I like the thought process, add fiala or marcus foligno....

I would almost be surprised if they add a forward.
I get the idea cody F neck roll eakin is still part of the vibes community...
- Boss34

Can't see us adding there only goalie and a top forward with the main piece being Portillo... thats a dream in itself

Gibson could be a risky move, numbers trending down big time since someone compared him to vaslevsky.

I would think anahiem would be willing to mk ove that contract right?

Are they sold on him retiring in Anaheim?

MAF would sell tickets and smile a lot ...
- Boss34

It's been said that he "wants to win" and doesn't want to endure a rebuild. I believe Verbeek is going to try and move him. But that contract is bad for the past 3 years of his play. It's also a bad sign for Levi and UPL. I know we jest around here about "oh no but UPL/Levi/Portillo", but committing 5 more years to a guy trending in the wrong direction isn't the move I'd like to see intelligent people and the people leading the team I love, make.

It's been said that he "wants to win" and doesn't want to endure a rebuild. I believe Verbeek is going to try and move him. But that contract is bad for the past 3 years of his play. It's also a bad sign for Levi and UPL. I know we jest around here about "oh no but UPL/Levi/Portillo", but committing 5 more years to a guy trending in the wrong direction isn't the move I'd like to see intelligent people and the people leading the team I love, make.
- TheSabresTaco

John Quick was trending down for 3 years.... On bad teams...... You just suggested trading for him after 1 good eason at 36 years old

Gibson is 8 years younger

Despite my fantasy hockey rankings, john gibson has been compared to vaslevsky.

*The comparer was probably inebriated though
- Boss34

You can't put using a Fantasy Hockey draft aside for the basis of your opinion, it is disingenuous at best.

Shut your mouth until you compare Vasi and Gibson stars for several years while both teams were good.
Of course having a stud defense in front of Vasi does help him at all right.

Nice Troll Job, it is all that you do though

Bit of a reach there...unless you only look at the last 3 seasons.

Ullmark's highest SV% when he played 20+ games is .917...that's 5 seasons ( 2 seasons he played 20 gms on the mark)

Gibson has 4 seasons in which he played at least 35 games and had .917 SV% with 3 of them over .920

His play doesn't scare me, his contract with 5 years at $6.4 remaining does.
Cut his contract to 3 years at $5.0 like Ullmark...I'll bet all day long on Ginson.
- IonSabres

The stats I'm looking at are individualistic and not based on sv%, GAA and the like. Base stats are heavily influenced by surrounding play.

When it came to just individual performances, balancing all types of danger chances, Ullmark and Gibson were very comparable last season.

John Quick was trending down for 3 years.... On bad teams...... You just suggested trading for him after 1 good eason at 36 years old

Gibson is 8 years younger
- DirtyDan

Low cost of acquistion
One year contract
Had a great season recently

none of those attributes could be said about John Gibson

Also, for the past three years, Quick (individually) has been better than all of our goalies except 20-21 Ullmark during that span. He had an atrocious 18-19. So him "tending down" is a false narrative.

Low cost of acquistion
One year contract
Had a great season recently

none of those attributes could be said about John Gibson
- TheSabresTaco

Imagine not wanting Gibson cause of 3 .904 seasons then suggest Quick after hes had 2 of the last 4 under .900

That wasnt the comparison.


Player vs player

Drunk vs sober posters.

Vaslevsky has since proven big brain small red hat wrong.
- Boss34

Come on midget hands, post the friggin numbers by season...don't forget to adjust for age & games played for accuracy
'15-'16 Gibson
'16-'17 both
'17-'18 both
'18-'19 Vasi

Hint: go to Hockey-Reference.com not MyFriendsJiltedDaughtersFantasyRankings.com.

Imagine not wanting Gibson cause of 3 .904 seasons then suggest Quick after hes had 2 of the last 4 under .900
- DirtyDan

You seem to think that I'm using sv% to make these arguments. I haven't done so a single time.

sv% is heavily influenced by play in front.

I'm using Goals Above Replacement, Standing Points Above Replacement and Wins Above Replacement.

These stats, most so by SPAR, puts all goalies on an equal playing field and doesn't take into consideration the players in front of them. These stats judge them by how they handle low, medium and high danger opportunities.

So no, sv% is mostly irrelevant, here.

Low cost of acquistion
One year contract
Had a great season recently

none of those attributes could be said about John Gibson
- TheSabresTaco

Gibson should be low cost given what you've said..

that contract might be poop but the first 3 years we have nearly infinite cap

.904 is not far from a .910

No goalie you've listed can handle the amount of games Gib can

Riddle me this tacoman

Why would the biggest brain on here (unlceionlightning) think gibson was as good as vaslevsky?

Doesnt make sense
- Boss34

Come on Richard wad, put your money up you big wussy

You seem to think that I'm using sv% to make these arguments. I haven't done so a single time.

sv% is heavily influenced by play in front.
- TheSabresTaco

Okay then share the link.. share these stats your using

It's been said that he "wants to win" and doesn't want to endure a rebuild. I believe Verbeek is going to try and move him. But that contract is bad for the past 3 years of his play. It's also a bad sign for Levi and UPL. I know we jest around here about "oh no but UPL/Levi/Portillo", but committing 5 more years to a guy trending in the wrong direction isn't the move I'd like to see intelligent people and the people leading the team I love, make.
- TheSabresTaco

Excellent post 🌮

Sabres scorn us ...

Again and again


Long term the guys like dahlin and tage

He only has one year left before becoming a UFA.

That is a factor.
- kingcong39

What is the 2nd most likely contract?

Gibson should be low cost given what you've said..

that contract might be poop but the first 3 years we have nearly infinite cap

.904 is not far from a .910

No goalie you've listed can handle the amount of games Gib can
- DirtyDan

Kuemper and Fleury can't? Quick can't?

We need a goalie because of the amount of games he can handle?

Okay then share the link.. share these stats your using
- DirtyDan

https://evolving-hockey.c...20%22%2C%2220182019%22%5D

Kuemper and Fleury can't? Quick can't?

We need a goalie because of the amount of games he can handle?
- TheSabresTaco

Yeah I would like someone who is going to stay healthy and play more than 25 games.

I doubt we get either but they very well could

https://evolving-hockey.c...20%22%2C%2220182019%22%5D
- TheSabresTaco

You pay to look at goalie stats...

Excellent post 🌮

Sabres scorn us ...

Again and again


Long term the guys like dahlin and tage
- Boss34

(frank) me for coming back to the poison well and hoping to come back feeling good

You pay to look at goalie stats...
- DirtyDan

I pay $5 a month (another 5 for additional stats) to know what I'm talking about so I don't need to use save percentage to determine whether a goalie is good at his job.

Not even close, Miller has waaay better numbers than Barrasso.
- lacaprup

different era

84-85 league leaders in GAA



1. Tom Barrasso • BUF 2.67
2. Pat Riggin • WSH 2.98
3. Pelle Lindbergh • PHI 3.02
4. Steve Penney • MTL 3.09
5. Bob Sauve • BUF 3.23
6. Warren Skorodenski • CBH 3.23
7. Rick Wamsley • STL 3.27
8. Doug Keans • BOS 3.29
9. Andy Moog • EDM 3.30
10. Mario Gosselin • QUE 3.31


84-85 league leaders in save percentage


1. Warren Skorodenski • CBH .903
2. Pelle Lindbergh • PHI .899
3. Andy Moog • EDM .895
4. Reggie Lemelin • CGY .888
5. Mike Liut • 2TM .888
6. Tom Barrasso • BUF .887
7. Pat Riggin • WSH .886
8. Kelly Hrudey • NYI .886
9. Rick Wamsley • STL .885
10. Grant Fuhr* • EDM .885

This site is free though. If you go through the effort to search for a conclusion, you will see that Gibson has been below decent.

https://www.naturalstattr...m/playerteams.php?stdoi=g

I pay $5 a month (another 5 for additional stats) to know what I'm talking about so I don't need to use save percentage to determine whether a goalie is good at his job.
- TheSabresTaco

I mean the guys you said were better had better sv % it really isn't rocket science... you don't need GAR and WAR and whatever other acronym to know whos better

I mean the guys you said were better had better sv % it really isn't rocket science... you don't need GAR and WAR and whatever other acronym to know whos better

- DirtyDan

aight

aight
- TheSabresTaco

28 year old goalie on the downside of his career yet Quick.... 36..... is only getting better.. No room for a 28 year old to have better numbers in the next 8 years... Will only get worse