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TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jun 28 @ 5:34 PM ET
We need another first round pick from a Miller trade, at that point you decide on BPA or draft for position. Personally I think the organization needs to start building a home grown defensive core.
- LeftCoaster


You don’t want a pick from this draft. You want the 2023 draft. So either wait until after teams start missing out on guys they want later in the summer or tdl.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 28 @ 5:36 PM ET
Lambert plays C as well, but I think projects more like a winger. BPA at 15 and Lambert looks like he has high end skill.
- Retinalz

I’d rather they took a defenseman.

https://www.mckeenshockey...od-player-2022-nhl-draft/
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 28 @ 5:37 PM ET
You don’t want a pick from this draft. You want the 2023 draft. So either wait until after teams start missing out on guys they want later in the summer or tdl.
- TurdFergeson

I doubt teams will want to part with a 2023 first rounder so I’m perfectly happy with a 2022 first rounder.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jun 28 @ 5:43 PM ET
I doubt teams will want to part with a 2023 first rounder so I’m perfectly happy with a 2022 first rounder.
- LeftCoaster


There are said to be no top line players in this draft. A couple could make it to that level but when the top part of the draft is said to be middle six nhlers the bottom half of the first round are crap shoots. I’d bet a third of this 1st round never see the nhl or play a hand full of games at most. You want to trade Miller for that and some B prospect?? I’d take a hard pass and hold on. There will be better offers down the road.
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Jun 28 @ 5:44 PM ET
Not that, there's been some other chatter, we'll see.
- VanHockeyGuy


They will just wait for the browns to release him lol
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 28 @ 5:46 PM ET
What if say Cutter Gauthier is there at 15 and the highest rated D is Pickering and C is Ostlund? You pass on Gauthier?

15 seems to be where there is a lot of mock drafts start to differ in opinion.

- we_are_all_canucks


Cutter Gauthier wont be at 15. I believe he is consensus top 5, so I don't think there is that dilemma. But if he was, then yes you would take him as a winger. But as for a 15OA pick, we need D as the best D player available. If all the top D are picked, trade down and get Lian Bichel and another asset. We need to stop ignoring out dearth of D prospects and start loading up on them. For the future roster and well as as the trading commodity of Dmen, start drafting them! Old school NJ and Nashville style, load up on D.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 28 @ 5:47 PM ET
Good God….thankfully Benning isn’t employed any longer or he’d probably give him 9.5 million just to get it done.
- LeftCoaster

And telegraph it before hand ala OEL and pay 10.5 instead
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 28 @ 5:47 PM ET
Thanks Carol! No to Brad Lambert
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 28 @ 5:48 PM ET
Russians could fall easily based on politics.
- TurdFergeson

He is playing in Canada though so I doubt it will apply the same as if he was playing in the Motherland for a Russian oligarch team.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 28 @ 5:53 PM ET
Lambert plays C as well, but I think projects more like a winger. BPA at 15 and Lambert looks like he has high end skill.
- Retinalz

I have to disagree on BPA at all costs. BPA on D for me at this point. Like if another Virtanen at a higher position then a comparable D man was available, passing on the winger. I don't believe in drafting wingers unless they are elite Ovi types. DMen and C's hold higher value on a roster, in trades, and take longer normally to develop as the positions are harder.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 28 @ 5:53 PM ET
There are said to be no top line players in this draft. A couple could make it to that level but when the top part of the draft is said to be middle six nhlers the bottom half of the first round are crap shoots. I’d bet a third of this 1st round never see the nhl or play a hand full of games at most. You want to trade Miller for that and some B prospect?? I’d take a hard pass and hold on. There will be better offers down the road.
- TurdFergeson

I want to build the defence, I think there’s some good kids in this draft that can do that.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jun 28 @ 5:54 PM ET
I’d rather they took a defenseman.

https://www.mckeenshockey...od-player-2022-nhl-draft/

- LeftCoaster


I hope they go heavy on D the next couple of drafts. Right side in particular, throw in a couple Right C's and a Russian Goalie.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 28 @ 5:54 PM ET
I’d rather they took a defenseman.

https://www.mckeenshockey...od-player-2022-nhl-draft/

- LeftCoaster

Yep. all day every day. We need them badly in the pipeline. BDPA at every round this year and fill up the system.
we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

Jun 28 @ 5:56 PM ET
We need another first round pick from a Miller trade, at that point you decide on BPA or draft for position. Personally I think the organization needs to start building a home grown defensive core.
- LeftCoaster


We're going to get a good player at 15 but it is a good question; BPA or position? I agree that we need to build up our defensive prospects for development. There will be some interesting D prospects in the 2nd round.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 28 @ 5:56 PM ET
I hope they go heavy on D the next couple of drafts. Right side in particular, throw in a couple Right C's and a Russian Goalie.
- Load Management

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 28 @ 6:00 PM ET
There are said to be no top line players in this draft. A couple could make it to that level but when the top part of the draft is said to be middle six nhlers the bottom half of the first round are crap shoots. I’d bet a third of this 1st round never see the nhl or play a hand full of games at most. You want to trade Miller for that and some B prospect?? I’d take a hard pass and hold on. There will be better offers down the road.
- TurdFergeson

Every draft produces top 4 d and top 6 forwards. Some are just stronger than others.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 28 @ 6:00 PM ET
We're going to get a good player at 15 but it is a good question; BPA or position? I agree that we need to build up our defensive prospects for development. There will be some interesting D prospects in the 2nd round.
- we_are_all_canucks

D is the most important position to fix for this whole organization, we have OEL and Myers taking up 13+ million on the squad, GROSS! And on the farm there is Rathbone, and Woo that is now playing as a winger... FIX THIS BY DRAFTING ALL THE D YOU CAN!
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jun 28 @ 6:02 PM ET

- carsonagenic


Great minds. 👍
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jun 28 @ 6:02 PM ET
I want to build the defence, I think there’s some good kids in this draft that can do that.
- LeftCoaster

Than why not trade him for a really good d prospect that is more of a sure thing and closer to nhl. You can’t take blind chances with your best trade chips.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 28 @ 6:04 PM ET
I hope they go heavy on D the next couple of drafts. Right side in particular, throw in a couple Right C's and a Russian Goalie.
- Load Management

Me too, gotta start building a defensive core THROUGH THE DRAFT.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 28 @ 6:04 PM ET
I have to disagree on BPA at all costs. BPA on D for me at this point. Like if another Virtanen at a higher position then a comparable D man was available, passing on the winger. I don't believe in drafting wingers unless they are elite Ovi types. DMen and C's hold higher value on a roster, in trades, and take longer normally to develop as the positions are harder.
- carsonagenic

Then it is a good thing you don't run a team. Not taking a winger would have left us likely drafting Roslovic or Juulsen in 2015.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 28 @ 6:06 PM ET
Than why not trade him for a really good d prospect that is more of a sure thing and closer to nhl. You can’t take blind chances with your best trade chips.
- TurdFergeson

I think you could see both. A first rounder and a defensive prospect. Which would be awesome. LA is loaded with right shot dmen and they have the 19th pick I believe. A good fit perhaps.
we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

Jun 28 @ 6:08 PM ET
Then it is a good thing you don't run a team. Not taking a winger would have left us likely drafting Roslovic or Juulsen in 2015.
- Retinalz


Yep. Can't waste a first rounder. Happens too often.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 28 @ 6:13 PM ET
Then it is a good thing you don't run a team. Not taking a winger would have left us likely drafting Roslovic or Juulsen in 2015.
- Retinalz

You can't say I would have taken them...lol
You in the Okanogan? You seem to be a good cherry picker
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jun 28 @ 6:18 PM ET
I think you could see both. A first rounder and a defensive prospect. Which would be awesome. LA is loaded with right shot dmen and they have the 19th pick I believe. A good fit perhaps.
- LeftCoaster


The only one worth it from La would be Clarke and I highly doubt they give you him and a first.
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