Me too. He coached Montreal well in the playoffs last year when Julien was out. He's paid his dues too.
- GPHawksfan

Sweet i was hoping for a zone defensive scheme.

Seth Jones rights to strome 2022 3rd for white Murry 7th overall 2nd 2023 Ridley craig
- Scott1977

You are too generous. It is probably too much salary coming back for the Sens. They have to sign a bunch of talented kids this summer and again next year.

You are too generous. It is probably too much salary coming back for the Sens. They have to sign a bunch of talented kids this summer and again next year.
- spatso

Just trying to make a hockey trade that benefits both teams

I am so &^%$ing tired of all of these posts about using the draft to rebuild the team. The number of draft picks that become true NHL caliber players is so low that it is mind boggling. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush, keep DeBrincat, he is like a golden goose. The players acquired for him will most almost certainly NOT be him or produce like him. Strome is a keeper too despite his up and down career. As for Kane, don't make the same mistake that was made with Bobby Hull. Make Kane a Hawk for life. Toews is another story entirely, he isn't even close to the player he once was. If he wants to go then trade him to anyone who will take him, retain half of his salary and suddenly you GAIN 5MM in cap space versus having a 30 point player making 10MM a year. The draft CANNOT shape a team in 5 years...too many draftees never amount to anything.

Sweet i was hoping for a zone defensive scheme.
- BetweenTheDots

Wonder how long before the BOD feels like this Canadiens fan

https://www.habseyesonthe...zegras-michigan-highlight

Wonder how long before the BOD feels like this Canadiens fan

https://www.habseyesonthe...zegras-michigan-highlight
- LAHawk

2nd regular season game.

2nd regular season game.
- boilermaker100

I would think more like the second exhibition game

Wonder how long before the BOD feels like this Canadiens fan

https://www.habseyesonthe...zegras-michigan-highlight
- LAHawk

Willing to put money on the first poster to complain?

I would think more like the second exhibition game
- LAHawk

If Murphy is still here, then by the time he first hits the ice.

I would think more like the second exhibition game
- LAHawk

Nah. I'll give him the full training camp. That's what many here said JC just needed.

Willing to put money on the first poster to complain?
- paulr

Does he shoot golf in the 70's?

Does he shoot golf in the 70's?
- boilermaker100

He says he does

I am so &^%$ing tired of all of these posts about using the draft to rebuild the team. The number of draft picks that become true NHL caliber players is so low that it is mind boggling. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush, keep DeBrincat, he is like a golden goose. The players acquired for him will most almost certainly NOT be him or produce like him. Strome is a keeper too despite his up and down career. As for Kane, don't make the same mistake that was made with Bobby Hull. Make Kane a Hawk for life. Toews is another story entirely, he isn't even close to the player he once was. If he wants to go then trade him to anyone who will take him, retain half of his salary and suddenly you GAIN 5MM in cap space versus having a 30 point player making 10MM a year. The draft CANNOT shape a team in 5 years...too many draftees never amount to anything.
- Chisoxhawk

There’s a lot of asinine opinions proffered on this board every day. This is one of those posts.

Vegas has handshake agreement with Reilly Smith on an extension. Take Broissoit with a sweetener off their hands.
- boilermaker100

Brossoit would be a good addition, but I’d make Vegas pay if they needed help.

Theo I really like the way you lay out your reasoning in a balanced way. I copied a section and reprinted over on the Sens thread where they are having the opposite debate of trading draft picks (#7 pick overall) for established players.

I have proposed that the Sens should offer the #7 pick plus a 2nd and 3rd (all from this year) plus Matt Murray and Colin White for Seth Jones. Sens fans think the offer is way too much.
- spatso

Thanks for the kudos, spatso. Appreciate it.

I'm not very good at trade proposals but try to make them balanced for both teams if at all possible. It depends on how well I know the other team's roster and cap situations.

For your trade proposal, I would make that trade but can understand why other Senators fans would not.

Here is a trade I fiddled around with weeks ago on CapFriendly. Your proposal seems more realistic to me.

Senators receive:
* Seth Jones

Blackhawks receive:
* Matt Murray
* Nikita Zaitsev
* Ridly Greig
* 2022 1st

The Hawks would need to take some salary back and taking back just one player with salary may not be enough hence why it's Murray + Zaitsev, not just one of them.

There’s a lot of asinine opinions proffered on this board every day. This is one of those posts.
- Ogilthorpe2

Agreed. Our cup years were build in the draft. and supplemented with a few good trades and a massive FA signing.

Kane
Toews
Bicks
Keith
Seebs
Crow
Bolland
Brouwer
Kruger

all hawks draft pics. yup sure can't build a winner thru the draft

Does he shoot golf in the 70's?
- boilermaker100

Not today unfortunately, i guess i shouldn't of said anything, 82 ain't bad.

Complain i will, passionate i am, but I'm so grateful i give people on this board purpose, BOD hahaha sounds like a kid

Thanks for the kudos, spatso. Appreciate it.

I'm not very good at trade proposals but try to make them balanced for both teams if at all possible. It depends on how well I know the other team's roster and cap situations.

For your trade proposal, I would make that trade but can understand why other Senators fans would not.

Here is a trade I fiddled around with weeks ago on CapFriendly. Your proposal seems more realistic to me.

Senators receive:
* Seth Jones

Blackhawks receive:
* Matt Murray
* Nikita Zaitsev
* Ridly Greig
* 2022 1st

The Hawks would need to take some salary back and taking back just one player with salary may not be enough hence why it's Murray + Zaitsev, not just one of them.
- Theo Fox

And I really don't think a team is going to give up a top 10 pick for Jones. Maybe a 1st in the 20's but top 10 especially 7th overall is likely crazy.

Agreed. Our cup years were build in the draft. and supplemented with a few good trades and a massive FA signing.

Kane
Toews
Bicks
Keith
Seebs
Crow
Bolland
Brouwer
Kruger

all hawks draft pics. yup sure can't build a winner thru the draft
- SaskHawkFan

It should go without saying, but…Not all draft picks will make it, but virtually everyone who makes it is a draft pick. The vast majority of the 2010 Hawks were drafted by the Hawks within a 5 year span.

Thanks for the kudos, spatso. Appreciate it.

I'm not very good at trade proposals but try to make them balanced for both teams if at all possible. It depends on how well I know the other team's roster and cap situations.

For your trade proposal, I would make that trade but can understand why other Senators fans would not.

Here is a trade I fiddled around with weeks ago on CapFriendly. Your proposal seems more realistic to me.

Senators receive:
* Seth Jones

Blackhawks receive:
* Matt Murray
* Nikita Zaitsev
* Ridly Greig
* 2022 1st

The Hawks would need to take some salary back and taking back just one player with salary may not be enough hence why it's Murray + Zaitsev, not just one of them.
- Theo Fox

done deal Theo and if they trade Debrincat and big if and another top 10 pick could be the start of the rebuild.

Didn't know Richardson is Chychruns Uncle. Sweet

I don't have a lot of confidence in their pool of prospects based on guys they have labeled as untouchable or drafted in certain slots.

Their internal scouting has been atrocious (historically) and how they have drafted on the blue line has been not good.

My assumption is they will be starting from square one but that could be incorrect as well.
- fattybeef

Agreed, it's not like Rockford had a fabulous defense.

I am so &^%$ing tired of all of these posts about using the draft to rebuild the team. The number of draft picks that become true NHL caliber players is so low that it is mind boggling. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush, keep DeBrincat, he is like a golden goose. The players acquired for him will most almost certainly NOT be him or produce like him. Strome is a keeper too despite his up and down career. As for Kane, don't make the same mistake that was made with Bobby Hull. Make Kane a Hawk for life. Toews is another story entirely, he isn't even close to the player he once was. If he wants to go then trade him to anyone who will take him, retain half of his salary and suddenly you GAIN 5MM in cap space versus having a 30 point player making 10MM a year. The draft CANNOT shape a team in 5 years...too many draftees never amount to anything.
- Chisoxhawk

You may want to consider that 95% of players in the nhl came through the draft.

And I really don't think a team is going to give up a top 10 pick for Jones. Maybe a 1st in the 20's but top 10 especially 7th overall is likely crazy.
- Theo Fox

Bowman did

Bowman did
- LFS

And some would argue that Bowman was looney tunes. Or at least very desperate.