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Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Jun 3 @ 5:50 PM ET
oof
- kicksave856

a swwwwwiing and a miss on that one.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Laziness is nothing more than the habit of resting before you get tired., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 3 @ 5:54 PM ET
Le directeur de la Centrale de recrutement de la LNH Dan Marr indique que l'espoir Ivan Miroschnichenko, qui a combattu la maladie de Hodgkin, a terminé ses traitements, a le feu vert pour s'entraîner et s'enligne pour être prêt à jouer la saison prochaine.

MAGodin

- Symba007



is that a habs prospect..?
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jun 3 @ 5:57 PM ET
is that a habs prospect..?
- Pat1993

He will be after you select him foa.
mr.peanut
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jun 3 @ 6:02 PM ET
stop giving false hopes
- Pat1993

why are you so mean to me?
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Laziness is nothing more than the habit of resting before you get tired., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 3 @ 6:02 PM ET
He will be after you select him foa.
- TurdFergeson



yeah, I don't think so lol
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Laziness is nothing more than the habit of resting before you get tired., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 3 @ 6:04 PM ET
why are you so mean to me?
- mr.peanut



I don't think we have to go through this again, I've never understood your sense of "humor", and I simply don't like you, it is what it is.
mr.peanut
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jun 3 @ 6:05 PM ET
I don't think we have to go through this again, I've never understood your sense of "humor", and I simply don't like you, it is what it is.
- Pat1993

oh that's all that's needed? Great
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: maybe one day I'll be as wise as you are Pete., ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jun 3 @ 6:06 PM ET
It is stupid to ask questions and not just accept wat other people say? The article doesnt state the 8 players were sued, just Hockey Canada.

If they are guilty they should be punished however Im not going to assume guilt because someone makes an accusation. Innocent until proven guilty. At the end of the day everybody lies. I trust only facts. If I misread something I will accept that

- xShoot4WarAmpsx



Um, if I may?

There must have been plenty of facts presented to Hockey Canada.

They gave this lady money, albeit 1 dollar or millions of dollars to shut her up..

Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Laziness is nothing more than the habit of resting before you get tired., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 3 @ 6:07 PM ET
oh that's all that's needed? Great
- mr.peanut


meh, I don't feel like explaining myself further, I'm not expecting you to understand anyway so it would be totally pointless.
mr.peanut
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jun 3 @ 6:11 PM ET
meh, I don't feel like explaining myself further, I'm not expecting you to understand anyway so it would be totally pointless.
- Pat1993

I don't care why (because i know the day it started). Just seems like you attempt to ignore me at all the time, even when i give you a genuine answer to a hockey question, but take shots at me whenever my name comes up.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 3 @ 6:17 PM ET
I don't care why (because i know the day it started). Just seems like you attempt to ignore me at all the time, even when i give you a genuine answer to a hockey question, but take shots at me whenever my name comes up.
- mr.peanut


I approve of this behaviour.

Carry on.
mr.peanut
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jun 3 @ 6:26 PM ET
I approve of this behaviour.

Carry on.

- Mashadar

So does Hockey Canada
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 3 @ 6:26 PM ET
and what if their man is Logan Cooley?
trade down?
Ovation
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 10.27.2006

Jun 3 @ 6:27 PM ET
One thing to remember is the Canadian legal system, while broadly similar, is not identical to the US system, so making presumptions based on the latter will inevitably lead to erroneous conclusions.

Beyond that, history clearly shows, in each system, that women who formally accuse men in cases of rape or similar sexual assault crimes are often treated in ways, by both the courts and the media, accusers of other crimes are not. Consequently, it is hardly surprising that few accusations, relative to the number of assaults, are made (this is also true in many other assault cases, sexual or otherwise).

Seeking legal remedy in civil court has not always been an option, but is hardly a dishonourable one. Moreover, blaming the woman for "not naming names" is a misdirected complaint. Reporters covering the story have pushed the issue to the forefront--settlements out of court (of any type of accusation) almost always include non-disclosure agreements. Third parties (like reporters) are not bound by them, but the parties implicated in the settlement are, with serious legal penalties if violated.

Is a settlement ironclad proof of guilt? Certainly not. However, it is not a presumptive case of extortion either, as some online commentary has suggested. In the end, speculation about who is/isn't "guilty" is pointless in the absence of further information. Historical precedence provides ample motivation to avoid open court for the accuser (the record on this point is clear). Precedence also demonstrates the odds of a less problematic outcome for the accused are also found in settlements, far more often than not. And even if it had gone to public, criminal trial, the odds of a "correct" outcome (conviction of accused if guilty, acquittal if innocent) would not be guaranteed either. Exceedingly few cases that go to court go exactly as they "should" in this regard.

The legal system, like life, is messy (though it aims at clarity). To expect otherwise is, at best, naive.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Laziness is nothing more than the habit of resting before you get tired., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 3 @ 6:30 PM ET
I don't care why (because i know the day it started). Just seems like you attempt to ignore me at all the time, even when i give you a genuine answer to a hockey question, but take shots at me whenever my name comes up.
- mr.peanut


I just find most of your posts are dumb and unfunny, and I don't get why you're here.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Jun 3 @ 7:00 PM ET
I don't want to get into this poopshow of a conversation, because it is downright (frank)ing stupid, but...

How any times have accusation been proven to be false rather than true?

Picking a few false ones as your standard says all we need to know about your opinion.

- Mashadar



Actually the only thing we can tell from these series of posts is that you're willing to paint someone who isn't a robot as a biggot because they're not out with a pitchfork and a burning brand. Mashadar....good name for you.
mr.peanut
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jun 3 @ 7:31 PM ET
I just find most of your posts are dumb and unfunny, and I don't get why you're here.
- Pat1993

Oh alright.

Tho I know the shield will one day reunite

*puts out fist*
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 3 @ 7:47 PM ET
Actually the only thing we can tell from these series of posts is that you're willing to paint someone who isn't a robot as a biggot because they're not out with a pitchfork and a burning brand. Mashadar....good name for you.
- lacaprup


Actually, what I am saying is given there is a settlement, there has to be some form of validity to the claims and the fact a woman would rather not be traumatized again and again for the rest of her life (by the media focus, by the life of the internet, by people who will dox her), might be a factor as to why the resolution came as it did.

You do not get large settlements of this magnitude just on hearsay.

Or we can just take your wild approach by automatically implicating she must be lying.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 3 @ 7:48 PM ET
I just find most of your posts are dumb and unfunny, and I don't get why you're here.
- Pat1993


In fairness, you can say that about everyone here.

But I support you.

Carry on.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 3 @ 7:52 PM ET
Price wins the Masterton, and even says tks in French!
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 3 @ 7:55 PM ET
Actually the only thing we can tell from these series of posts is that you're willing to paint someone who isn't a robot as a biggot because they're not out with a pitchfork and a burning brand. Mashadar....good name for you.
- lacaprup


Don't be raYciss. Believe all wahmyn.
Quetzalcoatl
Location: Fuck eklund, USA
Joined: 12.02.2009

Jun 3 @ 7:56 PM ET
Actually, what I am saying is given there is a settlement, there has to be some form of validity to the claims and the fact a woman would rather not be traumatized again and again for the rest of her life (by the media focus, by the life of the internet, by people who will dox her), might be a factor as to why the resolution came as it did.

You do not get large settlements of this magnitude just on hearsay.

Or we can just take your wild approach by automatically implicating she must be lying.

- Mashadar


Bullpoop. I literally hope this happens to you one day.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 3 @ 7:57 PM ET
Bullpoop. I literally hope this happens to you one day.
- Quetzalcoatl


Sounds to me like you are the kind of person that will be dealing with this, rather than me.
Quetzalcoatl
Location: Fuck eklund, USA
Joined: 12.02.2009

Jun 3 @ 8:00 PM ET
Sounds to me like you are the kind of person that will be dealing with this, rather than me.
- Mashadar


Right, because you have no life and no chance of any sexual encounters of any type.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 3 @ 8:01 PM ET
Right, because you have no life and no chance of any sexual encounters of any type.
- Quetzalcoatl


Sounds like you are speaking from personal experience.




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