LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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I'd be happy if they moved 3 of them. - VanHockeyGuy
Agreed. Boudreau likes Myers so he ain't going anywhere. OEL is unmovable at present unless you pack him up in a Miller deal for a fleecing. Pearson Garland and Richardson will likely and should be gone. I'm willing to bet D!ckenson gets another shot with Bruce. Seemed to like the kid had some bad luck with injuries. We need a 3 LC badly and he can fill it if he has a decent year. |
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Starting to see this kids name show up as a possible pick at #15, by some blog sites that traditionally don't like big players.
Owen Pickering, LD, 6’5″, 180 lbs
The size is exciting and his tape gets you even more excited about what Owen Pickering can do if he continues to develop his game.
Pickering played in the WHL with the Swift Current Broncos this past season and got an opportunity to play with Canada’s U18 team — where he quarterbacked a power play with his big shot.
Obviously, the size is a big selling point with Pickering but once you see him skate, you begin to get very excited. It’s not just about how he skates up ice with the puck but scouts love his ability to break out the puck with his calm passing ability as well. When we spoke to Pickering on the Canucks Conversation podcast, he mentioned that he built his game on the back of being a smaller, puck-moving defenceman but then happened to have a huge growth spurt and quickly became a 6’5″ defenceman. Pickering’s skill with the puck is a tremendous asset in a similar way to a basketball prospect who was a point guard growing up and then grew to a small forward size.
There’s still so much rawness to Pickering’s game as he could be one of the players with the highest ceilings in the first round but doesn’t have the highest floor like a lot of top-20 projected prospects.
Pickering is still showing up late in the first round for some projections but we loved the person and the player definitely has one of the highest ceilings in the draft. He could end up being the most complete left-shot defenceman in this draft if he can get with the right team to develop him correctly over the next two or three years. |
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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Starting to see this kids name show up as a possible pick at #15, by some blog sites that traditionally don't like big players.
Owen Pickering, LD, 6’5″, 180 lbs
The size is exciting and his tape gets you even more excited about what Owen Pickering can do if he continues to develop his game.
Pickering played in the WHL with the Swift Current Broncos this past season and got an opportunity to play with Canada’s U18 team — where he quarterbacked a power play with his big shot.
Obviously, the size is a big selling point with Pickering but once you see him skate, you begin to get very excited. It’s not just about how he skates up ice with the puck but scouts love his ability to break out the puck with his calm passing ability as well. When we spoke to Pickering on the Canucks Conversation podcast, he mentioned that he built his game on the back of being a smaller, puck-moving defenceman but then happened to have a huge growth spurt and quickly became a 6’5″ defenceman. Pickering’s skill with the puck is a tremendous asset in a similar way to a basketball prospect who was a point guard growing up and then grew to a small forward size.
There’s still so much rawness to Pickering’s game as he could be one of the players with the highest ceilings in the first round but doesn’t have the highest floor like a lot of top-20 projected prospects.
Pickering is still showing up late in the first round for some projections but we loved the person and the player definitely has one of the highest ceilings in the draft. He could end up being the most complete left-shot defenceman in this draft if he can get with the right team to develop him correctly over the next two or three years. - Reubenkincade
I'd be fine with this pick.
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I'd be fine with this pick. - VanHockeyGuy
Bischel and him are my preference. Both are going to be solid defensemen.
If Korchinski is still available, which I doubt, the Canucks will hopefully get a choice of 3 nice defenseman to add into the system. |
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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Bischel and him are my preference. Both are going to be solid defensemen.
If Korchinski is still available, which I doubt, the Canucks will hopefully get a choice of 3 nice defenseman to add into the system. - Reubenkincade
We all know they need D but they'll probably pick BPA. D via trade perhaps.
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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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Bischel and him are my preference. Both are going to be solid defensemen.
If Korchinski is still available, which I doubt, the Canucks will hopefully get a choice of 3 nice defenseman to add into the system. - Reubenkincade
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We all know they need D but they'll probably pick BPA. D via trade perhaps. - VanHockeyGuy
As far as I am concerned, and many different draft sites and GMs don't see a big difference between #12 & #23.
This organization has so many holes to fill, it will be hard to argue against anyone they pick, but I think they need to add some quality at defense first and centre 2nd, before they consider any other player at a different position. |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Starting to see this kids name show up as a possible pick at #15, by some blog sites that traditionally don't like big players.
Owen Pickering, LD, 6’5″, 180 lbs
The size is exciting and his tape gets you even more excited about what Owen Pickering can do if he continues to develop his game.
Pickering played in the WHL with the Swift Current Broncos this past season and got an opportunity to play with Canada’s U18 team — where he quarterbacked a power play with his big shot.
Obviously, the size is a big selling point with Pickering but once you see him skate, you begin to get very excited. It’s not just about how he skates up ice with the puck but scouts love his ability to break out the puck with his calm passing ability as well. When we spoke to Pickering on the Canucks Conversation podcast, he mentioned that he built his game on the back of being a smaller, puck-moving defenceman but then happened to have a huge growth spurt and quickly became a 6’5″ defenceman. Pickering’s skill with the puck is a tremendous asset in a similar way to a basketball prospect who was a point guard growing up and then grew to a small forward size.
There’s still so much rawness to Pickering’s game as he could be one of the players with the highest ceilings in the first round but doesn’t have the highest floor like a lot of top-20 projected prospects.
Pickering is still showing up late in the first round for some projections but we loved the person and the player definitely has one of the highest ceilings in the draft. He could end up being the most complete left-shot defenceman in this draft if he can get with the right team to develop him correctly over the next two or three years. - Reubenkincade
You read Canucksarmy did ya 😉😉
We have talked about where I would prefer to draft him but as Faber says his floor isn't probably a top 20. So drafting at 15, he would have to most likely have to hit real near his ceiling for the pick to be good value. IMO. |
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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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Starting to see this kids name show up as a possible pick at #15, by some blog sites that traditionally don't like big players.
Owen Pickering, LD, 6’5″, 180 lbs
The size is exciting and his tape gets you even more excited about what Owen Pickering can do if he continues to develop his game.
Pickering played in the WHL with the Swift Current Broncos this past season and got an opportunity to play with Canada’s U18 team — where he quarterbacked a power play with his big shot.
Obviously, the size is a big selling point with Pickering but once you see him skate, you begin to get very excited. It’s not just about how he skates up ice with the puck but scouts love his ability to break out the puck with his calm passing ability as well. When we spoke to Pickering on the Canucks Conversation podcast, he mentioned that he built his game on the back of being a smaller, puck-moving defenceman but then happened to have a huge growth spurt and quickly became a 6’5″ defenceman. Pickering’s skill with the puck is a tremendous asset in a similar way to a basketball prospect who was a point guard growing up and then grew to a small forward size.
There’s still so much rawness to Pickering’s game as he could be one of the players with the highest ceilings in the first round but doesn’t have the highest floor like a lot of top-20 projected prospects.
Pickering is still showing up late in the first round for some projections but we loved the person and the player definitely has one of the highest ceilings in the draft. He could end up being the most complete left-shot defenceman in this draft if he can get with the right team to develop him correctly over the next two or three years. - Reubenkincade
Sounds good, too bad the Canucks are so loaded with LHD players/prospects. |
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You read Canucksarmy did ya 😉😉
We have talked about where I would prefer to draft him but as Faber says his floor isn't probably a top 20. So drafting at 15, he would have to most likely have to hit real near his ceiling for the pick to be good value. IMO. - manvanfan
I read many different sites and have been reading anything and everything I can about prospects, for well over 40 years now.
I don't always agree with what I read, but nowadays it is so much easier with access to so much more information and viewing capabilities.
Every year I mostly keep a close eye on about 20 of my main targets and maybe another 20 that I follow along with.
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Sounds good, too bad the Canucks are so loaded with LHD players/prospects. - 1970vintage
That made me choke on my beer. Lol |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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I read many different sites and have been reading anything and everything I can about prospects, for well over 40 years now.
I don't always agree with what I read, but nowadays it is so much easier with access to so much more information and viewing capabilities.
Every year I mostly keep a close eye on about 20 of my main targets and maybe another 20 that I follow along with. - Reubenkincade
Information on prospects thanks to analytics has really helped. Eliminates a lot of useless viewinf |
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Information on prospects thanks to analytics has really helped. Eliminates a lot of useless viewinf - manvanfan
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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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Sounds good, too bad the Canucks are so loaded with LHD players/prospects. - 1970vintage
Wtf lol |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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- Reubenkincade
You don't believe that the process has evolved over 40 years? NHL is committing more and more resources to analytics every year. Teams scouting staffs aren't getting larger but drafting has become much better over the past decade at least. |
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Load Management
Season Ticket Holder Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Billings Spit, BC Joined: 09.22.2019
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You don't believe that the process has evolved over 40 years? NHL is committing more and more resources to analytics every year. Teams scouting staffs aren't getting larger but drafting has become much better over the past decade at least. - manvanfan
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neem55
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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Information on prospects thanks to analytics has really helped. Eliminates a lot of useless viewinf - manvanfan
Combination of the two always seems best to me |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Combination of the two always seems best to me - neem55
It does to me as well. I never said it was one or the other. I said one helps out the other. The process of the two combined has bettered the chances of finding better players. |
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You don't believe that the process has evolved over 40 years? NHL is committing more and more resources to analytics every year. Teams scouting staffs aren't getting larger but drafting has become much better over the past decade at least. - manvanfan
Everything has evolved over the past 40 years, including the amount of people playing hockey, which in turn leads to better and more nhl players,the type of equipment used, the surgeries performed to fix an injury, the rules of the game, the training during the off-season, the quality of coaching, the amount of countries playing the sport, the amount of dollars being spent on research and development etc etc.
Some form of analytics has been used for decades, it is not something that just popped up overnight, and yes, even analytics have evolved, it has gone from +/- to 5v5, or some other traditional term to something else to appease the analytic crowd.
When watching a game, professional observers have always looked at why certain players are successful and others are not so successful. |
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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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Wtf lol - CanuckDon
It’s obviously an area of strength. OEL/Hughes/Rathbone. Set for a decade! |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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It’s obviously an area of strength. OEL/Hughes/Rathbone. Set for a decade! - 1970vintage
What about Jurmo and Gabrielsson? |
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What about Jurmo and Gabrielsson? - manvanfan
Canucks are definitely loaded on the left side. No point even considering drafting a LHD now. |
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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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What about Jurmo and Gabrielsson? - manvanfan
I honestly don’t know who either of those guys are, but thank you for strengthening my point. Loaded. |
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I honestly don’t know who either of those guys are, but thank you for strengthening my point. Loaded. - 1970vintage
Your point is well taken.
Kinda reminds me of a couple years back, when some here were saying the Canucks don't need anymore RW, as the pool was loaded with talent.
This organization is thin at all positions. |
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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Canucks are definitely loaded on the left side. No point even considering drafting a LHD now. - Reubenkincade
Most of the D projections in the first are LHD, maybe they address C first and miraculously acquire a second rounder and get RD then?
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