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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 21 @ 5:21 PM ET
ummm. VAN signed him yesterday.
- paulozz


Lern 2 reed

I had this blog ready to go for today, but apparently the Canucks decided to move in and snake this idea away over the weekend. Here’s the blog anyways

- Ryan_Wilson

furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jun 21 @ 7:13 PM ET
My prediction from 3 days ago:

This series will go at least 4 games.

Also, have the Pens been scouting Japan? The next Taro Tsujimoto is out there.

- jmatchett383

Didn’t you post on the Flyers board at one point? Tired of watching losing hockey so you switched teams?
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 21 @ 7:33 PM ET
Speaking of VAN, if the Pens are unable to keep Geno. I wonder what it would take to get Miller.
- Rinosaur

More then it would be wise for the Penguins to trade right now
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 21 @ 7:35 PM ET
Best part of this is RW thought he had this good idea but GMJR already beat him to the punch. Nice to see those two are on the same page.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 21 @ 7:43 PM ET
Not really much new, but this is from Friedman on the Pat MacAfee show:

(ON Malkin) The sticking point as Friedman added was that, “I just heard the money wasn’t close.” Which also fits narratives that the two sides remain at points with different views of what a “good contract” should be for the aging, oft-injured but still productive center. (Both sides agree to 3 years)

According to Friedman, there are still gaps to bridge in the ongoing Kris Letang negotiation as well. “I heard the issue there was [that] someone told me they thought about $1.25 million apart per year”. Friedman did not mention anything about the length of the contract, in a positive or negative way.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:15 PM ET
Not really much new, but this is from Friedman on the Pat MacAfee show:

(ON Malkin) The sticking point as Friedman added was that, “I just heard the money wasn’t close.” Which also fits narratives that the two sides remain at points with different views of what a “good contract” should be for the aging, oft-injured but still productive center. (Both sides agree to 3 years)

According to Friedman, there are still gaps to bridge in the ongoing Kris Letang negotiation as well. “I heard the issue there was

- Tojo.[that] someone told me they thought about $1.25 million apart per year”. Friedman did not mention anything about the length of the contract, in a positive or negative way.

1.25 isn’t much at all. Get it done.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 21 @ 9:31 PM ET
1.25 isn’t much at all. Get it done.
- Victoro311


What if they’re offering 8.75m per year, you’d give him 10m?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 21 @ 10:02 PM ET
Best part of this is RW thought he had this good idea but GMJR already beat him to the punch. Nice to see those two are on the same page.
- Tojo.

JR isn’t the GM though.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 21 @ 10:48 PM ET
Not really much new, but this is from Friedman on the Pat MacAfee show:

(ON Malkin) The sticking point as Friedman added was that, “I just heard the money wasn’t close.” Which also fits narratives that the two sides remain at points with different views of what a “good contract” should be for the aging, oft-injured but still productive center. (Both sides agree to 3 years)

According to Friedman, there are still gaps to bridge in the ongoing Kris Letang negotiation as well. “I heard the issue there was

- Tojo.[that] someone told me they thought about $1.25 million apart per year”. Friedman did not mention anything about the length of the contract, in a positive or negative way.


Personally, it will be very difficult as a fan if Malkin doesn't get re-signed.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jun 22 @ 12:10 AM ET
What if they’re offering 8.75m per year, you’d give him 10m?
- j.boyd919

Yes and I wouldnt even think about it.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jun 22 @ 12:12 AM ET
Not really much new, but this is from Friedman on the Pat MacAfee show:

(ON Malkin) The sticking point as Friedman added was that, “I just heard the money wasn’t close.” Which also fits narratives that the two sides remain at points with different views of what a “good contract” should be for the aging, oft-injured but still productive center. (Both sides agree to 3 years)

According to Friedman, there are still gaps to bridge in the ongoing Kris Letang negotiation as well. “I heard the issue there was

- Tojo.[that] someone told me they thought about $1.25 million apart per year”. Friedman did not mention anything about the length of the contract, in a positive or negative way.

Pretty interesting he has more details than a lot of the local reporters.

For Malkin, I think they figure it out, but maybe not until he can talk to other teams. It just depends what Malkin wants in terms of non-$. A few years ago, he said he wanted to be the first Russian to win 4 Cups. I dont see a contender offering him big money. 3 years isnt ideal, but Id give it to him.

For Letang, if they are only $1.25M apart, get the damn deal signed. You just had Letang finish #7 in Norris voting. Get him resigned and lets move forward.

Shout out to Jarry for getting a 3rd place vote for the Vezina.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 22 @ 6:46 AM ET
Yes and I wouldnt even think about it.
- SuperHenderson13


You'd make a great GM.

"I like you as a fan, here's a blank check!"
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 22 @ 7:10 AM ET
Didn’t you post on the Flyers board at one point? Tired of watching losing hockey so you switched teams?
- furio16


He's been posting in here as long as I can remember. I find it funny that non-Pens fans usually have problems with other non-Pens fans posting here when most of us dont care about it at all hahah
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 22 @ 7:16 AM ET
He's been posting in here as long as I can remember. I find it funny that non-Pens fans usually have problems with other non-Pens fans posting here when most of us dont care about it at all hahah
- MattStrat


I have probably been on this blog (and the one before RW took over) longer than most Pens fans but...yeah, how dare I post on a non-Flyers blog!!!
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 22 @ 7:30 AM ET
What if they’re offering 8.75m per year, you’d give him 10m?
- j.boyd919


I don't know about that....fvck that's tough...he has a horrible injury history. Last season was the 3rd most reg season games he ever played in a season...an outlier. For a cap strapped team an extra 1.25 mill is a lot but you cant replace him either. Tough call for me but kind of lean towards giving him it.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 22 @ 7:30 AM ET
I have probably been on this blog (and the one before RW took over) longer than most Pens fans but...yeah, how dare I post on a non-Flyers blog!!!
- jmatchett383


hahah yeah it's strange
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 22 @ 8:11 AM ET
I'm kind of prepared for Tanger and Geno to go elsewhere, I wont be shocked...however what I wont be able to digest easily is if they take deals the Pens absolutely should of matched/signed them to. Hex's head on a stake if that happens with one or both of them.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jun 22 @ 9:14 AM ET
I'm kind of prepared for Tanger and Geno to go elsewhere, I wont be shocked...however what I wont be able to digest easily is if they take deals the Pens absolutely should of matched/signed them to. Hex's head on a stake if that happens with one or both of them.
- MattStrat


I am not prepared to see Letang go. Malkin... I just feel like it could be a John Tavares type situation where a star leaves a team and you think that it is going to crush them, but they actually end up a better team the next year. Don't get me wrong, I'd love it if he signed for a cheap deal but despite what he is saying about being willing to take a discount, I think the money side is more important to him than he lets on (can't hate him for that). I think his perception of a discount will be $8.7M and the Pens perception will be $6-7M.


Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 22 @ 9:26 AM ET
I am not prepared to see Letang go. Malkin... I just feel like it could be a John Tavares type situation where a star leaves a team and you think that it is going to crush them, but they actually end up a better team the next year. Don't get me wrong, I'd love it if he signed for a cheap deal but despite what he is saying about being willing to take a discount, I think the money side is more important to him than he lets on (can't hate him for that). I think his perception of a discount will be $8.7M and the Pens perception will be $6-7M.
- MacPatty

Islanders being better had everything to do with replacing Weight with Trotz and having Tavares would have only helped them.
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Jun 22 @ 9:30 AM ET
I'm kind of prepared for Tanger and Geno to go elsewhere, I wont be shocked...however what I wont be able to digest easily is if they take deals the Pens absolutely should of matched/signed them to. Hex's head on a stake if that happens with one or both of them.
- MattStrat



Right because it doesn't take two sides to sign a contact!
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 22 @ 9:31 AM ET
Right because it doesn't take two sides to sign a contact!
- stevens87

Reading is hard eh?
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Jun 22 @ 9:35 AM ET
Reading is hard eh?
- Feds91Stammer


I'm saying it may not matter what he does because the other side may just want to leave. They may not allow them to match either.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 22 @ 9:53 AM ET
I'm saying it may not matter what he does because the other side may just want to leave. They may not allow them to match either.
- stevens87

And them wanting to leave is GMRHs responsibility. He gets all the blame so long as they don’t get massive contracts elsewhere.
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Jun 22 @ 9:53 AM ET
I'm kind of prepared for Tanger and Geno to go elsewhere, I wont be shocked...however what I wont be able to digest easily is if they take deals the Pens absolutely should of matched/signed them to. Hex's head on a stake if that happens with one or both of them.
- MattStrat



So in your mind what are contracts for both that the Pens should absolutely match? If, of course, they are given the opportunity?
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jun 22 @ 9:58 AM ET
You'd make a great GM.

"I like you as a fan, here's a blank check!"

- jmatchett383

So phrased another way - what would be your plan to replace Letang instead of paying him that $1.25M?

There is no chance you compete next year without Letang. It's just a reality. You just got done paying Malkin $9.5M, you have plenty of cap room to sign Letang.

Letting your franchise dman, a guy who just finished 7th in the Norris voting, go over $1.25M is pretty stupid to me.
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