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Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jun 3 @ 9:07 PM ET
Mason Poolman (Tuckers brother), Jackson Nieuwendyk, Joshua Niedermayer a couple of familiar names. I really hope VAN's scouts are keeping a close eye on this team.

One ex Vee I would like the Canucks get is Tyson Jost from Minnesota

https://www.eliteprospect.../player/148111/tyson-jost

- VanHockeyGuy

Mike Richters kid on that team isnt he?
sxqhfeh
Joined: 10.18.2016

Jun 4 @ 3:06 AM ET
Exactly. They don’t want Miller

Edit/ I can’t wait for fanboy tears when they are disappointed with the miller return. A lot of delusion in this market place. Tear pies anyone? 🥰 🤤

- CanuckDon


Miller not worth that, it must be Hughes or Pettersson
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 4 @ 3:32 AM ET
Exactly. They don’t want Miller

Edit/ I can’t wait for fanboy tears when they are disappointed with the miller return. A lot of delusion in this market place. Tear pies anyone? 🥰 🤤

- CanuckDon

The Miller trade return proposals I’m seeing are insane. He’s a one year rental and it’s harder to sell during the summer. Some people are going to be disappointed
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 4 @ 3:49 AM ET
The Miller trade return proposals I’m seeing are insane. He’s a one year rental and it’s harder to sell during the summer. Some people are going to be disappointed
- Nucker101


If he’s traded this off season, it’s not exactly a rental.
It’s one year on a cheap contract for a hard nosed C. 100 pts.

I’m not expecting a kings ransom, but he’ll get a good haul I think.
More than Kes.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 4 @ 4:02 AM ET
If he’s traded this off season, it’s not exactly a rental.
It’s one year on a cheap contract for a hard nosed C. 100 pts.

I’m not expecting a kings ransom, but he’ll get a good haul I think.
More than Kes.

- dbot

yeah, somewhere in between these dreamland proposals and what Kesler got is realistic.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 4 @ 4:23 AM ET
yeah, somewhere in between these dreamland proposals and what Kesler got is realistic.
- Nucker101


What’s with the creepy avatar bro?
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 4 @ 4:52 AM ET
If he’s traded this off season, it’s not exactly a rental.
It’s one year on a cheap contract for a hard nosed C. 100 pts.

I’m not expecting a kings ransom, but he’ll get a good haul I think.
More than Kes.

- dbot


It's going to be a good return. It's not going to be an Earth shattering trade.

Hopefully there are a few teams bidding to drive up prices.
Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

Jun 4 @ 9:54 AM ET
It's going to be a good return. It's not going to be an Earth shattering trade.

Hopefully there are a few teams bidding to drive up prices.

- NewYorkNuck


Smith Zacha 2nd Miller 15th isn't brutal at all
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 4 @ 10:04 AM ET
Exactly. They don’t want Miller

Edit/ I can’t wait for fanboy tears when they are disappointed with the miller return. A lot of delusion in this market place. Tear pies anyone? 🥰 🤤

- CanuckDon

Where is Miller going?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 4 @ 10:05 AM ET
The Miller trade return proposals I’m seeing are insane. He’s a one year rental and it’s harder to sell during the summer. Some people are going to be disappointed
- Nucker101

Miller will be in a Canuck uni at seasons start. As it should be.

Love the avi by the way.

#Beta

NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 4 @ 10:10 AM ET
Smith Zacha 2nd Miller 15th isn't brutal at all
- Jkuzzi


"JT Miller and 15th overall for 2nd overall, Paval Zacha, Ty Smith and Damon Severson."

I think that's a pretty decent haul for the Canucks. I would think/assume they try to tack on Richardinson in the trade, just to balance the money and contracts out.

They get a 27/28 year old RHD, young but small LHD, a 3rd line center with size that could move up the lineup on the wing, and the 2nd overall pick to add a top player (albeit in a weaker draft) to the prospect pool. If you get rid of Myers somehow, you're looking at:

Hughes / Severson
OEL / Smith
Dermott / Schenn
Rathbone, Burroughs, Hunt, Keeper, Poolman

Better than it was.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 4 @ 10:37 AM ET
yeah, somewhere in between these dreamland proposals and what Kesler got is realistic.
- Nucker101


If VAN can't come to terms with Millers camp they will allow potential suitors to negotiate an extension with Millers agents.

Kesler had complete control over his destination and handcuffed the team. Millers situation the is the opposite. Your comparison and value is ridiculous.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 4 @ 10:46 AM ET
"JT Miller and 15th overall for 2nd overall, Paval Zacha, Ty Smith and Damon Severson."

I think that's a pretty decent haul for the Canucks. I would think/assume they try to tack on Richardinson in the trade, just to balance the money and contracts out.

They get a 27/28 year old RHD, young but small LHD, a 3rd line center with size that could move up the lineup on the wing, and the 2nd overall pick to add a top player (albeit in a weaker draft) to the prospect pool. If you get rid of Myers somehow, you're looking at:

Hughes / Severson
OEL / Smith
Dermott / Schenn
Rathbone, Burroughs, Hunt, Keeper, Poolman

Better than it was.

- NewYorkNuck

NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 4 @ 10:49 AM ET

- manvanfan


?

Severson > Myers, plus the trickle down effect from there..

Team is smaller, but quicker and better at transitioning the puck, which is what Allvin and Ruthy have talked about.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 4 @ 11:12 AM ET
?

Severson > Myers, plus the trickle down effect from there..

Team is smaller, but quicker and better at transitioning the puck, which is what Allvin and Ruthy have talked about.

- NewYorkNuck

Rutherford talked about defending*** less on Demko, not more.

More sandpaper as well.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 4 @ 11:31 AM ET
Byron Bader
@ByronMBader

Factoring in age, pre-dy prod. and dy prod., Slafkovsky will be one of the lowest "equivalency" Fs drafted in the top 5 in the past 30 yrs.

Last time we saw this was Ladd (2004) and Pouliot (2005).

I am extremely curious how this turns out in 10 yrs, good or bad.

I wonder who risks it.

Mtl go with Kotkaniemi but with 1st overall this time?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 4 @ 11:31 AM ET
If he’s traded this off season, it’s not exactly a rental.
It’s one year on a cheap contract for a hard nosed C. 100 pts.

I’m not expecting a kings ransom, but he’ll get a good haul I think.
More than Kes.

- dbot


This is an interesting narrative. Do you suppose you think of him as “hard nosed” because he looks grumpy all the time?

Personally, I don’t see him that way. He’s no Ryan O’Reilly. I also doubt he flirts with 100pts again.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 4 @ 11:36 AM ET
Rutherford talked about defending*** less on Demko, not more.

More sandpaper as well.

- manvanfan


F*ck yeah.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 4 @ 11:39 AM ET
I’m undecided, are the Rangers playing that good, or, is Tampa playing that bad after a ten day layoff?

K’Andre Miller looks good. Great pick for them. Can’t believe Hextall took Jay O’Brien instead of K’Andre Miller….IDIOT!!
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 4 @ 11:41 AM ET
Rutherford talked about defending*** less on Demko, not more.

More sandpaper as well.

- manvanfan

The whole thing needs a do-over and it starts with trading JT Miller.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 4 @ 11:43 AM ET
I’m undecided, are the Rangers playing that good, or, is Tampa playing that bad after a ten day layoff?

K’Andre Miller looks good. Great pick for them. Can’t believe Hextall took Jay O’Brien instead of K’Andre Miller….IDIOT!!

- LeftCoaster


To me NYR look hungrier and faster, clearly younger, They've put together a nice team.

They would be deadly if they picked up Miller on a Sbiza type deal like Nucker suggests.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 4 @ 11:47 AM ET
To me NYR look hungrier and faster, clearly younger, They've put together a nice team.

They would be deadly if they picked up Miller on a Sbiza type deal like Nucker suggests.

- VanHockeyGuy

Agree, they look like they want it bad. Tampa on the other hand looking tired and old’ish.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 4 @ 11:51 AM ET
Agree, they look like they want it bad. Tampa on the other hand looking tired and old’ish.
- LeftCoaster


It's still not over but I like the Rangers game. I'm sure JR PA & Co are looking how their built.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 4 @ 11:53 AM ET
The whole thing needs a do-over and it starts with trading JT Miller.
- LeftCoaster


It starts with trading a player they are at loathe to for them to take the next step.

We all may be surprised.


NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 4 @ 12:01 PM ET
Rutherford talked about defending*** less on Demko, not more.

More sandpaper as well.

- manvanfan


Depending?

Easier to depend on him less when the puck isn't in your zone

But yes, they need more sandpaper. Myers isn't really sandpaper, though. OEL still just a dumb trade
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