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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 21 @ 1:01 PM ET
Varlamov has a NMC no? That makes it exponentially harder to move him. If it were so easy to move Bailey he would’ve been gone already don’t fool yourself with that one. There’s a reason he was exposed and it wasn’t because lameriello thinks he’s a super cerebral hockey player.
- Cptmjl

Varly has a modified NTC now. He submits a 16-team no-trade list.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 21 @ 1:08 PM ET
I don't believe Bratt is really available.. (any more than Beau is available). A lot of these SITEs constantly type nonsense click bait out there and then everyone else runs with it as... "Rumored to be available" ...

I got a million texts on Trotz to Flyers, Nashville, Boston, etc. B/c someone put it in their blog... Trotz wants to spend time with his sick wife, and some other family issues. He didn't want an extension b/c after his mom passed and all of the stuff going on he thought he needed to take a break. Lou "Fired" him to give him that break and b/c he couldn't commit long term.

I could see him getting a position closer to home in MGMT where he doesn't have to travel.. but until it's proven otherwise by a contract.. I can't imagine he is going to coach this year.

- niteislander


He gets paid if fired as well. If Barry quits then no 4 million this year.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jun 21 @ 1:09 PM ET
Having "more cap space" than most of the league is irrelevant without considering how many holes need to be filled on a given roster.

They have to fill three open spots on the blueline, including Dobson. One of the non-Dobson players needs to be actually talented. Maybe the other is Salo and he will re-sign cheap. But that's risky for a guy who didn't impress management/coaches last year.

Trading Varlamov would be exceptionally bad, especially when you realize that we'd have to sign a backup who'd be a significant downgrade for probably $2.5M-$3M or just fill a garbage can with manure to backup Sorokin and pray he never gets hurt.

Moving Bailey alone won't create enough space to sign an offensive defenseman AND a top-tier UFA. It probably won't even create enough space to be able to afford an offensive defenseman and Kevin Fiala. Moving out Beauvillier probably gets them there but then you're creating another hole up front that has to be filled and please don't sit here and tell me Kieffer Bellows (who also needs a contract) is an adequate player to do that.

- eichiefs9


Well he’s almost certainly gonna get his opportunity to try. Not many other in house options.

Though I’m hopeful Räty makes his case.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jun 21 @ 1:13 PM ET
I'll have to blame Lee if we lose out on Forsberg.



- ses111



Blame… Bailey?

Yeah. Yeah that sounds right.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 21 @ 1:22 PM ET
Well he’s almost certainly gonna get his opportunity to try. Not many other in house options.

Though I’m hopeful Räty makes his case.

- Wildschwein


Islanders are going to have to rely on more in house options unless they open up more Cap space and they become a prime FA destination.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 21 @ 1:25 PM ET
Islanders are going to have to rely on more in house options unless they open up more Cap space and they become a prime FA destination.
- ses111

Exactly. They have to hope one of Wahlstrom and or bellows play prominent roles next season. Ideally both of them. Not sure if it’ll work out but if it does it makes Bailey and Beau exponentially more expendable.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 21 @ 1:44 PM ET
Exactly. They have to hope one of Wahlstrom and or bellows play prominent roles next season. Ideally both of them. Not sure if it’ll work out but if it does it makes Bailey and Beau exponentially more expendable.
- Cptmjl


They are going to have to reach some of these young forwards and get through to them whether they like it or not. This team has done pretty well with young dmen and they finally hit on a young goalie in Sorokin but the young forwards have been an issue for the longest time.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jun 21 @ 2:52 PM ET
They are going to have to reach some of these young forwards and get through to them whether they like it or not. This team has done pretty well with young dmen and they finally hit on a young goalie in Sorokin but the young forwards have been an issue for the longest time.
- ses111


Soon…

niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 21 @ 2:58 PM ET
Having "more cap space" than most of the league is irrelevant without considering how many holes need to be filled on a given roster.

They have to fill three open spots on the blueline, including Dobson. One of the non-Dobson players needs to be actually talented. Maybe the other is Salo and he will re-sign cheap. But that's risky for a guy who didn't impress management/coaches last year.

Trading Varlamov would be exceptionally bad, especially when you realize that we'd have to sign a backup who'd be a significant downgrade for probably $2.5M-$3M or just fill a garbage can with manure to backup Sorokin and pray he never gets hurt.

Moving Bailey alone won't create enough space to sign an offensive defenseman AND a top-tier UFA. It probably won't even create enough space to be able to afford an offensive defenseman and Kevin Fiala. Moving out Beauvillier probably gets them there but then you're creating another hole up front that has to be filled and please don't sit here and tell me Kieffer Bellows (who also needs a contract) is an adequate player to do that.

- eichiefs9


I honestly think you have all the contracts on the wall and constantly worry about the cap. When you have $12 mill of cap.. and u need to sign Dobson..

What u think Dobson gets on his bridge deal? $3 or 4 mill ish.. that leaves at least $8 mill + That is certainly enough for one of the top UFA's.. Varly $5 mill and Bailey $5 mill is another $10.. that is enough for the 2 guys.. if you need it. ..

Beau ain't going anywhere despite you guys hating a 24 year old who scores 20 a year and will continue to get better.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 21 @ 3:00 PM ET
He gets paid if fired as well. If Barry quits then no 4 million this year.
- nyisles7


Once he couldn't commit long term.. Lou was moving on.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 21 @ 3:20 PM ET
I honestly think you have all the contracts on the wall and constantly worry about the cap. When you have $12 mill of cap.. and u need to sign Dobson..

What u think Dobson gets on his bridge deal? $3 or 4 mill ish.. that leaves at least $8 mill + That is certainly enough for one of the top UFA's.. Varly $5 mill and Bailey $5 mill is another $10.. that is enough for the 2 guys.. if you need it. ..

Beau ain't going anywhere despite you guys hating a 24 year old who scores 20 a year and will continue to get better.

- niteislander

Dobson probably gets at least $4M. He was tied for 15th overall in points by a defenseman this year.

Who are you signing to replace Varlamov? Here's your list.

We can't afford Fleury, Kuemper, or Campbell. Everyone else is crap. Moving Varlamov would be a colossal mistake.

ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 21 @ 3:21 PM ET
Soon…


- Wildschwein


Hopefully Raty is the real deal. We have to see how the coaching staff handles young forwards now. The player is just one part of the equation.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 21 @ 3:27 PM ET
Once he couldn't commit long term.. Lou was moving on.
- niteislander



100%, I think it was a mutual decision.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 21 @ 3:34 PM ET
I honestly think you have all the contracts on the wall and constantly worry about the cap. When you have $12 mill of cap.. and u need to sign Dobson..

What u think Dobson gets on his bridge deal? $3 or 4 mill ish.. that leaves at least $8 mill + That is certainly enough for one of the top UFA's.. Varly $5 mill and Bailey $5 mill is another $10.. that is enough for the 2 guys.. if you need it. ..

Beau ain't going anywhere despite you guys hating a 24 year old who scores 20 a year and will continue to get better.

- niteislander


Don’t think Lou is moving Varly.
As far as trades, Beau could certainly be traded if the return is what we need. Now that said I’m not trading Beau to make a trade or to get rid of him because he sucks, like some.
Their aren’t many Isles Players that are on the no trade list imo.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jun 21 @ 5:27 PM ET
Dobson probably gets at least $4M. He was tied for 15th overall in points by a defenseman this year.

Who are you signing to replace Varlamov? Here's your list.

We can't afford Fleury, Kuemper, or Campbell. Everyone else is crap. Moving Varlamov would be a colossal mistake.

- eichiefs9


Holtby, Greiss and Wedgewood interest me.

Apparently, Jersey is looking for a goalie. If Varlamov would consent to go, would one be able to get Graves in return?

Beauvillier-Barzal-Wahlstrom
Lee-Nelson-Palmieri
Parise-Pageau-Bailey
Martin-Cizikas-Clutterbuck

Pelech-Pulock
Graves-Dobson
Salo-Mayfield

Sorokin
Holtby (2.5 per ?)
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 21 @ 5:58 PM ET
Holtby, Greiss and Wedgewood interest me.

Apparently, Jersey is looking for a goalie. If Varlamov would consent to go, would one be able to get Graves in return?

Beauvillier-Barzal-Wahlstrom
Lee-Nelson-Palmieri
Parise-Pageau-Bailey
Martin-Cizikas-Clutterbuck

Pelech-Pulock
Graves-Dobson
Salo-Mayfield

Sorokin
Holtby (2.5 per ?)

- Wildschwein

You have Beauvillier there. I like some other imaginary, made up, people on here want to trade him because he sucks not for salary cap reasons or to try and improve the position. So get with the program.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jun 21 @ 6:14 PM ET
You have Beauvillier there. I like some other imaginary, made up, people on here want to trade him because he sucks not for salary cap reasons or to try and improve the position. So get with the program.
- Cptmjl


Barzal told me to tell you… no.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 21 @ 7:20 PM ET
Barzal told me to tell you… no.
- Wildschwein

Barzal talks out of both sides of his mouth.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jun 21 @ 7:34 PM ET
Barzal talks out of both sides of his mouth.
- Cptmjl


And just like that, Cpt is perma-banned from UBS Arena.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jun 22 @ 7:51 AM ET
And just like that, Cpt is perma-banned from UBS Arena.
- Wildschwein

Is he also banned from the Woolworth's?
Tee56
Joined: 10.02.2017

Jun 22 @ 7:57 AM ET
Is he also banned from the Woolworth's?
- JohnScammo


WOW, I haven’t heard the store name Woolworth’s in many years. You could buy a Canary and eat lunch at the counter all in one store.


John Tonelli for HOF
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 22 @ 8:04 AM ET
They’re going to have to come up with something else everyone is laughing off the monkeypox thing
- Cptmjl


BIDEN: "We need more money to plan for the second pandemic. There's going to be another pandemic."

it's in their playbook.. so it's coming.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 22 @ 8:07 AM ET
Is he also banned from the Woolworth's?
- JohnScammo

No just Crazy Eddie’s.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 22 @ 8:10 AM ET
Dobson probably gets at least $4M. He was tied for 15th overall in points by a defenseman this year.

Who are you signing to replace Varlamov? Here's your list.

We can't afford Fleury, Kuemper, or Campbell. Everyone else is crap. Moving Varlamov would be a colossal mistake.

- eichiefs9


As A back up I would be fine with most of the guys on that list. Sorokin will be our starter and signing a guy like Halak, Greiss, Kinkaid or a younger guy they think has upside would be fine. Especially with our goalie coaches. Varly is great but he makes $5mill and was hurt for most of last year. If you can get a servicable back up for $3mil less u do it.... IF YOU NEED THE CAP SPACE.

You don't trade a 24 year old top 6 forward.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jun 22 @ 8:22 AM ET
Is he also banned from the Woolworth's?
- JohnScammo


I’m not entirely sure what that is.

That said, we’ll operate under the assumption that it’s a sheep and alpaca themed brothel. In which case… no.
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