Excellent analysis
- Canada Cup

Just going off of your statement that he could be the "real thing" while the other goalies apparently cannot.

UFA options:

Comrie
Tokarski
Husso
Fleury
Greiss
Kuemper
Holtby
Stalock
Campbell
Subban
Domingue
Lankinen
Halak
Wedgewood
DeSmith
Jones

RFA

Oettinger
Kahkonen
Johansson
Samsonov
Georgiev
Vanecek

Trade options:

Gibson
Merzlikins
Askarov
Varlamov
Knight
Quick
Reimer

Just going off of your statement that he could be the "real thing" while the other goalies apparently cannot.
- Fakepartofme

It's so hard to predict.. Is Kuemper the "real thing" because the Avs made it to the Cup final? I mean his save % is under .900 in these playoffs.

Gibson has terrible body language when he gets scored on. Death stares at his teammates, eyerolls, etc. He's worn out his welcome in Anaheim.

Hard pass on this guy.
- fifty__missions

Yeah I've never seen this, just watched some goals he was scored on this year too.

The Oilers got to the conference final with Mike Smith. Colorado is in the Cup final and Kuemper has a save percentage under .900. No one know anything about goalies.
Just have to hope and pray you can find a goalie that can steal a game for you once in a while.. I think Gibson can still do that.. I don't think Campbell can.
- PatC80

His goals against % are pretty good.

It's so hard to predict.. Is Kuemper the "real thing" because the Avs made it to the Cup final? I mean his save % is under .900 in these playoffs.
- PatC80

well, most of the shots against him were probably 'real things'.

UFA options:

Comrie
Tokarski
Husso
Fleury
Greiss
Kuemper
Holtby
Stalock
Campbell
Subban
Domingue
Lankinen
Halak
Wedgewood
DeSmith
Jones

RFA

Oettinger
Kahkonen
Johansson
Samsonov
Georgiev
Vanecek

Trade options:

Gibson
Merzlikins
Askarov
Varlamov
Knight
- mr.sir

I think the targets should be Varlamov, Gibson or MAF.. With that said, I could see Dubas sign Comrie and trade for Mackenzie Blackwood.

Gibson led the league in saves above expected from high danger spots, a real problem for the Leafs. Obviously they’re going to look at a lot of data and won’t get him, just hoping he’ll be better. If they get him, it’ll be because they think he fits. The best we can do do is look at little snippets of information.

But I do think they’re going to try to get the best guy they can or get a couple of guys they think have the potential to do if and let them fight for the net.

As far as I can see (and I’m a bit of an expert only because I paid a lot of money for goalie lessons for my kid), there’s Gibson who could be the real thing and there’s a bunch of so-so options.
- Canada Cup

Play style his huge for goalies, has to be a fit.

Friedman said a month ago Dubas has been looking to get him in years past, if one thing is for sure he likes the way he plays for the system the Leafs have.

This could be a chance to get a top goalie in the league for cheaper than it should cost, there is a risk and I don't think anyone is doubting it.

I also think any team looking to trade him has analyzed him and have true belief he will be good, and that it it not a risk.

Mike Smith might be available
- Symba007

Buffalo has missed the playoffs 11 straight seasons, and Buffalo>Habs and will be for some time.

well, most of the shots against him were probably 'real things'.
- 21peter

I still think Kuemper is a really good goalie. I wanted the Leafs to sign him last year instead of Mrazek, but his numbers have not been very good this playoff

I think the targets should be Varlamov, Gibson or MAF.. With that said, I could see Dubas sign Comrie and trade for Mackenzie Blackwood.
- PatC80

Blockbuster with NJD💙

Gravedigger
McLeod
Blackwood
Bahl

Wood and Subban (UFA)

Play style his huge for goalies, has to be a fit.

Friedman said a month ago Dubas has been looking to get him in years past, if one thing is for sure he likes the way he plays for the system the Leafs have.

This could be a chance to get a top goalie in the league for cheaper than it should cost, there is a risk and I don't think anyone is doubting it.

I also think any team looking to trade him has analyzed him and have true belief he will be good, and that it it not a risk.
- Santo_44

I don't know how much stock to put in what the so called "experts" say.. Heck, Chris Johnson was saying that he thinks Dubas is interested in trading for Matt Murray..

Last 3 seasons

Goalie 1
70 gms
.903
-10.5 gsaa
quality starts 47%

Goalie B
140 gms
.903
-19.3 gsaa
quality starts 46%

to me these should have similar trade value.. when contracts considered
- senstroll

Price went through a 4 year stretch where he had .900, .918, .909, .901

There is more to it than these numbers

It's so hard to predict.. Is Kuemper the "real thing" because the Avs made it to the Cup final? I mean his save % is under .900 in these playoffs.
- PatC80

Dunno.
I just know that at 6.5m per, gibson has a 3 year average of .904 and gaa of 3.05. Very risky
To compare that with kuemper that you mentioned his 3 year avg is .918 gaa of 2.44

I think the targets should be Varlamov, Gibson or MAF.. With that said, I could see Dubas sign Comrie and trade for Mackenzie Blackwood.
- PatC80

I think it will be DeSmith

I don't know how much stock to put in what the so called "experts" say.. Heck, Chris Johnson was saying that he thinks Dubas is interested in trading for Matt Murray..
- PatC80

They are respected voices, I will put in a lot of stock in what they say.

Chris Johnston said that was speculation, he never once said it was information from any source.

Just going off of your statement that he could be the "real thing" while the other goalies apparently cannot.
- Fakepartofme

And I gave reasons (data) why he could be the real thing. Is there someone other Fluery who’s performed at a high level who’s available?

I’m not actually advocating for Gibson. I don’t stay up and watch the Ducks but right now he seems like the most intriguing possibility and I don’t think he’s “lost” his game. It seems like he might bring what the Leafs need - based on the limited kind of information available.

And I gave reasons (data) why he could be the real thing. Is there someone other Fluery who’s performed at a high level who’s available?

I’m not actually advocating for Gibson. I don’t stay up and watch the Ducks but right now he seems like the most intriguing possibility and I don’t think he’s “lost” his game. It seems like he might bring what the Leafs need - based on the limited kind of information available.
- Canada Cup

If it's not age related decline or injury decline than what is it?

I think a team is going to get a really good goalie for cheaper than he is worth.

I think the targets should be Varlamov, Gibson or MAF.. With that said, I could see Dubas sign Comrie and trade for Mackenzie Blackwood.
- PatC80

Someone is giving us something good for Jake Allen next year.

Might as well be the Leafs?

Dunno.
I just know that at 6.5m per, gibson has a 3 year average of .904 and gaa of 3.05. Very risky
To compare that with kuemper that you mentioned his 3 year avg is .918 gaa of 2.44
- Fakepartofme

At this point, I think Colorado will keep Kuemper..

As far as goalies though, Gibson, while risky, is the best option in my opinion.. Yeah, he's got the 6.4M cap hit, but it's locked in long term, so there's some cost certainty. Varlamov and MAF are well past their prime, but who knows.. Maybe the Leafs are on Gibson's no trade list...

Someone is giving us something good for Jake Allen next year.

Might as well be the Leafs?
- Scabeh

Call up Kenny Holland, ask for McDavid.

Call up Kenny Holland, ask for McDavid.
- PatC80

I don't think he's that desperate yet.

Allen would really help the Oilers for sure.

But we are talking about the madman who tried to win a Stanley Cup with Mike Smith.

I think the targets should be Varlamov, Gibson or MAF.. With that said, I could see Dubas sign Comrie and trade for Mackenzie Blackwood.
- PatC80

Comrie would either be a nice backup or one of a couple of guys fighting for the starting spot.

Bunting Matthews Marner
Kerfoot Tavares Nylander
? Kampf. ?
Robertson. ? Simmonds
(Clifford Steeves Anderson)

Fill those spots with:

Wood
Motte
Blackwell

Someone is giving us something good for Jake Allen next year.

Might as well be the Leafs?
- Scabeh

I hear Mrazek is available. Habs don't need anything good, they will be dumpster diving all season to try to get a shot at Connor Bedard.