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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Goalie Roulette: Is John Gibson available and worth the price?
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oldstyle
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Just outside the asylum, ON
Joined: 08.19.2013

Jun 14 @ 8:49 AM ET
I think there’s an open debate as to how much form Gibson still has; maybe more than many believe. Somebody is going to roll the dice on him and he cou’d turn out to be a real difference maker or the next Mrazek.

Either way, that kind of proposal doesn’t likely come close to working.

- Canada Cup


My first thought was no, he's in full decline. Then I recalled a couple of other goalies we signed who's numbers and careers seemed to be falling off.... Joseph and Belfour.
They worked out OK.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 14 @ 8:53 AM ET
My first thought was no, he's in full decline. Then I recalled a couple of other goalies we signed who's numbers and careers seemed to be falling off.... Joseph and Belfour.
They worked out OK.

- oldstyle



I do think there is risk in trading for Gibson, probably a big risk.. The past few seasons his numbers have not been good, but if the Leafs are going to lose Campbell and the uncertainty around Mrazek, then they need to take the risk and trade for Gibson.

Make Gibson your #1 and Kallgren as the backup.


senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
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Jun 14 @ 8:57 AM ET
Is one of the two Petr Mrazek?
- PatC80


Mrazek and Gibson
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 14 @ 9:14 AM ET
Mrazek and Gibson
- senstroll

Mike Smith might be available
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 14 @ 9:14 AM ET
Mrazek and Gibson
- senstroll



I figured as much..


I think it's a risk that the Leafs may need to take, if Campbell walks..

I don't see another goalie out there that is as good as Gibson. They can try to sign MAF to a 1 yr deal but then they'd be in the same situation again next season
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
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Jun 14 @ 9:22 AM ET
I do think there is risk in trading for Gibson, probably a big risk.. The past few seasons his numbers have not been good, but if the Leafs are going to lose Campbell and the uncertainty around Mrazek, then they need to take the risk and trade for Gibson.

Make Gibson your #1 and Kallgren as the backup.

- PatC80


While I agree, only if the price is reasonable to acquire him. No way anyone should be overpay for such a big risk.
PatC80
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Jun 14 @ 9:22 AM ET
While I agree, only if the price is reasonable to acquire him. No way anyone should be overpay for such a big risk.
- Archaic



I agree.. I would go as high as Kerfoot, Mrazek and a 2nd rd pick
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 14 @ 9:24 AM ET
DeSmith might be available
- Symba007

at what co$t

3yrs by 2.4M ish per?
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
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Jun 14 @ 9:32 AM ET
drexel will be happy

https://twitter.com/iamga...tatus/1536491291109892098
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
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Jun 14 @ 9:39 AM ET
drexel will be happy

https://twitter.com/iamga...tatus/1536491291109892098

- Symba007

sounds legit
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
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Jun 14 @ 9:44 AM ET
I figured as much..


I think it's a risk that the Leafs may need to take, if Campbell walks..

I don't see another goalie out there that is as good as Gibson. They can try to sign MAF to a 1 yr deal but then they'd be in the same situation again next season

- PatC80


this makes more sense to me, gives you another year to see what else pops up

if you go for Gibson and he is not much better, well you are screwed
senstroll
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Jun 14 @ 9:47 AM ET
drexel will be happy

https://twitter.com/iamga...tatus/1536491291109892098

- Symba007





I was lucky enough to get in on the crypto when my new financial adviser pierre polydent said it was a good hedge against inflation.
Symba007
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Jun 14 @ 9:48 AM ET


I was lucky enough to get in on the crypto when my new financial adviser pierre polydent said it was a good hedge against inflation.

- senstroll

He's a (frank)ing moron
Canada Cup
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Jun 14 @ 9:57 AM ET
this makes more sense to me, gives you another year to see what else pops up

if you go for Gibson and he is not much better, well you are screwed

- senstroll


Gibson led the league in saves above expected from high danger spots, a real problem for the Leafs. Obviously they’re going to look at a lot of data and won’t get him, just hoping he’ll be better. If they get him, it’ll be because they think he fits. The best we can do do is look at little snippets of information.

But I do think they’re going to try to get the best guy they can or get a couple of guys they think have the potential to do if and let them fight for the net.

As far as I can see (and I’m a bit of an expert only because I paid a lot of money for goalie lessons for my kid), there’s Gibson who could be the real thing and there’s a bunch of so-so options.
Canada Cup
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Jun 14 @ 10:00 AM ET


I was lucky enough to get in on the crypto when my new financial adviser pierre polydent said it was a good hedge against inflation.

- senstroll


Pierre has his crack team of financial advisers working up options for Canadian currency for when he becomes supreme leader. Dried beaver dung is said to be the current favourite.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
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Jun 14 @ 10:01 AM ET
Pierre has his crack team of financial advisers working up options for Canadian currency for when he becomes supreme leader. Dried beaver dung is said to be the current favourite.
- Canada Cup

the main issue with the beaver dung is that their KKK AB base keep eating them, there are no reserve.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 14 @ 10:09 AM ET
Gibson led the league in saves above expected from high danger spots, a real problem for the Leafs. Obviously they’re going to look at a lot of data and won’t get him, just hoping he’ll be better. If they get him, it’ll be because they think he fits. The best we can do do is look at little snippets of information.

But I do think they’re going to try to get the best guy they can or get a couple of guys they think have the potential to do if and let them fight for the net.

As far as I can see (and I’m a bit of an expert only because I paid a lot of money for goalie lessons for my kid), there’s Gibson who could be the real thing and there’s a bunch of so-so options.

- Canada Cup



I agree, outside of Gibson I think the best option might be MAF or Ville Husso.. I could see Fleury getting a good contract from a team, maybe even the Oilers... Husso, I think he'll re-sign in STL or, get a Mrazek type deal from another team
Fakepartofme
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Jun 14 @ 10:10 AM ET
I figured as much..


I think it's a risk that the Leafs may need to take, if Campbell walks..

I don't see another goalie out there that is as good as Gibson. They can try to sign MAF to a 1 yr deal but then they'd be in the same situation again next season

- PatC80

Id prefer MAF on a 1 year deal.
No sense giving up assets for a goalie who has performed just as well (or bad) as a goalie we already have.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 14 @ 10:10 AM ET
Gibson + Rakell
for
Biggs
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 14 @ 10:15 AM ET
Id prefer MAF on a 1 year deal.
No sense giving up assets for a goalie who has performed just as well (or bad) as a goalie we already have.

- Fakepartofme


I agree here, but since I dont know much of anything about goalies, if the Leafs think Gibson can regain his 2018 form...then great...better work

but to this point in the Dubas era, I am not super confident in the goalie expertise of the team so far. a lot more misses than hits
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 14 @ 10:18 AM ET
Gibson led the league in saves above expected from high danger spots, a real problem for the Leafs. Obviously they’re going to look at a lot of data and won’t get him, just hoping he’ll be better. If they get him, it’ll be because they think he fits. The best we can do do is look at little snippets of information.

But I do think they’re going to try to get the best guy they can or get a couple of guys they think have the potential to do if and let them fight for the net.

As far as I can see (and I’m a bit of an expert only because I paid a lot of money for goalie lessons for my kid), there’s Gibson who could be the real thing and there’s a bunch of so-so options.

- Canada Cup

Gibson hasnt really been the "real thing" for a couple of years.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
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Jun 14 @ 10:22 AM ET
Id prefer MAF on a 1 year deal.
No sense giving up assets for a goalie who has performed just as well (or bad) as a goalie we already have.

- Fakepartofme

Unless he performed better. Or maybe he was much worse. It depends on which criteria you use. Actually it doesn’t depend on that at all. It depends on which ones the Leafs think matter
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 14 @ 10:23 AM ET
Gibson hasnt really been the "real thing" for a couple of years.
- Fakepartofme

Excellent analysis
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
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Jun 14 @ 10:24 AM ET
Excellent analysis
- Canada Cup

very hard to attack that one!
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 14 @ 10:27 AM ET
I agree here, but since I dont know much of anything about goalies, if the Leafs think Gibson can regain his 2018 form...then great...better work

but to this point in the Dubas era, I am not super confident in the goalie expertise of the team so far. a lot more misses than hits

- senstroll



The Oilers got to the conference final with Mike Smith. Colorado is in the Cup final and Kuemper has a save percentage under .900. No one know anything about goalies.
Just have to hope and pray you can find a goalie that can steal a game for you once in a while.. I think Gibson can still do that.. I don't think Campbell can.
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