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glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jun 8 @ 3:02 PM ET
I was just thinking that as soon as they choose to rebuild (whenever that is) the Jacobs family might move on. All they really care about is the profits and couldnt care less about the fanbase. Would love to see them sell the team to a new owner that gives a poop and doesn't use it as a good ol' boys club.

I understand its a business, but caring about the fanbase only helps your margins in the end.

- dothedougie


The Jacobs will never sell. They own the building, the concessions, make the Celtics pay absurd amounts of money to use the building, and got the Bruins as a free burden to manage. But, I think if we tune out enough to affect their profits, while the Boston media does their job and kills the (frank) out of Dumb and Dumber, JJ will call for their heads. They only care about money. It's the only way to get rid of these guys. Shut them out.
77emac77
Boston Bruins
Location: Duct tape cant fix stupid but it can muffle the sound, MA
Joined: 04.22.2010

Jun 8 @ 3:09 PM ET
Don’t know that he won’t resign seems a little bit of a stretch that he won’t because of Sweeney being here. But the info on Krug wanting to become a FA and the Bruins offering a similar contract is complete crap. Krug wanted to stay said he would be open to taking less to stay here.
Sweeney never offered sh-t. He thought Grzelyck was going to replace Krug. Not even close.

- johnnypie[B]He handled Chara wrong too. [B]
His supposed upgrades for better scoring on the 4th line is a fail too. That guy from Vegas with a big 2 goals, Foligno lit it up too. Acciarri, ,kuraly, Vetrano , Ritchie all scored more and any 2 together would be cheaper. More physical too. He has to sign Pasta . Wouldn’t want to think about what kind of return Sweeney would get in a trade. It is going to be an interesting off season.


Chara was old, slow, and needed to be put out to pasture. The only thing wrong with getting rid of Chara is not replacing him
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
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Joined: 10.24.2013

Jun 8 @ 3:11 PM ET
When it came down to it. Forbort was pretty solid on the third pair in the playoffs.
- Mahewman


When it comes down to it, Gryz, Reilly and Forbort are three names that are expendable to me. Of the three, I would probably want to keep Forbort the most, however I would not be sad if he were traded either.

Now finding suitors for them, thats another story.
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
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Joined: 10.24.2013

Jun 8 @ 3:13 PM ET
Chara was old, slow, and needed to be put out to pasture. The only thing wrong with getting rid of Chara is not replacing him
- 77emac77



Im gonna be perfectly honest with you, I would have rather played the pale shade of Chara than sign Mike Reilly. Probably would have been cheaper too.
bluemoon737
Boston Bruins
Location: Portsmouth, NH
Joined: 04.19.2019

Jun 8 @ 3:28 PM ET
When it comes down to it, Gryz, Reilly and Forbort are three names that are expendable to me. Of the three, I would probably want to keep Forbort the most, however I would not be sad if he were traded either.

Now finding suitors for them, thats another story.

- dothedougie

I'm fine with keeping Forbort. He's a big body (although, like Carlo, doesn't play as big as he is) and is a shot blocking machine who seems to stay healthy. He's not expensive so is a perfect 3rd pairing PK guy.

Problem is you can't trade Reilly or Gryz...they are both injured so they do nothing to help you this off-season.
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
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Joined: 10.24.2013

Jun 8 @ 3:41 PM ET
I'm fine with keeping Forbort. He's a big body (although, like Carlo, doesn't play as big as he is) and is a shot blocking machine who seems to stay healthy. He's not expensive so is a perfect 3rd pairing PK guy.

Problem is you can't trade Reilly or Gryz...they are both injured so they do nothing to help you this off-season.

- bluemoon737



True story. Hard to trade them even when they are healthy. Its gonna be a long off season.
Tachmo
Boston Bruins
Location: Canada, SK
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 8 @ 3:43 PM ET
Im gonna be perfectly honest with you, I would have rather played the pale shade of Chara than sign Mike Reilly. Probably would have been cheaper too.
- dothedougie


i’d still rather have Chara then Gryz, Reilly and Forbort.
Mahewman
Season Ticket Holder
Boston Bruins
Location: NH
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 8 @ 4:18 PM ET
i’d still rather have Chara then Gryz, Reilly and Forbort.
- Tachmo



Gryz is a far better defenseman than you guys give him credit for. Most NHL teams would be interested in he was available. I will admit that he has had two pretty poopty post seasons in a row but he was also hurt in both of them. I am not sure if the drop in play is the ability to handle the pressure or if it's dealing with injuries.




Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 8 @ 5:29 PM ET
I think coyle is just a 8 team no trade list at this point. So he is moveable.
- Mahewman


If you think a $5M Cap-hit for a player of his caliber is moveable...
bluemoon737
Boston Bruins
Location: Portsmouth, NH
Joined: 04.19.2019

Jun 8 @ 5:40 PM ET
Gryz is a far better defenseman than you guys give him credit for. Most NHL teams would be interested in he was available. I will admit that he has had two pretty poopty post seasons in a row but he was also hurt in both of them. I am not sure if the drop in play is the ability to handle the pressure or if it's dealing with injuries.
- Mahewman

I agree, he just isn't durable and is too small for a significant role in post season play.
johnnypie
Joined: 12.22.2015

Jun 8 @ 7:03 PM ET
Chara was old, slow, and needed to be put out to pasture. The only thing wrong with getting rid of Chara is not replacing him
- 77emac77


First thing concerning Grz . He is a good skating dman but is limited. Can’t play against the big physical forwards. Can’t kill penalties has no presence. Is he top 4 ?

Now the point with Chara is you didn’t improve by getting rid of him. His replacements cost more and chara was better. Played more, better plus minus, and no comparison with the physical play along with the leadership. Still a major force who opponents fear. Last 2 years under 2 million cap hit for Chara. Forbert, Reilly one year 3 mill. And that great youth movement ,stop it. Zboril is mediocre and the other # 1 was traded. Sweeney isn’t the worst GM but his moves did nothing to improve this team. Guess if you ok with just being a good team give him his extension. I want more .
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 8 @ 9:24 PM ET
First thing concerning Grz . He is a good skating dman but is limited. Can’t play against the big physical forwards. Can’t kill penalties has no presence. Is he top 4 ?

Now the point with Chara is you didn’t improve by getting rid of him. His replacements cost more and chara was better. Played more, better plus minus, and no comparison with the physical play along with the leadership. Still a major force who opponents fear. Last 2 years under 2 million cap hit for Chara. Forbert, Reilly one year 3 mill. And that great youth movement ,stop it. Zboril is mediocre and the other # 1 was traded. Sweeney isn’t the worst GM but his moves did nothing to improve this team. Guess if you ok with just being a good team give him his extension. I want more .

- johnnypie


Bruins did not "git rid" of Chara. He wanted more playing time than they were willing to give him.

Chara was a major force with Was & NYI? His 24pts and +14 over those two seasons suggest otherwise. He played a total of 5 post-season games over the two years and only had 2 PIM to show for it. Time to take off your nostalgic glasses.


bluemoon737
Boston Bruins
Location: Portsmouth, NH
Joined: 04.19.2019

Jun 9 @ 6:49 AM ET
Bruins did not "git rid" of Chara. He wanted more playing time than they were willing to give him.

Chara was a major force with Was & NYI? His 24pts and +14 over those two seasons suggest otherwise. He played a total of 5 post-season games over the two years and only had 2 PIM to show for it. Time to take off your nostalgic glasses.



- Nasty_Duck

A rose by any other name...

Since that move, we have no defenseman with ballz other than McAvoy (who usually pays as much for hits he delivers as the receiving player) and Cliffy (who isn't really going to instill fear in anybody). When Miller was able to play, he brought that presense, but his knees were shot and he couldn't hang. We basically have a bunch of cream puffs on defense, skilled defenders...I'll give you that, but nothing for anyone to fear.
77emac77
Boston Bruins
Location: Duct tape cant fix stupid but it can muffle the sound, MA
Joined: 04.22.2010

Jun 9 @ 7:22 AM ET
A rose by any other name...

Since that move, we have no defenseman with ballz other than McAvoy (who usually pays as much for hits he delivers as the receiving player) and Cliffy (who isn't really going to instill fear in anybody). When Miller was able to play, he brought that presense, but his knees were shot and he couldn't hang. We basically have a bunch of cream puffs on defense, skilled defenders...I'll give you that, but nothing for anyone to fear.

- bluemoon737


like I said, the mistake was not replacing him
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jun 9 @ 1:12 PM ET
like I said, the mistake was not replacing him
- 77emac77


As usual under Cam Neely there is no plan or long term vision. Just as he was a player. (frank)ing loser. Falling short is in his DNA. Of course that gets passed down through the franchise.
Mahewman
Season Ticket Holder
Boston Bruins
Location: NH
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 9 @ 1:33 PM ET
As usual under Cam Neely there is no plan or long term vision. Just as he was a player. (frank)ing loser. Falling short is in his DNA. Of course that gets passed down through the franchise.
- glove_was_stuck


Tad bit harsh
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 9 @ 1:43 PM ET
As usual under Cam Neely there is no plan or long term vision. Just as he was a player. (frank)ing loser. Falling short is in his DNA. Of course that gets passed down through the franchise.
- glove_was_stuck


As an executive he has many failings.

But why you bring his playing days into this? He sacrificed his body to the team and re-defined what a power forward was. I don't get your hate on this aspect.
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 9 @ 1:44 PM ET
A rose by any other name...

Since that move, we have no defenseman with ballz other than McAvoy (who usually pays as much for hits he delivers as the receiving player) and Cliffy (who isn't really going to instill fear in anybody). When Miller was able to play, he brought that presense, but his knees were shot and he couldn't hang. We basically have a bunch of cream puffs on defense, skilled defenders...I'll give you that, but nothing for anyone to fear.

- bluemoon737


Chara was not the solution.
bluemoon737
Boston Bruins
Location: Portsmouth, NH
Joined: 04.19.2019

Jun 9 @ 3:09 PM ET
Chara was not the solution.
- Nasty_Duck

I would take Chara over any one of the "solutions" thus far (Zboril, Vaak, Tinordi, etc.). Again, not saying Chara didn't need to be replaced...the problem is he never has been.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jun 9 @ 3:23 PM ET
Tad bit harsh
- Mahewman


Why? Take your boyhood heroism out of it. Be objective. He never won anything as a pro. Couldn't beat Penguins or the Oil. He beat Montreal that one time. Neat. He won a lot of fights. Super.

Cam Neely does not win. It's not in his makeup.

As the President he is 1-4 in the final.
The bad trades and free agent signing he's signed off on As both Chiarelli's and Sweeny's boss are gross. The bad for outweighs the good.

If this organization actually cared about winning, he'd be gone. But he is perfect for them. Good but not good enough. A nice way of saying, loser.





bluemoon737
Boston Bruins
Location: Portsmouth, NH
Joined: 04.19.2019

Jun 9 @ 3:23 PM ET
So now we hear the "rest of the story" that during exit meetings Cassidy was told he would be back for the final year of his contract. This of course makes perfect sense since we know that he had a say in Dean being fired (his input was asked).
Neely's hand are all over this...I suspect it went down like this, "Don, it's Bruce or both of you...you decide".
bluemoon737
Boston Bruins
Location: Portsmouth, NH
Joined: 04.19.2019

Jun 9 @ 3:28 PM ET
And apparently Sweeney went to Cassidy's home to tell him he was fired...wow, just WOW!
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jun 9 @ 3:34 PM ET
As an executive he has many failings.

But why you bring his playing days into this? He sacrificed his body to the team and re-defined what a power forward was. I don't get your hate on this aspect.

- Nasty_Duck


Because it translates. Good enough to fall short but not good enough to win it all.
Mahewman
Season Ticket Holder
Boston Bruins
Location: NH
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 9 @ 4:32 PM ET
Why? Take your boyhood heroism out of it. Be objective. He never won anything as a pro. Couldn't beat Penguins or the Oil. He beat Montreal that one time. Neat. He won a lot of fights. Super.

Cam Neely does not win. It's not in his makeup.

As the President he is 1-4 in the final.
The bad trades and free agent signing he's signed off on As both Chiarelli's and Sweeny's boss are gross. The bad for outweighs the good.

If this organization actually cared about winning, he'd be gone. But he is perfect for them. Good but not good enough. A nice way of saying, loser.

- glove_was_stuck


I have zero boyhood heroism for Cam Neely. I was probably 7 when he had to retire so I remember zero of his playing career. Can you be objective behind your blind hatred for Sweeney and Neely?

I am pretty disgusted by the firing of Cassidy but to call a hockey hall of famer a loser because they never won a championship is stupid. Does Jarome Iginla have loser in his blood? Is he a loser and Patrick Maroon is the greatest winner of all time?

Cam Neely as president has maintained plenty of winning since he took over. They have had the 2nd most wins in that span. They have had the 2nd most playoff wins in that span. They been to three cup finals.

He has arguably been at the helm of the most successful era in Bruins history. But yeah. He’s a loser. If you think the bad outweighs the good. We will never see eye to eye on many things
Tachmo
Boston Bruins
Location: Canada, SK
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 9 @ 4:36 PM ET
Why? Take your boyhood heroism out of it. Be objective. He never won anything as a pro. Couldn't beat Penguins or the Oil. He beat Montreal that one time. Neat. He won a lot of fights. Super.

Cam Neely does not win. It's not in his makeup.

As the President he is 1-4 in the final.
The bad trades and free agent signing he's signed off on As both Chiarelli's and Sweeny's boss are gross. The bad for outweighs the good.

If this organization actually cared about winning, he'd be gone. But he is perfect for them. Good but not good enough. A nice way of saying, loser.

- glove_was_stuck


ok this is way off base lol.
Neely was a specimen as a player one of the greatest power forwards ever. Cmon dude he scored 50 in 50 and would kick ass. I’m not accepting that BS.

Terrible front office man, you got that right. I have no idea how he let this team get so soft. It doesn’t make any sense.
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