2023 1st
2023 2nd
Scott Morrow (40th overall 2021, 33 points in 37 games as a freshman D at Amherst)
Ryan Suzuki
- BINGO!

What’s the deal with Suzuki’s eye? Will the injury impact the kid long-term?

What about a team like Detroit trying to jump up?
- rpeters01

They could put together a package, but I don’t know if they’d be willing to part with the assets.

The Red Wings’ 1st round picks aren’t as good, #8 OA in 22 and likely worse in 23 so they’d have to offer up better prospects like Cossa and Edvinsson and I doubt Stevie Y does that.

What’s the deal with Suzuki’s eye? Will the injury impact the kid long-term?
- DarthKane

No idea. He seems to be okay. Think the kid just needs a fresh start somewhere because he just keeps having fluke injury after fluke injury every 10 or 15 games.

Hey Bingo, are the Canes going to go into next year with the 2 goalies made of glass?
- LAHawk

I don't think they have much choice but to run the same guys next year. Hopefully Raanta gets more starts during the season so Freddie doesn't get worn down before the playoffs start again.

Of all the teams that can put together a trade package for DeBrincat I think NJ has the best assets to offer up and can afford to part with them.

Buffalo and Arizona can put together a decent package too.

The Rangers haven’t been rumoured to be in on ADB, but they could put together a strong offering.
- DarthKane

The Rangers have enough discussions on their own contracts and keeps and departs.

They become the next Cap casualty that is up against the Cup window, as the Jets were with a stable of talent that they cut loose when the players wanted their next salary bumps. At least the Blues won one...Carolina needs a few pieces and they on the clock now too.


But the Rangers are a terrific study on how all the pieces have to come together.
As Tampa, they didn't elevate a goaltender from their minor pro system; they drafted one and he came over and seized the position. (Is that good scouting, or luck?)

The paid the dollars the Jets didn't seeing the overall value of Trouba. (it was. head scratcher that the Jets left him walk, but the NHL fans all seemed to think Buff was a Norris type backliner.

They announce full rebuild AFTER they already started drafting kids, getting extra picks, etc. and they stuck.
They decided that their main old guys Mika and Chris were worth not dumping for picks.
They made a huge investment in the 11,642,857 for Artemi Panarin until he is 34.
I am gonna guess that he will still be an excellent passing generator by the end of that and also still be skirting contact board commitment when there is nasty traffic too.


They got lucky.
In 2019 draft they should have selected 6th, won the lottery and chose 2nd (Kaako)
In 202 draft they should have drafted 16th, (one the 1st overall (a 1% chance of winning the first overall) and got Alexis Lafreniere.
The defensemen they drafts mid first round came in and played quickly.

Thw forward Filip Chytil, a late 2017 first round selection, starts to develop.

On February 25, 2018 Rick Nash was traded to the Boston Bruins. In exchange, the Rangers received Ryan Lindgren, Ryan Spooner (Ryan Strome), Matt Beleskey, a 1st rd pick in 2018, and a 7th rd pick in 2019 from Boston.


The Pittsburgh Penguins' first-round pick went to the New York Rangers as the result of a trade on June 22, 2018 that sent Boston's first-round pick and New Jersey's second-round pick (26th and 48th overall) both in 2018 to Ottawa in exchange for this pick.[13]
Ottawa previously acquired this pick as the result of a trade on February 23, 2018 that sent Derick Brassard and a third-round pick in 2018 to Pittsburgh in exchange for Ian Cole, Filip Gustavsson and this pick
[/I]][NOTE that 2018 first rounder was used to acquire K'Andre Miller.

They trade for Ryan Strome from Edmonton for Ryan Franking Spooner.

They pay TB's Barclay Woodrow b/c Tampa cannot afford him...

They add Ryan Reeves to contend with Wilson / Maroon type aggressors who are afraid to really fight him.
.
They aggressively go after extra vets to fill one up depth with vets: Frankie Vatrano, Copp, Motte, and Justin Braun in the backline.


I only do exercises like this so I can process the way a team does re-tool and have success.

A lot revolves around picks, especially first rounders.
AND they franking LOST!!!!!!!!

Not late second rounders or thirds.

The Rangers have enough discussions on their own contracts and keeps and departs.

They become the next Cap casualty that is up against the Cup window, as the Jets were with a stable of talent that they cut loose when the players wanted their next salary bumps. At least the Blues won one...Carolina needs a few pieces and they on the clock now too.


But the Rangers are a terrific study on how all the pieces have to come together.
As Tampa, they didn't elevate a goaltender from their minor pro system; they drafted one and he came over and seized the position. (Is that good scouting, or luck?)

The paid the dollars the Jets didn't seeing the overall value of Trouba. (it was. head scratcher that the Jets left him walk, but the NHL fans all seemed to think Buff was a Norris type backliner.

They announce full rebuild AFTER they already started drafting kids, getting extra picks, etc. and they stuck.
They decided that their main old guys Mika and Chris were worth not dumping for picks.
They made a huge investment in the 11,642,857 for Artemi Panarin until he is 34.
I am gonna guess that he will still be an excellent passing generator by the end of that and also still be skirting contact board commitment when there is nasty traffic too.


They got lucky.
In 2019 draft they should have selected 6th, won the lottery and chose 2nd (Kaako)
In 202 draft they should have drafted 16th, (one the 1st overall (a 1% chance of winning the first overall) and got Alexis Lafreniere.
The defensemen they drafts mid first round came in and played quickly.

Thw forward Filip Chytil, a late 2017 first round selection, starts to develop.

On February 25, 2018 Rick Nash was traded to the Boston Bruins. In exchange, the Rangers received Ryan Lindgren, Ryan Spooner (Ryan Strome), Matt Beleskey, a 1st rd pick in 2018, and a 7th rd pick in 2019 from Boston.


The Pittsburgh Penguins' first-round pick went to the New York Rangers as the result of a trade on June 22, 2018 that sent Boston's first-round pick and New Jersey's second-round pick (26th and 48th overall) both in 2018 to Ottawa in exchange for this pick.
- wiz1901[13]
Ottawa previously acquired this pick as the result of a trade on February 23, 2018 that sent Derick Brassard and a third-round pick in 2018 to Pittsburgh in exchange for Ian Cole, Filip Gustavsson and this pick
[/I]][NOTE that 2018 first rounder was used to acquire K'Andre Miller.

They trade for Ryan Strome from Edmonton for Ryan Franking Spooner.

They pay TB's Barclay Woodrow b/c Tampa cannot afford him...

They add Ryan Reeves to contend with Wilson / Maroon type aggressors who are afraid to really fight him.
.
They aggressively go after extra vets to fill one up depth with vets: Frankie Vatrano, Copp, Motte, and Justin Braun in the backline.


I only do exercises like this so I can process the way a team does re-tool and have success.

A lot revolves around picks, especially first rounders.
AND they franking LOST!!!!!!!!

Not late second rounders or thirds.

That's all going to catch up to the rangers now too though as they may be a one-and-done situation.

They were a pretty awful team most of the year that were carried by The Great Equalizer in net, and a completely absurd 52(?!) goals from Kreider.

Now they've got 13 million in Cap space with only 9 NHL forwards, 4 NHL defenseman (Unless you count Nemeth as an NHL player) and 1 goalie.

Kakko, Geogiev and the injured Sammy Blais are all RFA's.

That's all going to catch up to the rangers now too though as they may be a one-and-done situation.

They were a pretty awful team most of the year that were carried by The Great Equalizer in net, and a completely absurd 52(?!) goals from Kreider.

Now they've got 13 million in Cap space with only 9 NHL forwards, 4 NHL defenseman (Unless you count Nemeth as an NHL player) and 1 goalie.

Kakko, Geogiev and the injured Sammy Blais are all RFA's.
- BINGO!

And they barely got past the Pens playing without their top 2 goalies and Crosby. And your Canes without Andersen.

No on Jarvis. He and Kochetkov are probably the only "prospects" I'd say no on.

Drury, Suzuki, Rees, Bokk, Morrow, whoever. Take your pick. I don't LIKE losing a couple of those guys, but 40 goals is 40 goals and the Canes window is NOW.
- BINGO!

If not traded and extended by next summer,, would the Canes offer sheet Debrincat for 10M?Cost would be 2 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd.

If not traded and extended by next summer,, would the Canes offer sheet Debrincat for 10M?Cost would be 2 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd.
- boilermaker100

Nah. They can't absorb that kind of cap hit without moving salary out.

I think Kakko might be an offer sheet target though if he's not extended before Free Agency hits. Same with Puljujarvi. But I think they'll look at a trade for a big scorer before they do that.

Some GM’s have to prove how smart they are by making high risk, thinking out side the box, moves. Drafting players well before most others have them ranked. Overpaying for free agents or overpaying with picks and prospects in trades.
I would rather have a GM who goes by the chalk. In fact be conservative and draft prospects that slip in the draft. Find players that you can pick up on the cheap. Don’t rush players. Save cap space. Then when you are getting close make the big free agent signing that only costs you cash and not players, prospects, or picks (ala Hossa).
- Ztra

Proper philosophy. I lean toward saying KD agrees and will pretty much follow the way you propose.

what do you want for Debrincat?

We'll start with Martin Necas and a 1st and build from there
- BINGO!

2023 1st unprotected dury and 2nd 2023 don't know much about carolina' s prospects.
Imo new jersey la kings and Philly have best chances of landing dcat due the fact of the assets they can trade.

I live to think the Blackhawks were a team that would be in on

a Anderson, or Pulivarri, but we don't need to pay out the posterior with youth to get youth and D'Cat isn't going to Montreal or Edmonton, right?

again, everyone, take breath read the top 38 players profiles, click and scroll down to the scouyting reports,

( https://www.lines.com/nhl/drafts. ),

and tell me who we want to drop in to Chicago in slot #38, the only certainty we can comment on....

That's all going to catch up to the rangers now too though as they may be a one-and-done situation.

They were a pretty awful team most of the year that were carried by The Great Equalizer in net, and a completely absurd 52(?!) goals from Kreider.

Now they've got 13 million in Cap space with only 9 NHL forwards, 4 NHL defenseman (Unless you count Nemeth as an NHL player) and 1 goalie.

Kakko, Geogiev and the injured Sammy Blais are all RFA's.
- BINGO!

Are the Rangers today much different than the King Henry Rangers in that very good goaltending makes them look a lot better than they actually are?

Are the Rangers today much different than the King Henry Rangers in that very good goaltending makes them look a lot better than they actually are?
- Ztra

Not much. Gallant did a good job of getting them to play a VERY defensive system in the last 3rd of the year, but overall they're really expensive and probably not as good as their record indicates.

Not much. Gallant did a good job of getting them to play a VERY defensive system in the last 3rd of the year, but overall they're really expensive and probably not as good as their record indicates.
- BINGO!

I just don't see Carolina willing to give up what it would take to get
Cat. Then they would have to pay him to keep him.

I just don't see Carolina willing to give up what it would take to get
Cat. Then they would have to pay him to keep him.
- BetweenTheDots

It definitely hasn't been their MO

I just don't see Carolina willing to give up what it would take to get
Cat. Then they would have to pay him to keep him.
- BetweenTheDots

Agreed. The Canes may target Strome or Kubalik as a more affordable option.

Montreal has some draft capital too with four 1st rounders and three 2nd rounders in the next 2 years. Plus, they may need some salary cap help (i.e Drouin). I still like the assets the Devils have best, but Montreal could be an option too.

I live to think the Blackhawks were a team that would be in on

a Anderson, or Pulivarri, but we don't need to pay out the posterior with youth to get youth and D'Cat isn't going to Montreal or Edmonton, right?

again, everyone, take breath read the top 38 players profiles, click and scroll down to the scouyting reports,

( https://www.lines.com/nhl/drafts. ),

and tell me who we want to drop in to Chicago in slot #38, the only certainty we can comment on....
- wiz1901

Jimmy Snuggerud

Agreed. The Canes may target Strome or Kubalik as a more affordable option.

Montreal has some draft capital too with four 1st rounders and three 2nd rounders in the next 2 years. Plus, they may need some salary cap help (i.e Drouin). I still like the assets the Devils have best, but Montreal could be an option too.
- DarthKane

I agree with Darth and I think the one of the biggest hurdles in getting New Jersey to engage is IF they believe they can land Johnny Hockey. He to me is the biggest obstacle KD may have....Both he and DeBrincat next contracts will likely cost the same so its the premium you pay to get DeBrincat, get 1 year at 6.4 and then extend him.

Powers had a nice article today in the athletic outlining it all.

Buff, I think our team is looking for picks, but specifically, they seem to be very interested in getting back in the first round.
- wiz1901

How's his head, I like Murphy and am willing to deal. How's his medical's

I agree with Darth and I think the one of the biggest hurdles in getting New Jersey to engage is IF they believe they can land Johnny Hockey. He to me is the biggest obstacle KD may have....Both he and DeBrincat next contracts will likely cost the same so its the premium you pay to get DeBrincat, get 1 year at 6.4 and then extend him.

Powers had a nice article today in the athletic outlining it all.
- SteveRain

Like Jones last year, ADB's not going anywhere without agreeing to a new deal first.

How's his head, I like Murphy and am willing to deal. How's his medical's
- Buff36

https://www.bleachernatio...egardless-of-the-rebuild/

Seravalli said on his podccast that the rebuild will take 5,6,7 years and anyone on this team, with exception of Kane, Jones (because of his contract) and possibly Dach won't be around when the team is good again. He didn't cite any sources and I'm sure it's just his opinion.

That's why he thinks Debrincat will be traded. He's 24 and will be 30 by the time the team is good again, and in the meantime he'll be paid huge bucks for playing on a bad team.
- boilermaker100

If the rebuild takes that much longer, considering the Hawks have been rebuilding already for a while, it will be a real long stretch for the fans. I think they only trade Debrincat if the return is really high or if he really holds out for too much $$$.

Would be interesting, considering the Hawks seem to trade all of their first picks from previous drafts.

2012 1st round - Teuvo Teravainen
2013 1st round - Ryan Hartman
2014 1st round - Nick Schmaltz
2015 Hawks only drafted busts
2016 2nd round - Alex DeBrincat (Hawks didn't have a first round pick)
2017 1st round - Henri Jokiharju
2018 1st round - Adam Boqvist
2019 1st round - Kirby Dach
2020 1st round - Lukas Reichel
2021 1st round - Nolan Allan

https://www.bleachernation.com/blackhawks/2022/04/27/connor-murphy-is-feeling-great-happy-to-be-with-the-blackhawks-regardless-of-the-rebuild/
- LAHawk

Thanks

How's his head, I like Murphy and am willing to deal. How's his medical's
- Buff36

How about Murphy and 3rd for the 28 th pick?