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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 30 @ 12:15 AM ET
Waiting on Anderson is also an issue.
- SABRES 89

Waiting on Anderson is depressing
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 30 @ 12:16 AM ET
Waiting on Anderson is depressing
- sbroads24

yes it is
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 30 @ 2:08 AM ET
Waiting on Anderson is depressing
- sbroads24


It is what barely relevant, bottom of the league run teams do, and it is truly nauseating.
Leninthebuff
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 01.17.2012

Jun 30 @ 4:39 AM ET
Yes it is but I think it's going to be another year or MAYBE 2 before we see any FA signings as of now. Or should I say FA signings for big money, this team isn't there yet, Adams is still putting this together. Sucks but we have to wait, Adams has all the power and the Pegula's have all the faith in him.
- SABRES 89


Here's my thinking, if you have the chance to acquire a proven talent like Fiala or Cat you do it...what LA gave up isn't going to put a dent in there prospect pool.

As for our timeline, if Tuch fits it then Fiala and Cat fit it. You will get more production out of them than you will Tuch but the difference is $$$ and maybe leadership. Would I include JJ, probably not and if it was Quinn then I wouldn't be giving 16, more like 28 or 41. Faber was drafted at 45 so giving Johnson would be the logical choice. Minnesota had Faber and Johnson playing in there backyard so I'm sure they know both players extremely well.

As for the cap, by the time players like Cozens, Krebs, Peterka, Quinn etc are possibly in line for big money over half of the 7 yr contract will have expired and to be honest if half those names are getting a big contract then the Sabres will be lucky. Dahlin and Power will get there's of course.

For me I don't wait one year when the taking is there in front of you now.
Leninthebuff
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 01.17.2012

Jun 30 @ 4:51 AM ET
Waiting on Anderson is also an issue.
- SABRES 89


Wouldn't you think by now the Sabres would tell Anderson to shat or get off the pot, he and his family have had more then enough time to come to a decision...is he playing the Sabres to suck more money out of them?
Bufsaints8
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: TN
Joined: 07.20.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:12 AM ET
Here's my thinking, if you have the chance to acquire a proven talent like Fiala or Cat you do it...what LA gave up isn't going to put a dent in there prospect pool.

As for our timeline, if Tuch fits it then Fiala and Cat fit it. You will get more production out of them than you will Tuch but the difference is $$$ and maybe leadership. Would I include JJ, probably not and if it was Quinn then I wouldn't be giving 16, more like 28 or 41. Faber was drafted at 45 so giving Johnson would be the logical choice. Minnesota had Faber and Johnson playing in there backyard so I'm sure they know both players extremely well.

As for the cap, by the time players like Cozens, Krebs, Peterka, Quinn etc are possibly in line for big money over half of the 7 yr contract will have expired and to be honest if half those names are getting a big contract then the Sabres will be lucky. Dahlin and Power will get there's of course.

For me I don't wait one year when the taking is there in front of you now.

- Leninthebuff


Do we have a winger he can play with like Kane? Is cat scoring that many goals on our team? Is Fiala? I’m happy Greg stayed away.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:25 AM ET
Here's my thinking, if you have the chance to acquire a proven talent like Fiala or Cat you do it...what LA gave up isn't going to put a dent in there prospect pool.

As for our timeline, if Tuch fits it then Fiala and Cat fit it. You will get more production out of them than you will Tuch but the difference is $$$ and maybe leadership. Would I include JJ, probably not and if it was Quinn then I wouldn't be giving 16, more like 28 or 41. Faber was drafted at 45 so giving Johnson would be the logical choice. Minnesota had Faber and Johnson playing in there backyard so I'm sure they know both players extremely well.

As for the cap, by the time players like Cozens, Krebs, Peterka, Quinn etc are possibly in line for big money over half of the 7 yr contract will have expired and to be honest if half those names are getting a big contract then the Sabres will be lucky. Dahlin and Power will get there's of course.

For me I don't wait one year when the taking is there in front of you now.

- Leninthebuff


Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 30 @ 5:45 AM ET
Here's my thinking, if you have the chance to acquire a proven talent like Fiala or Cat you do it...what LA gave up isn't going to put a dent in there prospect pool.

As for our timeline, if Tuch fits it then Fiala and Cat fit it. You will get more production out of them than you will Tuch but the difference is $$$ and maybe leadership. Would I include JJ, probably not and if it was Quinn then I wouldn't be giving 16, more like 28 or 41. Faber was drafted at 45 so giving Johnson would be the logical choice. Minnesota had Faber and Johnson playing in there backyard so I'm sure they know both players extremely well.

As for the cap, by the time players like Cozens, Krebs, Peterka, Quinn etc are possibly in line for big money over half of the 7 yr contract will have expired and to be honest if half those names are getting a big contract then the Sabres will be lucky. Dahlin and Power will get there's of course.

For me I don't wait one year when the taking is there in front of you now.

- Leninthebuff

Damn Good Post!!
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 30 @ 7:30 AM ET
Here's my thinking, if you have the chance to acquire a proven talent like Fiala or Cat you do it...what LA gave up isn't going to put a dent in there prospect pool.

As for our timeline, if Tuch fits it then Fiala and Cat fit it. You will get more production out of them than you will Tuch but the difference is $$$ and maybe leadership. Would I include JJ, probably not and if it was Quinn then I wouldn't be giving 16, more like 28 or 41. Faber was drafted at 45 so giving Johnson would be the logical choice. Minnesota had Faber and Johnson playing in there backyard so I'm sure they know both players extremely well.

As for the cap, by the time players like Cozens, Krebs, Peterka, Quinn etc are possibly in line for big money over half of the 7 yr contract will have expired and to be honest if half those names are getting a big contract then the Sabres will be lucky. Dahlin and Power will get there's of course.

For me I don't wait one year when the taking is there in front of you now.

- Leninthebuff




We don't have the wealth of prospects like the Kings do. They're loaded, and that's why this won't make a dent.

We're also not coming off a 99pt year like they are. They're in a different spot altogether in their rebuild.

We also don't know who they asked for. You giving up JJ or Quinn? Maybe the Wild WANTED Faber, specifically. Maybe the Wild wanted a defensive prospect, which we have pretty much zero of (Laaksonen? That doesn't get that trade done, that's for sure).

Every time there's a trade made, 'The Sabres could've beat that!" How do we know?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 30 @ 7:34 AM ET
We don't have the wealth of prospects like the Kings do. They're loaded, and that's why this won't make a dent.

We're also not coming off a 99pt year like they are. They're in a different spot altogether in their rebuild.

We also don't know who they asked for. You giving up JJ or Quinn? Maybe the Wild WANTED Faber, specifically. Maybe the Wild wanted a defensive prospect, which we have pretty much zero of (Laaksonen? That doesn't get that trade done, that's for sure).

Every time there's a trade made, 'The Sabres could've beat that!" How do we know?

- Powerslave


There's talk that Faber wasn't going to sign with the Kings, which would put him in a similar situation as Ryan Johnson with the Sabres.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 30 @ 7:36 AM ET
We don't have the wealth of prospects like the Kings do. They're loaded, and that's why this won't make a dent.

We're also not coming off a 99pt year like they are. They're in a different spot altogether in their rebuild.

We also don't know who they asked for. You giving up JJ or Quinn? Maybe the Wild WANTED Faber, specifically. Maybe the Wild wanted a defensive prospect, which we have pretty much zero of (Laaksonen? That doesn't get that trade done, that's for sure).

Every time there's a trade made, 'The Sabres could've beat that!" How do we know?

- Powerslave


Wasn't the Sabres prospect pool just ranked number one this past season?

The Kings made multiple go for it moves last offseason to help supplement all their young players.

Without those moves, they were not a playoff team.

Perhaps Rob Blake was tired of losing?
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 30 @ 7:39 AM ET
There's talk that Faber wasn't going to sign with the Kings, which would put him in a similar situation as Ryan Johnson with the Sabres.
- kingcong39




Faber is easily a top 50 NHL prospect. Johnson probably isn't even top 100. Big difference.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 30 @ 7:41 AM ET
Faber is easily a top 50 NHL prospect. Johnson probably isn't even top 100. Big difference.
- Powerslave


There are some that think Faber is top 4 and potentially top pairing, and there are others that think he is a bottom pairing defenseman.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 30 @ 7:45 AM ET
Wasn't the Sabres prospect pool just ranked number one this past season?

The Kings made multiple go for it moves last offseason to help supplement all their young players.

Without those moves, they were not a playoff team.

Perhaps Rob Blake was tired of losing?

- kingcong39



The Kings are loaded. I count no less than 8 in the top 100.

They brought in Arvidsson and Danault. Arvidsson was on his way out after two sh!t seasons in Nsh. Danault wasn't exactly a world beater and had a career year in LA. Those weren't exactly sure-fire bets.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 30 @ 7:46 AM ET
There are some that think Faber is top 4 and potentially top pairing, and there are others that think he is a bottom pairing defenseman.
- kingcong39



Obviously the Wild think very highly of him, and that's all that matters. THEY traded for him.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 30 @ 7:49 AM ET
Good read on Goyette, who would be a quality pick for the Sabres at 28, or 41 if he somehow lasts until then.

https://theathletic.com/3...ource=user-shared-article
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 30 @ 7:53 AM ET
The Kings are loaded. I count no less than 8 in the top 100.

They brought in Arvidsson and Danault. Arvidsson was on his way out after two sh!t seasons in Nsh. Danault wasn't exactly a world beater and had a career year in LA. Those weren't exactly sure-fire bets.

- Powerslave


Scott Wheeler from The Athletic ranked the Kings 2 and the Sabres 1 in his prospects rankings for this season.

Who said they were sure bets? When is a trade or UFA signing sure bet?

What they didn't do was sit on their asses and just wait for their young players to see what they had.

They made the decision to bring in additional good players.

The Sabres have a strong prospect pool that will only be made stronger after the upcoming draft.

Trading a 2nd and a 3rd for example to bring in a quality player, and signing a UFA like Trocheck would help bolster their lineup and their chances of winning next season.

Why is there an issue with that approach? What is this now is not the time yet baloney?

That's a mentality losing organizations have.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:02 AM ET
Scott Wheeler from The Athletic ranked the Kings 2 and the Sabres 1 in his prospects rankings for this season.

Who said they were sure bets? When is a trade or UFA signing sure bet?

What they didn't do was sit on their asses and just wait for their young players to see what they had.

They made the decision to bring in additional good players.

The Sabres have a strong prospect pool that will only be made stronger after the upcoming draft.

Trading a 2nd and a 3rd for example to bring in a quality player, and signing a UFA like Trocheck would help bolster their lineup and their chances of winning next season.

Why is there an issue with that approach? What is this now is not the time yet baloney?

That's a mentality losing organizations have.

- kingcong39



I'm giving some alternative views to how they and other teams may be thinking, specifically with regard to this trade.

I certainly can't speak for KA. They obviously have their plan. As 36 likes to say, all we can do is see what the Sabres do.

One trade has been made, and we're already losing our minds. Let's see what they do.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:04 AM ET
I'm giving some alternative views to how they and other teams may be thinking, specifically with regard to this trade.

I certainly can't speak for KA. They obviously have their plan. As 36 likes to say, all we can do is see what the Sabres do.

One trade has been made, and we're already losing our minds. Let's see what they do.

- Powerslave


For me, it's not specifically about this trade.

It's about the bare minimum mind set that seems to be pervasive from Sabres management that is the big problem.

I don't care what Adams says or what insiders say regarding what the Sabres are doing regarding being active in trade talks or UFA's.

Results are all that matters.

If it's Anderson, Hinostroza, and somebody like Pysyk and nothing else, that's a huge problem.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 30 @ 8:09 AM ET
For me, it's not specifically about this trade.

It's about the bare minimum mind set that seems to be pervasive from Sabres management that is the big problem.

I don't care what Adams says or what insiders say regarding what the Sabres are doing regarding being active in trade talks or UFA's.

Results are all that matters.

If it's Anderson, Hinostroza, and somebody like Pysyk and nothing else, that's a huge problem.

- kingcong39

Good Hockey teams don't stop trying to acquire talent because there afraid of blocking a prospect. It just gives that team more usable assets. Sabres are stuck in that mindset that we are not ready for that or this. That's why talent leaves or doesn't want to be here.
RichardRoma
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.18.2017

Jun 30 @ 8:17 AM ET
Who here is a Kings fan this morning?
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:17 AM ET
For me, it's not specifically about this trade.

It's about the bare minimum mind set that seems to be pervasive from Sabres management that is the big problem.

I don't care what Adams says or what insiders say regarding what the Sabres are doing regarding being active in trade talks or UFA's.

Results are all that matters.

If it's Anderson, Hinostroza, and somebody like Pysyk and nothing else, that's a huge problem.

- kingcong39



Agreed. I will be thoroughly disappointed (but not surprised, unfortunately). They've got to do better.

I'm almost 51 years old. I was (frank)ing 39 when they were last eliminated from the playoffs. Time goes quickly. And trust me, I was as excited as anyone when they traded for guys like ROR, Kane, Lehner, etc. I'm just trying to be patient this time around with Adams.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:25 AM ET
Who here is a Kings fan this morning?
- RichardRoma


traitors. ive had my TML thong and Kucherov shirsey on since this past saturday.

GO BOLTS!
RichardRoma
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.18.2017

Jun 30 @ 8:26 AM ET
traitors. ive had my TML thong and Kucherov shirsey on since this past saturday.

GO BOLTS!

- TheSabresTaco

You're not going to order a Fiala jersey?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:28 AM ET
Agreed. I will be thoroughly disappointed (but not surprised, unfortunately). They've got to do better.

I'm almost 51 years old. I was (frank)ing 39 when they were last eliminated from the playoffs. Time goes quickly. And trust me, I was as excited as anyone when they traded for guys like ROR, Kane, Lehner, etc. I'm just trying to be patient this time around with Adams.

- Powerslave


I'm just going to wait until July 14th to lose my (frank)ing mind.
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