The most games played in a regular season Joel Farabee has seen is 63 games. He’s pretty much a 20 goal lock if he stays healthy and just turned 22 in February. Why exactly would Joel Farabee only be a second line player on a good team when he’s not even fully developed yet? Personally, my only issue with Farabee so far is, I don’t feel like his work ethic is up to par every night.
- SuperSchennBros

Joel Farabee is your best guy huh, now go look at Carolina NY Pitt Washington, would he be the best guy or close to it on any of those teams?

I was actually talking about “hello it’s me” but Claudefather is so insecure he thought I was talking about him…
- SuperSchennBros

Well you are not to bright yourself to be calling any one else any names seeing what you post daily. Do you ever read your own post?

Some teams do sure but a lot of those teams got hands on top prospects.

NJ got Hughes and Hischier 1st overall

Rangers picked Lafreniere, Kakko 1st and 2nd, Kravtsov 9th overall

Carolina got Svechnikov 2nd overall. Did well with Aho in round 2. CAR has actually moved a few 1st round players such as Bean, Hanfin, Fleury and Lindholm. Their 2nd round picks have been good as well.

Isles I wouldnt say are ahead of us. They got guys like Bellows, Barzal, Whalstrom and Dobson in the 10-16 range

Columbus is another team I wouldnt put ahead of us, they have prospects but none of them have really done anything yet. Their last successful pick was Texier in 2017

Pens, Caps dont really have much that Im aware of

Flyers have 2 top 5 picks in the last 20 years. JVR and Patrick. Lottery screwed us out of Patrick Kane one year and Patrick was a bust in 2017. Busts are actually common, the only reason people bring up Patrick is because Makar was in that draft. Had he not been, the patrick pick wouldnt be mentioned as much.

One thing Fletcher and Flahr have done well so far has been drafting. We got some good young players within the last few years. The thing we do need though is a potential elite player and this ios really our 1st chance since patrick to pick one but this draft doesnt appear like it will have an elite player in it unfortunately. You never know but nobody aside from maybe Wright and Cooley strike me as top talent.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Rangers have only had 2 top 5 picks in last 20 yrs( Kakko and Lafreniere ) also but have hit on other picks like Kreider..K Miller..Shesterkin..Schneider maybe Chytil plus a few high end guys like Othermann in the system. Have to hit on picks other then top 5 though clearly top 5 picks increase the odds. They made some real shrewd trades like getting Fox..Lindgren..Zibanejad..Strome..Trouba all for very little or nothing. Think about it whats the last really good shrewd trade the Flyers have made??

Joel Farabee is your best guy huh, now go look at Carolina NY Pitt Washington, would he be the best guy or close to it on any of those teams?
- ClaudeFather

I never said Joel Farabee was my best guy. He has plenty of time to improve and I think he will. He’s newly 22 years of age and just finished his third season.

I never said Joel Farabee was my best guy. He has plenty of time to improve and I think he will. He’s newly 22 years of age and just finished his third season.
- SuperSchennBros

That’s great. Flyers players don’t stack up to any of the good teams in the division.

Well you are not to bright yourself to be calling any one else any names seeing what you post daily. Do you ever read your own post?
- furio16

Actually I was being called names first. Some might called being provoked. Do I need to point out these posts to you or can you figure this out on your own? I even put a time frame to my post.

That’s great. Flyers players don’t stack up to any of the good teams in the division.
- ClaudeFather

Oh boy, we better trade him at this year’s draft. His value at this point will never be higher…

Oh boy, we better trade him at this year’s draft. His value at this point will never be higher…
- SuperSchennBros

And that’s the conclusion you drew from that? What happened to your job? Thought you don’t post mid day

Actually I was being called names first. Some might called being provoked. Do I need to point out these posts to you or can you figure this out on your own? I even put a time frame to my post.
- SuperSchennBros

Be the better man/woman.

And that’s the conclusion you drew from that? What happened to your job? Thought you don’t post mid day
- ClaudeFather

It’s called lunch break, we all get one. It’s literally noon right now…

Anyone who mentions the Nolan Patrick pick always follows up with Makar could have been picked. I dont hear anybody mention Pettersen or Heiskanen. At the end of the Day Makar is a franchise type player. He's huge among hockey fans. Heiskanen is a player you rarely hear people talk about. Petterssen maybe gets brought up but I feel like people forget about it. No one talks about Yakapov pick anymore, yes it happened 10 years ago but there was nothing like Makar in that draft but there were big names.

The fact that someone huge like Makar gets picked ensures people wont forget the Patrick Pick. I had to google the Yakapov pick
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

If you think the only reason why Patrick gets mentioned so much is because of Makar, that is mistaken. He was the 2nd overall pick that was a bust. It doesn't matter who was taken behind him. It just would've been someone else if not Makar.

Rangers have only had 2 top 5 picks in last 20 yrs( Kakko and Lafreniere ) also but have hit on other picks like Kreider..K Miller..Shesterkin..Schneider maybe Chytil plus a few high end guys like Othermann in the system. Have to hit on picks other then top 5 though clearly top 5 picks increase the odds. They made some real shrewd trades like getting Fox..Lindgren..Zibanejad..Strome..Trouba all for very little or nothing. Think about it whats the last really good shrewd trade the Flyers have made??
- hfc355

Have to consider things logically. First of all, Zibanejad and Trouba weren't acquired for very little or nothing. So that's obviously wrong. The secondary players the Flyers have would be better if they had elite players with them. That's what is missing here. The last shrewd trade the Flyers made was Gudas for Niskanen.

Rangers have only had 2 top 5 picks in last 20 yrs( Kakko and Lafreniere ) also but have hit on other picks like Kreider..K Miller..Shesterkin..Schneider maybe Chytil plus a few high end guys like Othermann in the system. Have to hit on picks other then top 5 though clearly top 5 picks increase the odds. They made some real shrewd trades like getting Fox..Lindgren..Zibanejad..Strome..Trouba all for very little or nothing. Think about it whats the last really good shrewd trade the Flyers have made??
- hfc355

Kreider was drafted in 2009 though. Hew was a 20 something goal scorer his entire career. He jumped out to 50 goals this year at 31 years old. It is unlikely he is going to maintain that.

Shesterkin is really good but dont forget he's 26 years old. People keep comparing him to Hart who is 3 years younger.

Rangers have won a lot of trades. No one will deny that and the Flyers havent made a trade in a long time where the end result has been a win for the Flyers but the Flyers have been a team with many holes and they are adding to try and fill holes today rather than build a contender in the future. Flyers unfortunately place profit ahead of all other aspects of the team. If the Flyers could rebuild and maked 180 mill a season they would but you cant, a rebuild will negatively affect profits so all they care about is making the team compete for a playoff position

Have to consider things logically. First of all, Zibanejad and Trouba weren't acquired for very little or nothing. So that's obviously wrong. The secondary players the Flyers have would be better if they had elite players with them. That's what is missing here. The last shrewd trade the Flyers made was Gudas for Niskanen.
- MJL

So you dont think giving up Brassard for Zibanejad was giving up very little for what turned into an elite 1st line center?????That was the steal of all their steals....and the Trouba trade was the first they got for Hayes and Pionk. Pretty fair deal both ways but I would rather Trouba

Kreider was drafted in 2009 though. Hew was a 20 something goal scorer his entire career. He jumped out to 50 goals this year at 31 years old. It is unlikely he is going to maintain that.

Shesterkin is really good but dont forget he's 26 years old. People keep comparing him to Hart who is 3 years younger.

Rangers have won a lot of trades. No one will deny that and the Flyers havent made a trade in a long time where the end result has been a win for the Flyers but the Flyers have been a team with many holes and they are adding to try and fill holes today rather than build a contender in the future. Flyers unfortunately place profit ahead of all other aspects of the team. If the Flyers could rebuild and maked 180 mill a season they would but you cant, a rebuild will negatively affect profits so all they care about is making the team compete for a playoff position
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I think thats where the Flyers organization is wrong. I think fans would rather see a rebuild then this being stuck in Purgatory for another 5 years

So you dont think giving up Brassard for Zibanejad was giving up very little for what turned into an elite 1st line center?????That was the steal of all their steals....and the Trouba trade was the first they got for Hayes and Pionk. Pretty fair deal both ways but I would rather Trouba
- hfc355

Brassard at the time of the trade was a 27 goal, 58 point player. If you consider that nothing than that's your prerogative but I don't share that opinion. There's a difference between a fair deal and nothing. Unless you also consider Pionk and 1st round pick to be nothing. Again, I don't.

Kreider was drafted in 2009 though. Hew was a 20 something goal scorer his entire career. He jumped out to 50 goals this year at 31 years old. It is unlikely he is going to maintain that.

Shesterkin is really good but dont forget he's 26 years old. People keep comparing him to Hart who is 3 years younger.

Rangers have won a lot of trades. No one will deny that and the Flyers havent made a trade in a long time where the end result has been a win for the Flyers but the Flyers have been a team with many holes and they are adding to try and fill holes today rather than build a contender in the future. Flyers unfortunately place profit ahead of all other aspects of the team. If the Flyers could rebuild and maked 180 mill a season they would but you cant, a rebuild will negatively affect profits so all they care about is making the team compete for a playoff position
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

What team generates more revenue, a team that is a bubble team that competes for the playoffs? Or a team that is a legit contender and goes on a deep playoff run?

Fletcher is likely on the hot seat in 2022-2023. Last season was despicable on and off the ice as many long-time fans were disengaging. Philadelphia used to be a hockey city. In 2021-2022, you could hear the opposing fans as they invaded the Wells Fargo Center. An organic style clash between Fletcher and Tortorella creates skepticism.

What sort of style clash? Tortorella may not mesh with the personnel Fletcher employs, for example, which is a critical element to a team in a middle of a retool or rebuild phase.
-PhillySportsNetwork

This will be very interesting to watch play out. Torts is a fiery personality and Fletcher is clearly not. I can see a scenario where Fletcher either moves up or moves out after 1 season of this.

What team generates more revenue, a team that is a bubble team that competes for the playoffs? Or a team that is a legit contender and goes on a deep playoff run?
- MJL

Obviously a contender but how much does the team lose over the process of becoming a contender? You have to rebuild and suck and often times the 1st rebuild doesnt work.

Have heard rumours the Flyers are looking at Debrincat

I think thats where the Flyers organization is wrong. I think fans would rather see a rebuild then this being stuck in Purgatory for another 5 years
- hfc355

Fans would not mind and in fact would prefer a rebuild, however I have to think Scott is keeping with the mindset of Ed Snider who was always in win now mode.

Obviously a contender but how much does the team lose over the process of becoming a contender? You have to rebuild and suck and often times the 1st rebuild doesnt work.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

That's the counter argument but if you can remain a good team over a significant period like TB has, does that earn more? The Rangers are going to go on a pretty significant period of contending that is going to earn a ton of revenue. Even when the inevitable down turn comes, there is still a residual grace period. Flyers need to learn that they need to get bad before they can get good. They'll never build a contender with their current philosophies.

Have heard rumours the Flyers are looking at Debrincat
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

e5? And where do I subscribe?

Have heard rumours the Flyers are looking at Debrincat
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Yes, read they were kicking the tires on a trade. However I don't see how the Flyers could pull this one off. First Debrincat is making $6.4M this coming season and then will be a UFA, and after coming off a 40+ goal season will demand an even larger financial commitment; the Flyers don't have the cap space. Second, the Flyers would have to part with quite a package to get him, consisting of picks, young players and a few veterans to make it work. Third, is Debrincat a game changer that is worth all this? I'd pass.

Yes, read they were kicking the tires on a trade. However I don't see how the Flyers could pull this one off. First Debrincat is making $6.4M this coming season and then will be a UFA, and after coming off a 40+ goal season will demand an even larger financial commitment; the Flyers don't have the cap space. Second, the Flyers would have to part with quite a package to get him, consisting of picks, young players and a few veterans to make it work. Third, is Debrincat a game changer that is worth all this? I'd pass.
- jd250

The trade would consist of cap moving the other way or in separate deals. Obviously, the Flyers would most likely be dangling the 5th overall.

Waiting on your response to my post responding to you calling me "sherlock"