Hexy had some solid years…but after the Lindros trade wasn’t the same.
- landros 2

Hexy was quite strange actually. We had season tickets in 1987 and saw those Finals games against the Oil. Hextall was unreal in that series. Gretzky said it was the best goaltending that he had ever seen. Hextall won the Conn Smythe in a losing effort. Unfortunately it was all downhill after that.

I pin it on bad gameplanning. In simplest terms the Flyers plan was to dump it into Lidstroms corner and pound him into oblivion. Lidstroms plan was to go get the puck and get it up ice long before the Flyers got near him.
- MBFlyerfan

The strategy that really did them in is Bowman decided that the best way to deal with the Flyers down low was to front them defensively, rather than battle for position. Keep the puck away from the net and the Flyers wouldn't be able to use their physical advantage around the net.

So you think another team is paying 7 million or more? Or do you think he is taking less as he likes that situation better?

IMO I do not see any other team giving him 7+ million. We shall see.

Are the flyers not an up and coming team? You rave about their young core.
- hello it's me 2050

If its true they offered 7M and have no idea if it is he will take less to go elsewhere. Like I said from day 1 he isnt coming to the Flyers. There is absolutely not a thing appealing about this team or organization right now.

If its true they offered 7M and have no idea if it is he will take less to go elsewhere. Like I said from day 1 he isnt coming to the Flyers. There is absolutely not a thing appealing about this team or organization right now.
- hfc355

As did I and some others. Goes to show you money cant always get what you want. Not appealing at all.

Do you think the flyers are embarrassed at all that Trotz turned that amount down?

Just yesterday you were calling the Flyers lazy for not going after Trotz.
- MJL

No, wrong again Sherlock. I said hiring Torts would be a lazy hire, nothing to do with Trotz.

Didnt you say the flyers are the best available job out there? You also said if Chuck doesn't land him that is a big failure on his part. Do you still believe that?

Give the flyers credit lol. You are a flyers shill.

Why does it make sense, objectively speaking?
- hello it's me 2050

Yes, I think when you have two coaches like Cassidy and Trotz available, its a failure if you don't land one of them. I said in the past and still believe the Flyers job is a great job for a coach. I already answered your final question, I can see a scenario where Trotz would want to work with Yzerman and an up and coming team like Detroit, who has a lot of top 10 picks on their roster.

Hexy had some solid years…but after the Lindros trade wasn’t the same.
- landros 2

The style of goal tending really started to change in the mid 92, more larger, butterfly goalies starting to enter the game. Heck even Brodeur was considered a hybrid. Hextall's brand of goal tending couldn't survive.

Yes, I think when you have two coaches like Cassidy and Trotz available, its a failure if you don't land one of them. I said in the past and still believe the Flyers job is a great job for a coach. I already answered your final question, I can see a scenario where Trotz would want to work with Yzerman and an up and coming team like Detroit, who has a lot of top 10 picks on their roster.
- jd250

Recent history would tell you the Flyers job is clearly not a great job for a coach. Middling talent with no hope.

Recent history would tell you the Flyers job is clearly not a great job for a coach. Middling talent with no hope.
- ClaudeFather

The Flyers have a nice crop of younger players that have ceilings much higher than middling talent, and a top 5 pick in this draft. There is plenty of hope here.

Yes, I think when you have two coaches like Cassidy and Trotz available, its a failure if you don't land one of them. I said in the past and still believe the Flyers job is a great job for a coach. I already answered your final question, I can see a scenario where Trotz would want to work with Yzerman and an up and coming team like Detroit, who has a lot of top 10 picks on their roster.
- jd250

Trying to put a positive spin on Trotz telling the flyers to pound sand. Understood.

The Flyers have a nice crop of younger players that have ceilings much higher than middling talent, and a top 5 pick in this draft. There is plenty of hope here.
- jd250

As does every other NHL team ore or less.

The Flyers have a nice crop of younger players that have ceilings much higher than middling talent, and a top 5 pick in this draft. There is plenty of hope here.
- jd250

Name one? Farabee? That’s a high ceiling player?

Name one? Farabee? That’s a high ceiling player?
- ClaudeFather

Zac Mac as he is only 25 and still has potential...

Hexy was quite strange actually. We had season tickets in 1987 and saw those Finals games against the Oil. Hextall was unreal in that series. Gretzky said it was the best goaltending that he had ever seen. Hextall won the Conn Smythe in a losing effort. Unfortunately it was all downhill after that.
- Phillywhiteout

Yes, all downhill after that... Gee, I wonder how he managed to become the winningest goaltender in Flyers history going downhill all that time?

Is 7:22am too early for the goofy regulars to start their goofy arguments or is this everyday?

Is 7:22am too early for the goofy regulars to start their goofy arguments or is this everyday?
- SuperSchennBros

Someone lost some sleep

Someone lost some sleep
- ClaudeFather

At least I went to bed. Sheesh. What am I reading this morning? You don’t believe Farabee has high potential?

Just yesterday you were calling the Flyers lazy for not going after Trotz.
- MJL

mind-boggling isn't it?

At least I went to bed. Sheesh. What am I reading this morning? You don’t believe Farabee has high potential?
- SuperSchennBros

You signed on to try and take a shot at me haha I own real estate in that small brain. You’re a regular here bud, don’t try and kid yourself. My point about Farabee is that every team in the division has at least two guys better than him, this is not a team of any potential.

Name one? Farabee? That’s a high ceiling player?
- ClaudeFather

Farabee is def one.

Konecny could still get there. Next year or two will tell what we get with Konecny.

Frost has 2nd line Ceiling

Tippett 2nd line ceiling

Brink and Foerster would be other young players that have potential for a high ceiling.

They do have some, the struggle is getting them to their ceilings. There has to be something the Flyers are missing during development that is causing guys to fall short of their ceiling.

You signed on to try and take a shot at me haha I own real estate in that small brain. You’re a regular here bud, don’t try and kid yourself. My point about Farabee is that every team in the division has at least two guys better than him, this is not a team of any potential.
- ClaudeFather

Your little mind actually believes I signed on to take a shot at you? There are multiple dummies arguing about multiple dumb things this morning.

If I wanted to take a shot at you, I’d take you back to last night’s argument that you couldn’t keep up in. By the way, what is Andrei Vasilevskiy record in his last four starts against Colorado? You find the answer to that and we can talk

Your little mind actually believes I signed on to take a shot at you? There are multiple dummies arguing about multiple dumb things this morning.

If I wanted to take a shot at you, I’d take you back to last night’s argument that you couldn’t keep up in. By the way, what is Andrei Vasilevskiy record in his last four starts against Colorado? You find the answer to that and we can talk
- SuperSchennBros

Someone literally ridiculed your uninformed post in detail after I signed off haha.

Farabee is def one.

Konecny could still get there. Next year or two will tell what we get with Konecny.

Frost has 2nd line Ceiling

Tippett 2nd line ceiling

Brink and Foerster would be other young players that have potential for a high ceiling.

They do have some, the struggle is getting them to their ceilings. There has to be something the Flyers are missing during development that is causing guys to fall short of their ceiling.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Look at every team in the division , the Flyers are well behind in potential. Most of their potential has already come through.

No, wrong again Sherlock. I said hiring Torts would be a lazy hire, nothing to do with Trotz.
- jd250

Why do you continually embarrass yourself like this. In response to my asking you why it was a lazy hire, you responded with this post.

https://hockeybuzz.com/bo...p?thread_id=179307&page=7

"Torts was sitting around this past season, if the Flyers really wanted him they could have hired him the same time they fired AV. If Torts was really your top target, why wait so long and go through the charade of interviewing all these candidates? bottom line for me is Fletcher had two great coaches gift-wrapped to him and he has completely dropped the ball on both, and is left now with someone he really doesn't want but at the same time cannot afford to also lose in order to preserve the image that the Flyers always get the high profile coach."


Who are you referring to with the statement of "Fletcher had two great coaches gift-wrapped to him"?


After dealing with this, we can address that statement and how it is lacking in reality.

Is 7:22am too early for the goofy regulars to start their goofy arguments or is this everyday?
- SuperSchennBros

May I ask who these goofy regulars are as I am new to the discussion.