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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 7 @ 5:00 PM ET
But also much harder to trade. Agree that moving OEL > Myers, because that contract.... but if OEL can capably slide over to the left side, that might make moving Myers more manageable. Mmmmm
- NewYorkNuck


OEL's difficulty being moved has to do with him blocking trades. I'd say one is not significantly more difficult to move than the other. Replacing on the other hand is...
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 7 @ 5:07 PM ET

Getting anything for Myers would be a bonus at this stage.
Ive always liked Myers and appreciated what he brings to the team (size, reach, chaos). Glad he had a bounce back year. But we need to free up some cap space.

- dbot

Cap space for? Worse defenders? More expensive older defenders?

Younger defenders that next contracts will be as much and last longer?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 7 @ 5:08 PM ET
I don't give a (frank) what you were saying. I'm saying I'd rather have Zacha as a 3C than Dikinson.
- NewYorkNuck

Then don't comment. I mean do you think I give a flying (frank) if you want Zacha over Richardinson. Not in the slightest.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 7 @ 5:18 PM ET
But also much harder to trade. Agree that moving OEL > Myers, because that contract.... but if OEL can capably slide over to the left side, that might make moving Myers more manageable. Mmmmm
- NewYorkNuck


This.

Of course it would be preferable to move OEL and his contract vs Myers, but I think that's unlikely.

dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 7 @ 5:21 PM ET
OEL's difficulty being moved has to do with him blocking trades. I'd say one is not significantly more difficult to move than the other. Replacing on the other hand is...
- boonerbuck


OEL's difficulty being moved has to do with the length of his contract imo.
Myers is signed for 2 seasons @ 6m
OEL is signed for 5 @ 7.2m

Retain some salary and move Myers for whatever.

dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 7 @ 5:22 PM ET
Cap space for? Worse defenders? More expensive older defenders?

Younger defenders that next contracts will be as much and last longer?

- manvanfan


Ideally younger defenders, with size/grit to pair with Rathbone.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 7 @ 5:29 PM ET
OEL's difficulty being moved has to do with the length of his contract imo.
Myers is signed for 2 seasons @ 6m
OEL is signed for 5 @ 7.2m

Retain some salary and move Myers for whatever.

- dbot


His contract is moot if he doesnt want to be moved and he doesnt...
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 7 @ 5:31 PM ET
Ideally younger defenders, with size/grit to pair with Rathbone.
- dbot

When I say younger, I mean more younger than Myers but still later 20s. Probably get a couple seasons before they turn to poop.

I would like to start to see some guys tried on their off sides more. Ones that probably can skate better or have a longer stick defensively. Not someone like Schenn

dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 7 @ 5:33 PM ET
His contract is moot if he doesnt want to be moved and he doesnt...
- boonerbuck


So we agree that moving Myers is easier then...
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 7 @ 5:35 PM ET
When I say younger, I mean more younger than Myers but still later 20s. Probably get a couple seasons before they turn to poop.

I would like to start to see some guys tried on their off sides more. Ones that probably can skate better or have a longer stick defensively. Not someone like Schenn

- manvanfan


Ilya Lyubushkin ?

Colin Miller and Josh Manson are UFAs and around Myers age.
If you could offload Myers and sign either or to a 2 year contract id consider it.
But i'm sure they're both looking for longer term.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 7 @ 5:35 PM ET
So we agree that moving Myers is easier then...
- dbot


Maybe but with only 2 years at 6mil... best to keep him. Trade Boeser instead...
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jun 7 @ 5:35 PM ET
OEL's difficulty being moved has to do with the length of his contract imo.
Myers is signed for 2 seasons @ 6m
OEL is signed for 5

- dbot[/b] @ 7.2m

Retain some salary and move Myers for whatever.


Thanks Benning
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Jun 7 @ 5:37 PM ET
What are people's thoughts on trying to sign Paul Stastny for a year. He'd be a big upgrade on Dikinson.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 7 @ 5:40 PM ET
Maybe but with only 2 years at 6mil... best to keep him. Trade Boeser instead...
- boonerbuck


I'd like to see:

Resign Boeser, Lammikko
Trade JTM
Trade Myers
Trade Garland/Pearson.

Sign Lybushkin/Maata
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 7 @ 5:44 PM ET
What are people's thoughts on trying to sign Paul Stastny for a year. He'd be a big upgrade on Dikinson.
- micah555


Nick Paul >
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 7 @ 5:45 PM ET
What are people's thoughts on trying to sign Paul Stastny for a year. He'd be a big upgrade on Dikinson.
- micah555

Canucks rebuilding?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 7 @ 5:47 PM ET
Ilya Lyubushkin ?

Colin Miller and Josh Manson are UFAs and around Myers age.
If you could offload Myers and sign either or to a 2 year contract id consider it.
But i'm sure they're both looking for longer term.

- dbot

Almost out of Myers contract, not real sense to get into a different one that continues on longer. Unless they are actually going to upgrade with Letang or Klingberg.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 7 @ 5:52 PM ET
/Cam Robinson/
@Hockey_Robinson
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4m
I really like the Nils Åman signing for the Canucks.


6'2, rangy centre with legit speed and smarts. Bit of a late bloomer, but has faired well in a 3rd line SHL role the last couple of years.

Sneaky release

https://www.nhl.com/canuc...ith-nils-aman/c-334530230

The 6'2", 185-pound forward was originally drafted by the Colorado Avalanche in the sixth round, 167th overall in the 2020 NHL Entry Draft.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 7 @ 6:07 PM ET
I see the Canucks as being where Colorado was when they were offloading O'Reilly and Duchene. We'll get a bit younger and come out on top in the end.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 7 @ 6:19 PM ET
I see the Canucks as being where Colorado was when they were offloading O'Reilly and Duchene. We'll get a bit younger and come out on top in the end.
- Retinalz


If O'reily is JTM, who is Duchene in this scenario?
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 7 @ 6:21 PM ET
OEL's difficulty being moved has to do with the length of his contract imo.
Myers is signed for 2 seasons @ 6m
OEL is signed for 5 @ 7.2m

Retain some salary and move Myers for whatever.

- dbot


NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 7 @ 6:21 PM ET
If O'reily is JTM, who is Duchene in this scenario?
- dbot


Boeser
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 7 @ 6:25 PM ET
Boeser
- NewYorkNuck


It would be a mistake to move Boeser. Could you imagine how smug the don would be?
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 7 @ 6:29 PM ET
It would be a mistake to move Boeser. Could you imagine how smug the don would be?
- 1970vintage



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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 7 @ 6:30 PM ET
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