity to use or trade
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